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Re: Best guess when recalls could happen

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What date is the August bid?
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straight2thepoint wrote: Sat Jul 24, 2021 8:48 pm What date is the August bid?
We are all eager to know !
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straight2thepoint wrote: Sat Jul 24, 2021 8:48 pm What date is the August bid?
I keep hearing August 15 but we still don’t have our August flying schedules yet, so that gives you an idea of how on time things have been lately due to the coof. :lol:
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straight2thepoint wrote: Sat Jul 24, 2021 8:48 pm What date is the August bid?
Normally Aug 15. Closes Aug 30. Results by Sept 14. It is an entirely manual process.

Then 2022 vacation bid roster/slots are published in September based on equipment bid results.
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rudder wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 5:27 am
straight2thepoint wrote: Sat Jul 24, 2021 8:48 pm What date is the August bid?
Normally Aug 15. Closes Aug 30. Results by Sept 14. It is an entirely manual process.

Then 2022 vacation bid roster/slots are published in September based on equipment bid results.
Also supposed to be an LOU coming out….
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KenoraPilot wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:43 am
Also supposed to be an LOU coming out….
What would the LOU imply?
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the-minister31 wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 9:39 am
KenoraPilot wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:43 am
Also supposed to be an LOU coming out….
What would the LOU imply?
A stated agreement of understanding between the ALPA and Jazz.
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notwhoyouthinkIam wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:18 am
the-minister31 wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 9:39 am
KenoraPilot wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:43 am
Also supposed to be an LOU coming out….
What would the LOU imply?
A stated agreement of understanding between the ALPA and Jazz.
Yeah but what would that LOU be about? The position bid?
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the-minister31 wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 11:08 am
notwhoyouthinkIam wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:18 am
the-minister31 wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 9:39 am

What would the LOU imply?
A stated agreement of understanding between the ALPA and Jazz.
Yeah but what would that LOU be about? The position bid?
Wouldn't it be ironic if it was announced that the LOU was about starting a cargo division with the soon to be retired D8-300s....at current wages -10% :wink:
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Kosiw wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 3:04 pm
the-minister31 wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 11:08 am
notwhoyouthinkIam wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:18 am

A stated agreement of understanding between the ALPA and Jazz.
Yeah but what would that LOU be about? The position bid?
Wouldn't it be ironic if it was announced that the LOU was about starting a cargo division with the soon to be retired D8-300s....at current wages -10% :wink:
Except that would not pass lol
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flyingcanuck wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 3:35 pm
Kosiw wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 3:04 pm
the-minister31 wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 11:08 am

Yeah but what would that LOU be about? The position bid?
Wouldn't it be ironic if it was announced that the LOU was about starting a cargo division with the soon to be retired D8-300s....at current wages -10% :wink:
Except that would not pass lol
Yeah, we're talking ALPA, not ACPA.
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Kosiw wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 3:04 pm
the-minister31 wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 11:08 am
notwhoyouthinkIam wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:18 am

A stated agreement of understanding between the ALPA and Jazz.
Yeah but what would that LOU be about? The position bid?
Wouldn't it be ironic if it was announced that the LOU was about starting a cargo division with the soon to be retired D8-300s....at current wages -10% :wink:
Thankfully Jazz pilots have a bit more of a backbone than AC pilots and it would likely not pass.
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the-minister31 wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 11:08 am
Yeah but what would that LOU be about? The position bid?
The LOU will address the approval that the MEC gave Jazz to block pilots up to 90 hours in August with pilots on layoff.

The LOU may replace earlier LOU’s and address hours of service for September and onwards.

The LOU may address further return-to-payroll protocol for Jazz pilots still on layoff.

The LOU may address the mechanics of Bid 2021-01 and the bidding rights of pilots still on layoff.
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rudder wrote: Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:16 am
the-minister31 wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 11:08 am
Yeah but what would that LOU be about? The position bid?
The LOU will address the approval that the MEC gave Jazz to block pilots up to 90 hours in August with pilots on layoff.

The LOU may replace earlier LOU’s and address hours of service for September and onwards.

The LOU may address further return-to-payroll protocol for Jazz pilots still on layoff.

The LOU may address the mechanics of Bid 2021-01 and the bidding rights of pilots still on layoff.
Excellent news ! Thank you for that input !
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rudder wrote: Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:16 am
the-minister31 wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 11:08 am
Yeah but what would that LOU be about? The position bid?
The LOU will address the approval that the MEC gave Jazz to block pilots up to 90 hours in August with pilots on layoff.
Cries in Air Canada**

As our own elected reps fly overtime pushing 100 hours.
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acpaleaks wrote: Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:54 am
rudder wrote: Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:16 am
the-minister31 wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 11:08 am
Yeah but what would that LOU be about? The position bid?
The LOU will address the approval that the MEC gave Jazz to block pilots up to 90 hours in August with pilots on layoff.
Cries in Air Canada**

As our own elected reps fly overtime pushing 100 hours.
This was (apparently) a quid pro quo.

Still waiting to hear how many layoffs got an early recall in exchange for covering all of the flying assigned by AC to Jazz in August. September looks to be many block hours beyond August with significant route and frequency additions for Express.

Jazz needs pilots back to work and in the training pipeline. Jazz was late to get started. Now playing catch-up.
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All pilots recalled at Jazz. Welcome back all!
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My best guess is August 29th, 2021.
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tango308 wrote: Mon Jul 26, 2021 6:18 pm All pilots recalled at Jazz. Welcome back all!

Fantastic news!

Here's hoping for some more good news around the industry in the coming weeks!
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So maybe the next question is how long do ppl think it will take to get all pilots back online?
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