Fall Equipment Bid
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Airlines don’t give a about housing affordability when they decide base staffing levels. They also don’t like commuters but they fail to relate the two.
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Also as an airline executive FA turnover is a good thing because it’s keeps staffing on the bottom pay levels. I’d imagine 3-4 years is perfect for how long they would want an FA to stay around
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How far do you reckon upgrades will go in this equipment bid? 2019 hires?
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Anyone hear of any updated news out yet regarding the up coming bid ?
Or is it radio silence till the 15th.
Or is it radio silence till the 15th.
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I'd be surprised if we hear anything before mid-august.
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Prob not until after the AC bid is my guess which has now been delayed until next week. They do all the crewing calculations together then AC sends what they need to Jazz.
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I don’t think there is much doubt at AC about the summer commercial schedule for North America except perhaps some tweaking as between mainline metal (including Rouge) and Express aircraft.
I think that the International schedule may be subject to less certainty hence an evaluation of WB staffing requirements.
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Honestly I do not expect a bid to be released until every recalled pilot is back on property (Aug 29). Cannot hold a bid if all your members are not “active”.
I’d expect Aug 30-31 at the earliest, sometime in September realistically.
I’d expect Aug 30-31 at the earliest, sometime in September realistically.
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But can they release the available positions before the 29th but close the bid after everyone's back? Inactives would need the access to the ESPB(I think) before the 29.KenoraPilot wrote: ↑Tue Aug 10, 2021 8:44 pm Honestly I do not expect a bid to be released until every recalled pilot is back on property (Aug 29). Cannot hold a bid if all your members are not “active”.
I’d expect Aug 30-31 at the earliest, sometime in September realistically.
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The plan was just communicated to the pilots. The bid is planned for the week of August 23rd with results being published in mid to late September
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Bid released between Aug 23 and not later 31st.
Results late September
Results late September
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What do you mean by that. Vacancies and baseline numbers posted on the 23 and the actual award of positions in September? Or is end of September the final version of the bid with no more corrections?
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Bid out "between the 23 and 31"JetSetter87 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:56 pm What do you mean by that. Vacancies and baseline numbers posted on the 23 and the actual award of positions in September? Or is end of September the final version of the bid with no more corrections?
2 weeks to bid
2 weeks to process
Except if there is a mistake, results will be out between mid and late september
If there is a mistake, we have 2 weeks to report it.
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All the best to everyone!the-minister31 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 3:27 amBid out "between the 23 and 31"JetSetter87 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:56 pm What do you mean by that. Vacancies and baseline numbers posted on the 23 and the actual award of positions in September? Or is end of September the final version of the bid with no more corrections?
2 weeks to bid
2 weeks to process
Except if there is a mistake, results will be out between mid and late september
If there is a mistake, we have 2 weeks to report it.
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Would anyone (in the know) kindly share the details if possible.
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1326 flying positions. Estimated to be approximately 90% of pre-COVID commercial schedule.
This represents full employment for active Jazz pilots as of Aug 29.
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Rudder, does the 1326 flying positions mean "line pilots" (term you have used in previous posts on this subject) ?
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Yes. Excludes inactive pilots (med leave/management/training department/LOA).
By way of comparison, the last Jazz equipment bid prior to COVID had 1300 flying positions. But it did NOT include the SKV E175 flying positions. SKV seniority list at time of consolidation was 283 but included management and training dept pilots and perhaps several LOA/med leave.
There are 328 E175 flying positions in the bid which is well beyond the SKV pilot totals when it was staffed separately.
The Jazz CBA and the CAR’s FTDT changes appear to have increased the staffing ratio. AC may also be planning increased utilization for the Express E175 fleet necessitating higher crewing levels.