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DHC-300's

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Can someone confirm that the -300's are all gone ?
I still see some random ones on the November AC schedule.
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Re: DHC-300's

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quikfixxx wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 3:34 pm Can someone confirm that the -300's are all gone ?
I still see some random ones on the November AC schedule.
At least 1 has been operating out west, not sure if it’s an operational spare or on certain routes.
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Re: DHC-300's

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Bunch still operating out east as well.
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Re: DHC-300's

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There are at least 5 (maybe more ?) retired Jazz -300s sitting in North Bay at the Voyageur boneyard as of a few days ago.
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Re: DHC-300's

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Lots of -300's are doing routes from YYZ to YQG, YXU and YSB.
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Re: DHC-300's

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There are ~10 left in the whole system. Approx 5 in YYZ, 3 in YUL and 1 maybe 2 out west. Probably be a few flying into 2022.....but they're getting pretty ratty and the company is really letting them go the last few years.
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Re: DHC-300's

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Looks like the (one) out west periodically flies to YPR.
I don't see it on any other schedules.
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1 Tail in YVR, 1 Tail in YYC, 2 perhaps in YUL still and about 3-4 in YYZ.

Won't be done completely unit Nov or December
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QKZXKV wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 12:26 pm 1 Tail in YVR, 1 Tail in YYC, 2 perhaps in YUL still and about 3-4 in YYZ.

Won't be done completely unit Nov or December
Somewhere between Dec 31 and January 31 they will all be parked in YYB or on the way to the scrap yard. All Jazz D8 pilots will be in training in other equipment types.
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rudder wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 12:43 pm
QKZXKV wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 12:26 pm 1 Tail in YVR, 1 Tail in YYC, 2 perhaps in YUL still and about 3-4 in YYZ.

Won't be done completely unit Nov or December
Somewhere between Dec 31 and January 31 they will all be parked in YYB or on the way to the scrap yard. All Jazz D8 pilots will be in training in other equipment types.
Will the tails that went through the lifetime extension likely find buyers? It would be interesting to see if Voyageur takes over the lifetime extension program as there must still be a market, small as it may be for DH3's.
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Once the bid results are out, we'll have a better idea of how things will unfold with the -300 flying. The situation is fluid with our industry.

On a side note, I just got back from Europe a few days ago and planes are full there as well. My flight back to Canada was packed. Not a single seat open.
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Splash wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 12:57 pm
rudder wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 12:43 pm
QKZXKV wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 12:26 pm 1 Tail in YVR, 1 Tail in YYC, 2 perhaps in YUL still and about 3-4 in YYZ.

Won't be done completely unit Nov or December
Somewhere between Dec 31 and January 31 they will all be parked in YYB or on the way to the scrap yard. All Jazz D8 pilots will be in training in other equipment types.
Will the tails that went through the lifetime extension likely find buyers? It would be interesting to see if Voyageur takes over the lifetime extension program as there must still be a market, small as it may be for DH3's.
Probably Voyageur
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rudder wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 12:43 pm
QKZXKV wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 12:26 pm 1 Tail in YVR, 1 Tail in YYC, 2 perhaps in YUL still and about 3-4 in YYZ.

Won't be done completely unit Nov or December
Somewhere between Dec 31 and January 31 they will all be parked in YYB or on the way to the scrap yard. All Jazz D8 pilots will be in training in other equipment types.
They won't all be scrapped as indicated by Chorus already. So most likely to YYB to go live in Africa or somewhere.
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RoAF-Mig21 wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 6:38 am Once the bid results are out, we'll have a better idea of how things will unfold with the -300 flying. The situation is fluid with our industry.

On a side note, I just got back from Europe a few days ago and planes are full there as well. My flight back to Canada was packed. Not a single seat open.
Second part is nice to hear.

The first one, the union has reiterated that they're toast at the end of the year. I believe them when they say it.
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QKZXKV wrote: Tue Sep 21, 2021 10:28 am
rudder wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 12:43 pm
QKZXKV wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 12:26 pm 1 Tail in YVR, 1 Tail in YYC, 2 perhaps in YUL still and about 3-4 in YYZ.

Won't be done completely unit Nov or December
Somewhere between Dec 31 and January 31 they will all be parked in YYB or on the way to the scrap yard. All Jazz D8 pilots will be in training in other equipment types.
They won't all be scrapped as indicated by Chorus already. So most likely to YYB to go live in Africa or somewhere.
I'd volunteer to ferry one to Africa :)

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Any of the aircraft with the life extension won't be scrapped at all. A Dash 8-300 is harder to find and more expensive than many -400's. It's a niche market aircraft with nothing to replace it. The ATR family just can't do great short field performance like a Dash 8 can.This country alone is full of short gravel runways never mind what's in Africa, SE Asia, etc.
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bobcaygeon wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:26 pm Any of the aircraft with the life extension won't be scrapped at all. A Dash 8-300 is harder to find and more expensive than many -400's. It's a niche market aircraft with nothing to replace it. The ATR family just can't do great short field performance like a Dash 8 can.This country alone is full of short gravel runways never mind what's in Africa, SE Asia, etc.
Have to disagree with the last part. All three territories in Northern Canada are filled with gravel runways, some of which are quite short, yet they are exclusively dominated by the ATR. Going from coast to coast starting with Air North (4x), Summit Air (5x), Calm Air (14x), Canadian North (13x) and Northstar (4x). The ATR flies a great payload daily into and out of CYXP which has a 2920’ gravel runway. Summit Air does have 3x DH8s but they are primarily used for southern work and Canadian North retired the 3x DH8s that were flying in the eastern and western arctic as well. The DH8 is obviously a marvel of Canadian aviation, as evidenced by its continuous use by other operators (Air Creebec, Air Inuit, PAL) and some international arctic carriers (Air Greenland, Wideroe). But to say that the ATR is not capable is wrong as it’s a great fit for the north in terms of capability (performance and payload) and self-sustainability (Hotel mode to replace a GPU and heat cart due to the lack of infrastructure in the north).
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opspec wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 6:29 am
bobcaygeon wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:26 pm Any of the aircraft with the life extension won't be scrapped at all. A Dash 8-300 is harder to find and more expensive than many -400's. It's a niche market aircraft with nothing to replace it. The ATR family just can't do great short field performance like a Dash 8 can.This country alone is full of short gravel runways never mind what's in Africa, SE Asia, etc.
Have to disagree with the last part. All three territories in Northern Canada are filled with gravel runways, some of which are quite short, yet they are exclusively dominated by the ATR. Going from coast to coast starting with Air North (4x), Summit Air (5x), Calm Air (14x), Canadian North (13x) and Northstar (4x). The ATR flies a great payload daily into and out of CYXP which has a 2920’ gravel runway. Summit Air does have 3x DH8s but they are primarily used for southern work and Canadian North retired the 3x DH8s that were flying in the eastern and western arctic as well. The DH8 is obviously a marvel of Canadian aviation, as evidenced by its continuous use by other operators (Air Creebec, Air Inuit, PAL) and some international arctic carriers (Air Greenland, Wideroe). But to say that the ATR is not capable is wrong as it’s a great fit for the north in terms of capability (performance and payload) and self-sustainability (Hotel mode to replace a GPU and heat cart due to the lack of infrastructure in the north).
Exactly this, the atr is all over the Philippines flying into short gravel strips onto the Islands. We Landed on El Nido which had a 2460ft gravel runway (which is apparently now replaced by a 3280 ft concrete runway) and of course we’re talking hot and humid. Performance seemed to be fine and it was quieter during takeoff than the 300’s are in cruise.
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