Accepting applications for First Officers & Direct Entry Captains
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Accepting applications for First Officers & Direct Entry Captains
Flair Airlines is currently accepting applications for the following:
- First Officers in Abbotsford, BC (YXX) & Hamilton, ON (YHM).
- Direct Entry Captains in Hamilton, ON (YHM).
The anticipated start date is mid January 2018, with ground school commencing in Kelowna, BC and SIM training to follow.
Please click the link to view both postings. https://workforcenow.adp.com/jobs/apply ... ource=CC3#
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Flair Airlines Careers
- First Officers in Abbotsford, BC (YXX) & Hamilton, ON (YHM).
- Direct Entry Captains in Hamilton, ON (YHM).
The anticipated start date is mid January 2018, with ground school commencing in Kelowna, BC and SIM training to follow.
Please click the link to view both postings. https://workforcenow.adp.com/jobs/apply ... ource=CC3#
Regards,
Flair Airlines Careers
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Where is 737 Sim held?
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What are you guys paying?
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SIM is usually held in Edmonton.
From start of ground school to line indoc, you can expect the process to be roughly 6-8 weeks. Salary starts on day 1 of ground school.
First year FO's start at $56k
First year Captains start at $93k
Benefits after 3 months, eligible for company contributed pension after 1 year. We do have a 2 year training bond, which is a promissory note. This means no money exchanges hands, but the amount is reduced every month worked and should you leave early, the amount outstanding would be owed. There is a staff travel program, standby for you and your immediate family plus one buddy on all Flair flights. No jumpseat agreements, yet.
If you have any further questions, please feel free to DM or give me a call (250-807-5467).
From start of ground school to line indoc, you can expect the process to be roughly 6-8 weeks. Salary starts on day 1 of ground school.
First year FO's start at $56k
First year Captains start at $93k
Benefits after 3 months, eligible for company contributed pension after 1 year. We do have a 2 year training bond, which is a promissory note. This means no money exchanges hands, but the amount is reduced every month worked and should you leave early, the amount outstanding would be owed. There is a staff travel program, standby for you and your immediate family plus one buddy on all Flair flights. No jumpseat agreements, yet.
If you have any further questions, please feel free to DM or give me a call (250-807-5467).
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Thanks for the info
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How much is the training bond?
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It's unreal that a Low Cost Carrier pays their F/Os more than Jazz, Encore, Sky and Porter. Jesus!
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Just goes to show you how much money is being made off your back's while flying the flag.HansDietrich wrote: ↑Mon Jan 01, 2018 9:20 pm It's unreal that a Low Cost Carrier pays their F/Os more than Jazz, Encore, Sky and Porter. Jesus!
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It really is a disgrace and I'm ashamed to be one of those individuals that accepts this salary. Not for long though. I'm actively looking for better employment. This is outrageous. This is $10,000 a year more than minimum wage Tim Hortons employee make; to fly an aircraft full of people. We all deserve more. Every pilot flying for a regional carrier is at leat $20K UNDERPAID.GATRKGA wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:36 pmJust goes to show you how much money is being made off your back's while flying the flag.HansDietrich wrote: ↑Mon Jan 01, 2018 9:20 pm It's unreal that a Low Cost Carrier pays their F/Os more than Jazz, Encore, Sky and Porter. Jesus!
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Actually, tim hortons employees make minimum wage, which comes out to about 22900 per year on a 40 hour per week shift.
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Absolutely agree with you. I am also looking to quit and never fly the flag again.HansDietrich wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2018 3:34 pmIt really is a disgrace and I'm ashamed to be one of those individuals that accepts this salary. Not for long though. I'm actively looking for better employment. This is outrageous. This is $10,000 a year more than minimum wage Tim Hortons employee make; to fly an aircraft full of people. We all deserve more. Every pilot flying for a regional carrier is at leat $20K UNDERPAID.GATRKGA wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:36 pmJust goes to show you how much money is being made off your back's while flying the flag.HansDietrich wrote: ↑Mon Jan 01, 2018 9:20 pm It's unreal that a Low Cost Carrier pays their F/Os more than Jazz, Encore, Sky and Porter. Jesus!
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Flew with a guy recently that was offered then turned down a spot there.
He said bond was $24k...
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duramaxguy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:33 pm
Flew with a guy recently that was offered then turned down a spot there.
He said bond was $24k...
Which makes sense, the pay is a little low for flying a B737, so they are probably worried people are going to just get the type, enough hours on type and jump to a better paying job.
Isn't too bad if you can go direct to capt, 90k for 2 years wouldn't be the worst stepping stone.
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Perhaps I’m missing something? Doesn’t Flair fly 737’s? I would expect them to pay more than someone flying Q400’s or Emb175’s.HansDietrich wrote: ↑Mon Jan 01, 2018 9:20 pm It's unreal that a Low Cost Carrier pays their F/Os more than Jazz, Encore, Sky and Porter. Jesus!
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viewtopic.php?f=5&t=121754&p=1024274&hi ... b#p1024274SuperchargedRS wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:02 amduramaxguy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:33 pm
Flew with a guy recently that was offered then turned down a spot there.
He said bond was $24k...
Which makes sense, the pay is a little low for flying a B737, so they are probably worried people are going to just get the type, enough hours on type and jump to a better paying job.
Isn't too bad if you can go direct to capt, 90k for 2 years wouldn't be the worst stepping stone.
superchargedBS once advised:
"To fly a 15 MILLION USD jet with 100 people aboard, starting wage needs to be 100kUSD STARTING, and by that I mean clean per the CBA."
That is $123 311 CDN as of today. "Clean". I assume that means after tax? Over 10k a month in your pocket in Canada to fly an RJ?
But the wind must have shifted today and superchargedBS must have got swoop fever.
According to superchargedBS today one can be a 737 captain for 90k (before tax) and it's not the worst stepping stone. Isn't even too bad. Leave 66k on the table over two years and take your valuable 737 classic rating to the next high paying job. Where is that job superchargedBS?
One more piece of advice from superchargedBS:
" you lack the mental hardware to make it anyways, just put a app into Timmys now."
Wrong you are superchargedBS. My colleagues voted me sandwich artist of the month. AGAIN!
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Canjet paid their new Captains $85,000 fifteen years ago, it was bad then, $90,000 is terrible now with the cost of living in those cities.
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telex wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:00 amviewtopic.php?f=5&t=121754&p=1024274&hi ... b#p1024274SuperchargedRS wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:02 amduramaxguy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:33 pm
Flew with a guy recently that was offered then turned down a spot there.
He said bond was $24k...
Which makes sense, the pay is a little low for flying a B737, so they are probably worried people are going to just get the type, enough hours on type and jump to a better paying job.
Isn't too bad if you can go direct to capt, 90k for 2 years wouldn't be the worst stepping stone.
superchargedBS once advised:
"To fly a 15 MILLION USD jet with 100 people aboard, starting wage needs to be 100kUSD STARTING, and by that I mean clean per the CBA."
That is $123 311 CDN as of today. "Clean". I assume that means after tax? Over 10k a month in your pocket in Canada to fly an RJ?
But the wind must have shifted today and superchargedBS must have got swoop fever.
According to superchargedBS today one can be a 737 captain for 90k (before tax) and it's not the worst stepping stone. Isn't even too bad. Leave 66k on the table over two years and take your valuable 737 classic rating to the next high paying job. Where is that job superchargedBS?
One more piece of advice from superchargedBS:
" you lack the mental hardware to make it anyways, just put a app into Timmys now."
Wrong you are superchargedBS. My colleagues voted me sandwich artist of the month. AGAIN!
Where you made a mistake in your analysis, is where you inserted a f' where I didn't give one.
I don't neither fly for an airline nor do I make that little.
So swoop fever? Nah bro, the job is too mindless and the pay too low for me.
I just see how people would use that as a stepping stone for a proper job and thus the reason they want to hold your money hostage to keep you from leaving.
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Accepting applications for First Officers Direct Entry Captains
I hope those that were interested put in their applications. It closed today. For those that applied, if you have any questions about the process, PM me and I can give you some pointers. Stay safe everyone.
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Recruitment for the Lower Mainland base and Toronto base will be ongoing throughout 2020.
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Website only mentions First Officer positions. No DEC then?