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SuperchargedRS wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:37 pm
Refused to be part of the problem by not working for bottom feeders

Used our union protection to leverage more money for our pilots

PIREPed best I could about both good and bad operators

More than happy to let the public know about the payshortsge vs the mythical pilot shortage
I might disagree on the US part of things, but that's nice and appreciated!
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How quickly these threads change direction. As previously mentioned if it happens it a good thing.
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shamrock104 wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:53 pm How quickly these threads change direction. As previously mentioned if it happens it a good thing.

How is it a good thing that Canadians let their aviation system get soooo screwed up that they have to scurry across the boarder to eat the scraps that American pilots don't want.

It's like one bum telling another how he found a dumpster with fresh burgers in it and that it's a great thing, and here I am saying maybe you should work on not having to eat out of dumpsters.

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And with that I'll get off my soap box, but please guys, stay out of the dumpsters :)
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lol SuperchargedRS, you're hilarious. I've been called a lot of things before, but absolutely never...meek! Thanks for the laugh! :mrgreen:

Just for the record, I don't work for WestJet. Been doing the expat widebody gig for well over 10 years. Don't really care what other people make, I wanted more than I could have in Canada so I went and got it. I have no desire to work in the US and far, far less to work in Canada. But if I had to choose between the two I'd leave Canada in a heartbeat to work in the US. Go where you're treated best, bitches. It's nice to care about your country. It's a bit strange to think it cares about YOU.

I'd have no problem at all putting chumps like SuperchargedRS in the rear view mirror while they make a fraction of my wage, pay higher taxes on it, and endure the shit climate.

The rhetoric is just, well, silly. Canada will NEVER have US wages. The economic differences between the two countries are fundamental and structural. Believing you can change it with some tough talk is more pathetic than actually having the balls to leave the cozy socialist paradise to go where the circumstances are better for wages when you have the chance.

The sad part is I think SuperchargedRS really does believe his own noise and HAS sacrificed, thinking it mattered or made a difference. My sympathies, man.
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Just surfed the net and, yep, Air Wisconsin is in fact paying big bucks (mind you, they are quoting everything including the kitchen sink to come up with those fantastic numbers), and they have the United mainline carrot dangling about for good measure.

Wonder if they would hire a 59 year old :lol: I'd be making more in a few years than I ever did in my entire career :lol:

So much for the '' &*?% pay that no American would touch '' theory espoused by some. Way off base on that one.

Hey, I'd say go for it if they do get hard up enough to sponsor visas.

As far as living in the US is concerned, I can confidently say that quality of life of my friends and acquaintances over there far outpace that of Canada, they have never looked back.

As far as choosing the sandbox, or china, or whatever third world country over the US, to each his own I guess. Interesting times indeed, I hear that the previous generation before mine also had similar opportunities. That was eons ago. Timing is everything.
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complexintentions wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:06 am lol SuperchargedRS, you're hilarious. I've been called a lot of things before, but absolutely never...meek! Thanks for the laugh! :mrgreen:

Just for the record, I don't work for WestJet. Been doing the expat widebody gig for well over 10 years. Don't really care what other people make, I wanted more than I could have in Canada so I went and got it. I have no desire to work in the US and far, far less to work in Canada. But if I had to choose between the two I'd leave Canada in a heartbeat to work in the US. Go where you're treated best, bitches. It's nice to care about your country. It's a bit strange to think it cares about YOU.

I'd have no problem at all putting chumps like SuperchargedRS in the rear view mirror while they make a fraction of my wage, pay higher taxes on it, and endure the shit climate.

The rhetoric is just, well, silly. Canada will NEVER have US wages. The economic differences between the two countries are fundamental and structural. Believing you can change it with some tough talk is more pathetic than actually having the balls to leave the cozy socialist paradise to go where the circumstances are better for wages when you have the chance.

The sad part is I think SuperchargedRS really does believe his own noise and HAS sacrificed, thinking it mattered or made a difference. My sympathies, man.

Actually not trying to change your own country, or thinking the people can't, that's quite socialist. The United States actually has a rich history or changing or just flat out replacing its government when it no longer serves the people.

As for me, I'm well into the six figures, home every night and only work half the year, I've also negotiated a increase in my pay, and the other pilots at my base.
I don't sacrifice, that's what other people do, and I didn't have to run away from my place of birth to do it.

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Another millennial who thinks that they are responsible for the current boom in aviation. You must be intimate friends with TSC...you are both delusional :roll:
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Well into six figures for half a years work...hmmm....
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JohnnyHotRocks wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:01 am Another millennial who thinks that they are responsible for the current boom in aviation. You must be intimate friends with TSC...you are both delusional :roll:
Interesting, because I distinctly remember setting the scene to bring the meeting with our managers and us getting about 12.5k more for each of the 4 pilots at my base, perhaps Im "delusional", but the digits in my paycheck sure as hell arent lol

The fact is Id wager Im far less "millennial" than you, Im paid well, I own my home, which I come back to every night, plane, cars, and everything else owned outright, Im not some meek boarder hopper living off credit, running to places where better men worked to improve conditions, I work to make the difference I want to see in my community.

So do I think Im responsible for the boom in the industry, of course not, but am I responsible for improving the situation in my little corner, damn straight.

confusedalot wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:42 am Well into six figures for half a years work...hmmm....

One week on, one week off = half

The fact that thats so crazy in your mind is case and point to the broken system and broken shells of men that are Canadian aviation.
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yep...yer delusional. one week on one week off, plus well over six figures, plus all of those airfares, plus, plus, plus.

How come all of us broken people out there never came across such a sweet deal? Even someone as stupid as me would have heard about such things after 39 years, no? Are you working for a Saudi prince? If so, hey, why not hire me, I gots lotsa jet time :lol:
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confusedalot wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:02 am yep...yer delusional. one week on one week off, plus well over six figures, plus all of those airfares, plus, plus, plus.

How come all of us broken people out there never came across such a sweet deal? Even someone as stupid as me would have heard about such things after 39 years, no? Are you working for a Saudi prince? If so, hey, why not hire me, I gots lotsa jet time :lol:

What airfares?

And no, Im not flying corp, specialty air service

But legit, you've been in the industry for almost 40 years and cant break 100k or have a good sched?
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Oh to have been born in the USA with such great timing.....
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confusedalot wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:02 am yep...yer delusional. one week on one week off, plus well over six figures, plus all of those airfares, plus, plus, plus.

How come all of us broken people out there never came across such a sweet deal? Even someone as stupid as me would have heard about such things after 39 years, no? Are you working for a Saudi prince? If so, hey, why not hire me, I gots lotsa jet time :lol:
http://www.avcanada.ca/forums2/viewtopi ... c#p1027248

between salary which is roughly $100k then all the bonuses this will be 130-140/yr for a Metro 2 so a very easily attainable position with someone that has 1500 hours ATPL and 500 MPIC
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140K per year to fly a metro, sign me up.
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confusedalot wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2018 9:18 am 140K per year to fly a metro, sign me up.
Don't forget the rolling duty day though. Nice money, but you'll be tired and get deaf while doing it.
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SuperchargedRS, millennial or not you're for sure one entitled specimen. Making history by shaking the rules of the neoliberal capitalist system from your little pilot base in Canada. Wow!
Get a grip mate, don't call yoursefl part of those ''better/real men'' yet. What hurts this industry far more than the money situation is people with your kind of attitude and lack of personal integrity.

Thanks for bragging about everything you have, but remember, ''you don't Own those things, they Own you''.
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skybluetrek wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2018 9:49 am SuperchargedRS, millennial or not you're for sure one entitled specimen. Making history by shaking the rules of the neoliberal capitalist system from your little pilot base in Canada. Wow!
Get a grip mate, don't call yoursefl part of those ''better/real men'' yet. What hurts this industry far more than the money situation is people with your kind of attitude and lack of personal integrity.

Thanks for bragging about everything you have, but remember, ''you don't Own those things, they Own you''.

You're using words that I don't think you understand the meaning to, or perhaps you don't understand what I've said here.

I am very much NOT entitled, I do not believe I am entitled to anything beyond my basic constitutional rights, I've also been called quite a few things, liberal is not often one of them lol

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the quality of being honest and having strong moral principles; moral uprightness.


I'm lacking integrity??? When others yearn to scamper across the boarder to eat American pilots' scraps vs putting their own house in order?
I lack integrity when I'm working (and winning) at increasing the pay of myself and my coworkers, while also making the company a good deal of money?

Here's the deal, I'm not entitled to the companies money, and the company is not entitled to my piloting services, however with negotiation and leverage on both sides we meet at a place that both sides find acceptable, I fly for them and make them money, I in turn get some of their money, the company can refuse to accept my offer and pay me what I think is fair, just as I can refuse to fly for them if I don't think their offering is fair.

And as per your soclaist bum like statement, no I own my stuff, and frankly it's all just toys and things which I use as an instrument of adventure, or shelter, or utlitly, I could pile all my cars and planes and home and everything else together and burn it, wouldn't change my self image or worth, not one damn iota.


See we're back to this self flagellation that Canadians and socialists seem to hold to some high regard, as if having some bum lifestyle, where you roam the earth with no possessions or ambition has become trendy, you talk down your profession, are ashamed of your successes, etc, etc
IMO It's a f'ing mental disorder

https://youtu.be/uCB42DDDXPI









So now it's your turn, turn off your TV, step back from your timmys, and talk with your fellow pilots; if you think you're under compensated, find a unified voice and a unified list of reasonable wants and go talk to management, they can always say no, you can always not fly for them, or you both meet somewhere in the middle, moving forward don't take jobs that pay for crap and those companies will ether pay more or go out of business.

You're responsible for your own future, take charge and make it a good one.
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SuperchargedRS wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:41 am
skybluetrek wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2018 9:49 am SuperchargedRS, millennial or not you're for sure one entitled specimen. Making history by shaking the rules of the neoliberal capitalist system from your little pilot base in Canada. Wow!
Get a grip mate, don't call yoursefl part of those ''better/real men'' yet. What hurts this industry far more than the money situation is people with your kind of attitude and lack of personal integrity.

Thanks for bragging about everything you have, but remember, ''you don't Own those things, they Own you''.

You're using words that I don't think you understand the meaning to, or perhaps you don't understand what I've said here.

I am very much NOT entitled, I do not believe I am entitled to anything beyond my basic constitutional rights, I've also been called quite a few things, liberal is not often one of them lol

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I'm lacking integrity??? When others yearn to scamper across the boarder to eat American pilots' scraps vs putting their own house in order?
I lack integrity when I'm working (and winning) at increasing the pay of myself and my coworkers, while also making the company a good deal of money?

Here's the deal, I'm not entitled to the companies money, and the company is not entitled to my piloting services, however with negotiation and leverage on both sides we meet at a place that both sides find acceptable, I fly for them and make them money, I in turn get some of their money, the company can refuse to accept my offer and pay me what I think is fair, just as I can refuse to fly for them if I don't think their offering is fair.

And as per your soclaist bum like statement, no I own my stuff, and frankly it's all just toys and things which I use as an instrument of adventure, or shelter, or utlitly, I could pile all my cars and planes and home and everything else together and burn it, wouldn't change my self image or worth, not one damn iota.


See we're back to this self flagellation that Canadians and socialists seem to hold to some high regard, as if having some bum lifestyle, where you roam the earth with no possessions or ambition has become trendy, you talk down your profession, are ashamed of your successes, etc, etc
IMO It's a f'ing mental disorder

https://youtu.be/uCB42DDDXPI









So now it's your turn, turn off your TV, step back from your timmys, and talk with your fellow pilots; if you think you're under compensated, find a unified voice and a unified list of reasonable wants and go talk to management, they can always say no, you can always not fly for them, or you both meet somewhere in the middle, moving forward don't take jobs that pay for crap and those companies will ether pay more or go out of business.

You're responsible for your own future, take charge and make it a good one.
To disparage others and their choices because you think you're entitled to the ''truth'' about what everybody should be doing to make this a better industry shows a lack of adherence to moral and ethical principles = lack of integrity. And as long as the level of disrespect to fellow pilots remains as shown on this blog, we will never stand together for a common cause.
I understand what you're trying to say, and we all want working conditions to keep improving, but misprizing those who chose a different approach to their lifes and careers, in the name of improving the national industry is not the way. And you're right, it doesn't make you sound like a liberal, more like a member of the National Socialist Canadian Workers' Party.
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The only reason he went to the states is because he failed out of college in Canada and couldn’t get a job here, so he went to the states back when the regionals were paying FO’s 16k a year. Now the tables have turned in the last 5 years with regards to wages, and he’s telling us Canadian Pilots now lack integrity. :roll:
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If it's one thing I've learned from my time on AvCanada is that Supercharge is perfect! He's never made a mistake and even when Confed didn't work out for him it was no fault of his own (instead it was the "mystery exam").

I'm really starting to realize there will always be people in situations completely different from yours b******* and moaning about what you should do. Just do what you feel is right. Don't undercut others (Golden rule level ****). The haters are going to hate either way.

If heading south to fly for a US regional puts you and your family in a better position and you can accept the consequences go for it. Supercharge will be critical of you no matter what you chose.
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