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mellow_pilot wrote:No matter what the source it is biased. In any story, there are two sides, and somewhere in the middle is the truth. Even the CBC is on-side with the more conservative networks when it comes to reporting on Iraq. Note the use the terms, 'insurgents' and 'enemy combatants', instead of 'pissed-off Iraqis' and 'normal citizens'. In the US war of independance, civilians bearing arms against a national army were called 'patriots'. Iraqi patriots? The CBC though less influenced by corporate ownership, is still biased by our perception of the world as Westerners. Just as any media here, publicly funded or not, will be. Ratings make their world go round.
I have to laugh at the cold war rhetoric in this thread. Marxist-Lennonism and communism are not the same thing, not that I'm defending either. To call some one a Communist like the term is synonomus with evil and stupidity is a bit silly. Calling a liberal a communist is like calling a conservative a facist. I don't think anyone in Canada is that extreme. (cept maybe the skin-head I met in the Outback that one night, long story)
Anyway, the point is that social 'liberism' doesn't make me Stalin, any more than fiscal 'conservatism' makes me Hitler.
Before you all go yelling at me about this, take a Political Science course at your local university. I've found it very informative, without being coersive. It hasn't changed my political views, but it sure has made me think a lot more about what I'm saying on this site.
Oh ya the CBC is right wing. that's why they refuse to call terrorists terrorists. that's why they use terms like "the so called terrorists".
Have a read through this. this should provoke some good discussion here.
God forbid that I attempt to defend The Canadian Broadcorping Castration, but I will. In defense of that corporation one has to keep something in mind at all times. The "wordage" and expressions are driven greatly by CBC's legal department and based on past lawsuits that they lost. Therefore, until something is PROVEN legally, then they will used the term "alleged" extensively. One of those court cases they lost was with me. I was pronounced dead and my wife called some days later for an interview on me. I was not dead nor had I even been injured and it didn't involve me at all, but a reporter did not do his "due diligence" because he was running out of time to submit his story. They should have used the term "allegedly" and the incident would have been bad enough, but I would have had little legal recourse in court.
Police forces are mindful of the same thing because of law suits again. They use the term "until next of kin have been notified" because lawsuits have followed when they didn't do that in the past and people found out about a family member's death from the media. In some cases it resulted in heart attacks to parents and other family members and the lawsuits ensued......and rightly so.
Oh boy. Now you've gone and done it. Mentioning the "cold war" will really get the nutty lefties all riled up, because they were defeated at the time by (get this) a Hollywood actor suffering from advanced alzheimer's.
How embarrassing for the lefties, losing a battle to a mental midget like Ronald Reagan. Hey, are there any lefty union idiots around we can bait and make fun of? Patco Patco Patco .... here boys, Patco Patco Patco ....
Then again, history does tend to repeat itself. The lefties being defeated by a senile actor is not entirely unlike the lefties being out-maneuvered by a drunken frat party boy from Texas
LH wrote:God forbid that I attempt to defend The Canadian Broadcorping Castration, but I will. In defense of that corporation one has to keep something in mind at all times. The "wordage" and expressions are driven greatly by CBC's legal department and based on past lawsuits that they lost. Therefore, until something is PROVEN legally, then they will used the term "alleged" extensively. One of those court cases they lost was with me. I was pronounced dead and my wife called some days later for an interview on me. I was not dead nor had I even been injured and it didn't involve me at all, but a reporter did not do his "due diligence" because he was running out of time to submit his story. They should have used the term "allegedly" and the incident would have been bad enough, but I would have had little legal recourse in court.
Police forces are mindful of the same thing because of law suits again. They use the term "until next of kin have been notified" because lawsuits have followed when they didn't do that in the past and people found out about a family member's death from the media. In some cases it resulted in heart attacks to parents and other family members and the lawsuits ensued......and rightly so.
Is the CBC worried Osama is going to sue them for slander? Give me a break.
No Dust Devil, the CBC is not worried about being sued by Osama Bin Laden for slander. Unless you are as "dumb as a bag of hammers", you know exactly what I meant. The next one they might report on as a terrorist is YOU perhaps and they can say that you are "allegedly" (as in not proven) a terrorst, BUT if they say you "ARE a terrorist", you can sue thair heinie's off and there's tons of high-profile lawyers in Canada who would hjust drool to have a case like that plunked down on their desk. In otherwards, if it ain't PROVEN, then watch your mouth who you defame.
Dust devil -------I don't know who you are referring to as "they", but I've personally heard Osama being called a "terrorist" many times in print, interviews and other media. If someone wishes to call him a "freedom fighter", then I also like them to explain to me what "freedoms" he is fighting for? I wouldn't begin to get into an argument about the semantics of the wording, in an attempt to use the so-called "correct word" because I couldn't care less. Who cares if you are Mother Theresa?.......you deserve to die period.
Dust Devil -------why is it important to have the correct name for someone who plants a bomb in a car and blows-up innocent people? Obviously you care, but I couldn't care less what name they use.
Soory, but when I last spoke with Peter Mansbridge, he was a Ticket Agent for a company called TransAir in Churchill, MB. I don't know what guidelines he operates under now with his new employer.......and I don't care what him or CBC defines Osama as either because I know what he is. Osama's also worth about $2.65 and that's the price for a self-loaded .50 cal BMG shell. Even cheaper would be a toilet wired to 500KV and then when he goes to take a piss...........
LH wrote:Dust Devil -------why is it important to have the correct name for someone who plants a bomb in a car and blows-up innocent people? Obviously you care, but I couldn't care less what name they use.
Soory, but when I last spoke with Peter Mansbridge, he was a Ticket Agent for a company called TransAir in Churchill, MB. I don't know what guidelines he operates under now with his new employer.......and I don't care what him or CBC defines Osama as either because I know what he is. Osama's also worth about $2.65 and that's the price for a self-loaded .50 cal BMG shell. Even cheaper would be a toilet wired to 500KV and then when he goes to take a piss...........
If you don't care then why did you comment on the link I posted about the CBCs policy on the "so called terrorists". not to mention the you deserve to die crap.
Any way I'm willing to drop this topic because I think your crossing a line here. These political forums are about healthy discussion and this is becoming anything but healthy.
You right. I'm wrong. I'm willing to leave it at that.
Dust Devil ----- I'm afraid that you misunderstood my comment about "Mother Theresa". For clarification, I was using the "you" in the plural sense, and not YOU in particular. Read it again and keep this comment in mind when doing so.
I commented on the CBC and the discussion concerning semantics involved because I consider some particular name for their "occupation" or "trade" to be inconsequential to anything. A murder is a murder and who cares if an "Accountant" is the person's profession? One can dream up all the $50 words that one wants to supposedly describe these people, but it doesn't change one iota what they are.......murderers.
Ender ------- not necessary sir. It's "a long alley without trash cans" and the odds are that he'll get his "just reward" before too terribly long. There's too much money to be made off of his head and he's got too many people looking for his ass........and some of them could "take him out" and have a "double, double" and a donut one minute later. I trust and hope that there are indeed 70 virgins awaiting him in the "next world" because the last photo I saw of him, the first virgin would cause his death in that world too. Now THAT would be TRUE justice.
So, if a terrorist wins, he's a "freedom fighter". Just ask Fidel Castro
If by some bizarre twist of fate, for example, Japan had won the second world war, I can assure you that the Americans that dropped the nukes on Hiroshima and Nagasaki would have been tried and hung as war criminals.
Are you people really that stupid that you don't understand the above?
hz2p ------read carefully....."the winner is the one standing up and the looser is the one laying down". If I was a Cuban and I had called Castro all sorts of names before his rise to power, I would call him "Sir" the day he achieved that power. If and when Osama rules over Canada, then I'll call him "Sir" also and smile when I do it.........until then, he's a murderer in my home and community.
Just a small piece of interesting trivia for Canadians out there. The last Medal of Honor winner was one Peter Lemon, a Canadian with the US Army during Vietnam. I had the pleasure of knowing the guy and he now resides in Denver, CO.
