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I'm asking you what you think. It's a simple yes or no.
Until I see proof either way my answer remains I don't know.

Should I make a judgement on something this serious based on my personal feelings?
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C.W.E. wrote: Tue Dec 25, 2018 3:31 pm
I'm asking you what you think. It's a simple yes or no.
Until I see proof either way my answer remains I don't know.

Should I make a judgement on something this serious based on my personal feelings?
I think you'd have to weigh things logically. What are the odds that 22 women over the span of decades have all decided to lie about events all relating to one person? What's more likely, that this man is perfectly innocent and they're all just trying to take him down, or that he does have a tendency towards sexual predation and has repeatedly acted inappropriately? Almost all of these situations are going to devolve into hearsay because tangible evidence is unfortunately not available. So, one accusation, maybe it's false. Two, getting less likely. 22? There has to be some truth there. It's extremely unlikely that there isn't. This isn't a trial. He will likely never face criminal punishment. That doesn't mean that there isn't truth there, and I'd argue that that should affect your judgement.
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Maybe you remember the "grab em by the pussy" conversation he was recorded having? A very predatory and disturbing attitude. I don't know any level headed people that talk or think like that.
Of course I remember that recording and based on a broad spectrum of people in society there are a lot of conversations that would fit in that category.
He's a racist because he is on record saying "all Mexicans are drug deals and rapists". He's made sympathetic comments towards white supremacist hate protesters.
Where was it reported he said " all " Mexicans are drug dealers and rapists?
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This is what you asked me Tailchaser.
Once again what proof is there that they are not lying?
I think it is possible one or more of them are lying but it is possible some are not lying.
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C.W.E. wrote: Tue Dec 25, 2018 3:43 pm This is what you asked me Tailchaser.
Once again what proof is there that they are not lying?
I think it is possible one or more of them are lying but it is possible some are not lying.
So you think some of them could be telling the truth about being sexually assaulted, but you still support him?
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So you think some of them could be telling the truth about being sexually assaulted, but you still support him?
Based on what I know about Trump and taking everything into consideration here is my position.

So far there I have not seen proof he is a rapist or a racist.

It remains to be seen just how good or bad a president he will end up being, will he make America great again? I don't know but he sure has a tough hill to climb given the raw hatred that he faces from most of the media.

For sure a country can not exist if there are no borders and there are a lot of Democrats who will trade their countries border to get rid of him so I am waiting to see how it all turns out.

I am pro American because of where and how I was programmed in my early years and so far I remain pro American.

One thing I have observed in my decades of living in many different countries is I am very anti socialism and for sure the USA so far has resisted socialism.

Therefore I would rather have Trump leading the most powerful nation on earth than a socialist leader.
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Merry Christmas Fellow Aviators.

I definitely think we have it WAY better at the end of the day even with lower salaries in Canada. I mean who wants to walk around with a bulletproof jacket all the f******* time. Nonetheless, we should really catch up to international standards.

Now onto the more interesting stuff on this thread.

Justin Trudeau is a complete moron with NO BACKBONE. He is too scared to do anything that will hurt anyone out there. How can you LEAD, DEFEND and PROPULSE our great nation into prosperity while helping others and inspiring others to follow our footsteps. Who naturally and subconsciously follows a weak leader/person. This goes down to genetics in the entire animal kingdom. Nations, tribes, herds, who do well all have a strong, decisive and healthy leader. I use to be a Liberal and find myself more and more pushed toward the right. THE RIGHT PATH. Now you can be a male with a HUGE DICK AND BALLS but identify as a female. What kind of bull crap is that.....I'm all for freedom and liberties but when is too much, too much. Please Trudeau, spend less time thinking about how not to hurt people and please everyone and GOVERN our country or GTFO.

TRUMP. I love and hate the man. Not everything he does I agree with....He is not perfect but then again WHO is?? One of the only politician in the Western World who tries so hard and has succeed in many fronts to do EXACTLY what he has PROMISED to do in his campaign. He is a man of his WORD. He has HONOR in that way.... Something most FB, Twitter, Instagram and whatever XYZ social media millennial addicts don't know what is. Humanity is in great danger of self-destruction if not for the likes of modern day prophets such as Elon Musk. Back to Trump. Why is EVERYONE acting so surprised when he does something he's been campaigning about since the beginning. Isn't that what NORMAL politics should be. He is not scared to say whats on his mind. How else would you engage in a constructive argument towards a better tomorrow if you HIDE what you really think/feel inside of you.

Trump has reshaped the US economy and his bringing back his troops home. THAT'S FANTASTIC. The same people BITCHING are the same people who bitched AGAINST sending troops out. OMG what about ISIS, what about terrorists. We will not be safe. You idiots....TERRORISTS and hatred against the WEST is all because we send troop to the other side of the world and play POLICE and @#$! shit up. NO F******* WONDER those people are pissed of at us and want to kill us all. ITS ALL LOGIC. IF you pull out let them do WHATEVER the @#$! they want in their SOVEREIGN COUNTRY you will see how fast terrorism will drop. They will be too busy killing themselves. Not only USA and allies will save money but they will be able to concentrate their efforts and funds in say...hmm HELPING MUSK propulse humans into space faring creatures. Wouldn't exploring the universe and advancing science be way more rewarding and helpful to our species then policing medieval era tribes in the Middle East. You will most likely earn their respect and cooperation by demonstrating huge technical advancements for ALL HUMANS.

Lets look at China and India for example. About the same population, resources etc give and take. China has done HUGE leaps into the forefront of the most powerful nations while India still trails behind. This fundamentally comes down to the system of governance. In India, often called the largest democracy in the world, there many levels of administration and governance. In order to build a staircase for example, it must go thru 34938498 steps of government and votes and be approved by everyone. In China, if they want to built a staircase, the government steps in and gets and ESCALATOR built in. No bullshit, no time wasted. THING GET DONE with a more AUTOCRATIC government. Don't get me wrong, I am by no means saying China or authoritarian governments are the way to go, far from that.


Onto my last rant....sexual allegations, assaults etc etc.....what a JOKE that is nowadays. I LOVE WOMEN and I think they should be FULLY RESPECTED and integrated in modern day society everywhere in the world. But seriously what the @#$! is going on these days. Do you guys/gals remember when all these STREAKS of sexual allegations started??? It was ALL after TIGER WOODS got taken down. A giant, a LEGEND brought down to ashes. This gave ideas to many gold diggers and BORED women out there.All these women OUT OF NO WHERE starting coming out from everywhere and accusing every WEALTHY/FAMOUS/POWERFUL man around. Its like a THING now. They probably talk about it and give out tips in certain secretive women's magazines and we don't even know about it. But really in all seriousness, i'm willing to bet that only 5% of those cases are actually close to being real. I mean men will always be MEN. WE ALL DO MAKE REMARKS whether in between guys or towards women and everyone just laughs about it...Including normal WOMEN. I'm not saying go and grab some random girl's ass at Tim Hortons but i'm sure you understand my point. This has gone OUT OF CONTROL. I'm I the only one who see this.

Having said all of this. Many of the small minded people will start barking right away at one or two sentences or even a word I said in one of these paragraphs and try to bring me down and forget all the other substance I said. However, I am talking to my fellow PROFESSIONAL pilots who have CRITICAL MINDS, are highly educated and who have traveled the world thus giving them a broad understanding of the human kind and actually found that at the end of the day what NORMAL people want, no matter where they are from. is to live happy, safely and be able to raise their offspring to experience a better world then they have. Those are the people that can truly understand the critical points I am trying to make.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Years! Fly Safe and remember that Canadian Aviation is probably the best and most respected in the WORLD. Lets keep doing what we do and do it BETTER everyday.
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Great post CPT.HarshColdReality.

May I add that Trump has never been accused of rape unlike Clinton the darling of the left.

And one more thing about Justin Trudeau how on earth did he come to the decision to give that terrorist ten million of our taxpayers dollars???
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C.W.E. wrote: Tue Dec 25, 2018 5:08 pm And one more thing about Justin Trudeau how on earth did he come to the decision to give that terrorist ten million of our taxpayers dollars???
Well, the precedent was set when Harper gave Arar 10 million taxpayer dollars plus his apology

Each was held as a terrorist, and each was acquitted on all charges of terrorism. While Khadr was working for a terrorist organization, he was only a child and was finally found not guilty. He was also held without charges or legal council or trial in violation of nearly every national and international law as well as tortured. Only circumantial evidence points to him killing a foreign soldier in a combat zone in a battle in which he was very badly wounded—which isn’t terrorism, and much evidence contradicts it.

The Canadian Government was going to lose 20 million dollars in an unwinnable case plus the hundred of millions spent trying to fight it. Trudeau nicely saved us ten million

Moral of the story: due process and fair trials are a thing in this country. This kid would be penniless and likely in juvenile had the Canadian Government properly extradited him.

Which leads me to my next thing of what makes a good leader.

A good leader is supposed to inspire confidence in those they govern. They are supposed to convey a feeling of calm and authority, inspire the people, and quell fear and uncertainty. A leader who can do that—in spite of any other faults or lack of skills or achievements—can do a huge good for the nation.

Winston Churchill and FDR were two leaders who exuded those qualities. In more recent times, Ronald Reagan and Barrack Obama—two presidents who are far more alike in both charisma, character, actions, and ultimately faults than either side is willing to admit.

Justin Trudeau and Donald Trump are both alike in the way they don’t exude those qualities. Trudeau’s youth and inexperience and silliness and wishywashiness dont give a strong impression and people won’t follow him. But he doesn’t play the fear card. He doesn’t pull on people’s apprehensions by inventing enemies out of virtually nothing.

That’s what Trump does. Trump also doesn’t have experience—specifically working for someone else or with anyone else and he is woefully behind Trudeau in understanding most aspects of leading a country... but he makes up for it by using anger and fear, two absolutely terrible qualities in any leader. He throws around American Exceptionalism like the US isn’t dependent on globalism. He is throwing a tantrum right now because Congress won’t appropriate funds for an expensive and ineffective wall (which Mexico was supposed to pay for), shuting down the government in a move every previous president tried to avoid and sending markets into a spiral.

People and businesses can handle high taxes, they can handle a poor economy, they can handle tariffs, they can handle strict laws... because you can plan for it. They cannot... ever... handle uncertainty, and people are waking up to the fact that Trump has virtually no idea what he is doing as he tweets policy and wields executive power that thank God we don’t have in Canada. And it was the fear that got him there. Get a bunch of rednecks together, tell them that illegals and Muslims are going to destroy them, and they’ll give up their freedoms, give up their taxes, and suppport you forever even though you probably have illegals working on your resorts and certainly have huge business ventures in the country where most of the 9/11 terrorists originated. It’s simply mind boggling.

I guess we’ll see where Trump takes it from here. He ran a three decade profitable airline out of cash in only 15 months. Sounds like par for the course.
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He is throwing a tantrum right now because Congress won’t appropriate funds for an expensive and ineffective wall
Walls are ineffective?

Israel doesn't seem to think so.
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In spite of the wall they still manage to smuggle rockets into Gaza and experience sectarian violence within their own borders—two thing that the US doesn’t have to worry about from Mexico.

If I was a Mexican who wanted to illegally immigrate the US, I’d buy a return ticket to Denver from Mexico City, get a one week visa on my Mexican passport from US customs, and disappear.
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Walls were effective in the white well to do sections of the big cities in South Africa when I worked there in fact they were very effective because they had razor wire and glass shards in concrete on top of them.

If they were not effective they would not have been built.

One thing that did not work was the traffic lights because no one stopped for them especially in the dark.
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Tail-Chaser wrote: Tue Dec 25, 2018 2:41 pm
C.W.E. wrote: Tue Dec 25, 2018 2:15 pm
However Trump is a racist sexual predator. No matter what he may accomplish I can’t get past those two things
Trump's sexual exploits were with willing participants who were grown adults and in some cases they charged him for his use of their bodies, is he a racist because he seems to prefer white women?

That really does not fit in the predator category as I see it but I guess you see it differently.
http://www.businessinsider.com/women-ac ... st-2017-12

So all 22 women are liars?
@Tail-Chaser

I am no fan of The Donald. But the argument that since X number of people allege something, it must be true, has to be the worst possible logic I can think of. Repetition is not "truth". The number of people that believe something has no correlation to the reality of events. Only an imbecile or the extremely naive believe otherwise.

In the proper intent of presumption of innocence, whether or not I or you believe any or all of women are "liars" is completely, totally irrelevant. You may feel disgust that the "system" is supposed to protect that presumption for Trump the same as anyone else. But that's the whole point.

If you accuse someone of criminal acts you must also allow the criminal justice system to show that they happened or did not. Seems to me you've skipped that step completely.

But don't worry, there are plenty of places around the world that you would feel more at home with that have a more simplistic system for meting out their idea of justice. Perhaps you should consider spending some time in them to help decide if they're really an improvement over the admittedly imperfect system the West has.

Oh, and Merry Christmas! :mrgreen:
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If you accuse someone of criminal acts you must also allow the criminal justice system to show that they happened or did not. Seems to me you've skipped that step completely.
It would appear that Tail- Chaser is a victim of ignorance of the law.
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C.W.E. wrote: Tue Dec 25, 2018 9:00 pm
If you accuse someone of criminal acts you must also allow the criminal justice system to show that they happened or did not. Seems to me you've skipped that step completely.
It would appear that Tail- Chaser is a victim of ignorance of the law.
Court of public opinion folks. Slightly different rules. :roll:
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Justin Trudeau touched some woman’s cans at a music festival in B.C. eighteen years ago, it made the news. He ain’t innocent. May not be a pussy grabber but he’s not immune to the siren call of a lady.

Back on topic of AC 320s AA 320s, ours were purchased thanks to Brian Mulroney getting a kickback.
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CPT.HarshColdReality wrote: Tue Dec 25, 2018 4:45 pm
TRUMP. One of the only politician in the Western World who tries so hard and has succeed in many fronts to do EXACTLY what he has PROMISED to do in his campaign. He is a man of his WORD. He has HONOR in that way
I was hoping someone else was going to do this but I guess it’s left to me.
Remember the EXACTLY in caps was yours

Promise:balance the federal budget-its growing not shrinking
Promise:I would not be a President who took vacations-golf golf golf
Promise:cancel funding to sanctuary cities -court puts an end to that promise
Promise: he’d cut taxes and the rich would pay more-53% of Americans will pay more but he told his wealthy friends at Mar-A-Lago “you all just got a lot richer”
Promise:to end North Korea’s nuclear program-didn’t happen. He doesn’t even talk about it anymore
Promise:repeal and replace Obamacare with insurance for everyone-did not repeal or replace, however did cut funding so 4 million less Americans have health care
Promise:invest one trillion in crumbling infrastructure- after tax cuts for the rich there’s no money for this
Promise:bring down drug prices-didn’t happen
Promise:label China a “currency manipulator”- nope
Promise:won’t bomb Syria-boom
Promise:revive the struggling coal industry (because everyone want a job in a coal mine)-didn’t happen
Promise:release his taxes-lies
Promise: I WILL BUILD A WALL AND MEXICO WILL PAY FOR IT- HA HA HA still waiting for this to happen

I could go on and on but I think you get the idea. If you want to edit your EXACTLY to undercase we would understand
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Promise:release his taxes-lies
He promised to release tax-lies?

You mean he lied on his tax forms and promised to release them so the public can see them?
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Back on topic, I have a longtime friend who won the green card lottery way back in the 80's when Canada was not excluded. (You can thank your wonderful Canadian government for lobbying against Canadians being scooped up by the Americans because they were complaining about a brain drain).

Anyways, my buddy has been at american for what, 30 years or so? Obviously, he is near the top, but still not quite at the top.

He made 390K as a 737 captain last year.

Worse still, american pays less than the other brand names.

So boys and girls, we have been, and still are getting, screwed over big time by BS excuses why the industry here cannot pay more. So much for the good old fair and just Canadian way of doing things myth and lie. Seems to me that Canadian management is at the top of the greed pile.

Can't do much about it anymore at 60 and forcibly retired. Would be happy to witness a overturn of the present condition though.

Supply and demand in this third world country has never been seen before. Hell, they pay more in other third world countries.

Time to put your pants on and just say no. Airlines won't go bankrupt, lots of the actors are making a ton of money.
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