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Sunwing provided me a hotel and rental car in YYZ when that was my base. An airline can’t expect you to pack up and move your life across the country with a couple weeks notice. The hotel and car came in handy for apartment hunting in yyz.
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Devil's advocate here: don't they ask you "when can you start"? Doesn't that imply you should have your living situation figured out by then?
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On a positive note. At least you didn’t even have to wait for day 1 of employment to start to see your new employers shitty ways...... 👍
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Unless it has changed. At Sky you are on the hook for accommodations in YYZ if the job offer is outside of 3 weeks (I think, might be 1 month). If it is inside this time frame they will than supply the accommodations.
goleafsgo wrote: Sun Dec 30, 2018 7:09 pm What about the other airlines where you know your base when you accept the job? Sunwing, Georgian rj? Possibly sky regional? What an embarrassment wj/encore is not providing accommodations for initial training
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digits_ wrote: Sun Dec 30, 2018 10:03 pm
C-GGGQ wrote: Sun Dec 30, 2018 9:29 pm Just because it's your base doesn't mean you live there.
True, but can you blame your employer for that? The pilot is still responsible to report on time for duty well rested, so that could mean getting a crashpad. Why would that be different for training? Of course a hotel would be nice in that case, but I still can't see why that would be Westjet's problem. You accepted the job with a pre assigned base. Which, as mentioned above, is a pretty big difference between Westjet and Jazz etc.
The 703 operator I had an offer from pays for accomodation for training. Even called me though I politely declined as I'm roughly 10 minutes from the airport.
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Does Transat or Sunwing pay for accommodation?
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C-GGGQ wrote: Mon Dec 31, 2018 8:40 am The 703 operator I had an offer from pays for accomodation for training. Even called me though I politely declined as I'm roughly 10 minutes from the airport.
Nice! Very classy! Can I ask who the operator is? I'm sure some positive publicity for them would be welcome in this hiring climate.
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Skycare lol. I understand they are unpopular on here. I have no real first hand knowledge of the operation thus far. Yeah the bond sucks, but while it's not prorated it's not up front either. While this possibly says more about the state of the industry and how hard it is for 703's to keep guys rather than the company itself. I was supposed to start groundschool Sept 13. On Sept 10 I started feeling sick and on the 12 I was diagnosed with mumps which then actually turned out to be mono, and thyroid cancer. I've had major surgery and am in recovery and this whole time I've kept them updated, and I still have a standing offer, and they let me know each time a groundschool will start and if I think I'll be ready for it or if I wish to wait for the next. I've pushed the date twice so far and was told last week I could start Jan 26 or we could wait till early March if that works better. I even asked if I could have some of the training material now since all I'm doing is sitting at home watching tv and they happily sent it to me.
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Skycare is better than Encore. Suggest all future applicants to apply there instead.
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You can stay at my condo in Edmonton. It's on the southside.
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What do you guys think of crashpads, I'll be commuting in from yvr. Essential or can I just commute.
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Oxi wrote: Mon Dec 31, 2018 9:33 am Does Transat or Sunwing pay for accommodation?
Swg does
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kc1337 wrote: Wed Dec 26, 2018 3:57 pm Hi All,

I'll be starting my groundschool with Encore in January in YYC. Looking for a place to stay for 6 weeks for the training. Also can anyone give me some insights on how crash pads work?

please send me an e-mail at kennethcho1030@gmail.com

Encore doesn't provide a hotel for initial training? Sad.
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Correction, Westjet group does not provide accommodations if the training is at your base.

Lightchop wrote: Wed Jan 02, 2019 8:28 pm
kc1337 wrote: Wed Dec 26, 2018 3:57 pm Hi All,

I'll be starting my groundschool with Encore in January in YYC. Looking for a place to stay for 6 weeks for the training. Also can anyone give me some insights on how crash pads work?

please send me an e-mail at kennethcho1030@gmail.com

Encore doesn't provide a hotel for initial training? Sad.
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flyinhigh wrote: Thu Jan 03, 2019 8:22 am Correction, Westjet group does not provide accommodations if the training is at your base.

Lightchop wrote: Wed Jan 02, 2019 8:28 pm
kc1337 wrote: Wed Dec 26, 2018 3:57 pm Hi All,

I'll be starting my groundschool with Encore in January in YYC. Looking for a place to stay for 6 weeks for the training. Also can anyone give me some insights on how crash pads work?

please send me an e-mail at kennethcho1030@gmail.com

Encore doesn't provide a hotel for initial training? Sad.

If I was applying at companies and saw one that didn't supply housing during training that would be a pretty quick decision. What else do they cut costs on?

I've heard they have an app that tells you to slow down if you're early or climb even if is just saves a few dollars. Stories of FA's coming up to the flight deck and asking the Captain "why are you burning away my profit sharing" when the APU was on.

Sounds like a fantastic place to work!
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Lightchop wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:59 pm
flyinhigh wrote: Thu Jan 03, 2019 8:22 am Correction, Westjet group does not provide accommodations if the training is at your base.

Lightchop wrote: Wed Jan 02, 2019 8:28 pm


Encore doesn't provide a hotel for initial training? Sad.

If I was applying at companies and saw one that didn't supply housing during training that would be a pretty quick decision. What else do they cut costs on?

I've heard they have an app that tells you to slow down if you're early or climb even if is just saves a few dollars. Stories of FA's coming up to the flight deck and asking the Captain "why are you burning away my profit sharing" when the APU was on.

Sounds like a fantastic place to work!
I don’t know about the FA’s and APU but don’t most airlines have some sort of costing they type into the FMC and get a speed from that depending on the day?
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Yeah, doesn't mean you have to use it. We're late almost every day so costing on the Q goes out the window we're allowed to try to make up time in cruise if the fuel works.
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I'll be the first one to say that the Westjet group is NOT what it was 10 years ago, and in fact many people are pissed so much that the flood gates have opened on people leaving.

That said, the programming on the system that is in the Q has made even the Jazz pilots that come over envious. Also, the cost index app looks at all parameters including OTP. If you are running behind schedule, it'll tell you to speed up.
Lightchop wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:39 pm Yeah, doesn't mean you have to use it. We're late almost every day so costing on the Q goes out the window we're allowed to try to make up time in cruise if the fuel works.
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Lightchop wrote: Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:39 pm Yeah, doesn't mean you have to use it. We're late almost every day so costing on the Q goes out the window we're allowed to try to make up time in cruise if the fuel works.
https://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/j ... 09791.html
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