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The Air Canada OTS thread
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Any word on what slots were offered for the most recent class?
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Latest newsletter from the head shed is saying they expect to hire 450 in 2019.
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By 2020 the average Air Canada pilot will only have 7 years service with the Company. I suppose that means that if you have 8 years service in 2020 you are in the top half of the seniority list.
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As many as 500 this year and 400 next year. Then tapering off to around 200 a year after that. Air Georgian pilots will likely make up a large portion of the classes for the beginning of the year. If they meet the requirements.
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Having minimal seniority spread sucks, and will suck more with time.
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Here the latest bulletin from the VP of flight ops
Cheers
FLIGHT OPERATIONS NEWS
This last year was a busy year in which we hired 453 pilots and we anticipate hiring
the same amount this year. I am often asked what we look for in new hire pilots. We
like some education and that they come from a good flying school with good practical
experience in the industry. We also prefer pilots who have come through our regional
airlines as they are the closest match to our operation and SOPs. But we do also hire
approximately 20% for other airlines and organizations.
The most important thing we look for is a pilot who wants to work here, respects the
job, respects the profession and appreciates the tremendous opportunity they have
been given here due to the hard work of the pilots and all employees who have and
still work at Air Canada. Our present success is due to this hard work and to continue
in this direction everyone needs to understand our past and understand our future.
Each new pilot also needs to understand and appreciate this.
Our training department is working at 120% and we are doing simulator sessions in
YYZ, YVR, FRA, LGW and MIA. This will continue during the rest of the Spring and then
start up again in the Fall for our existing crews and we will continue training new hires
during the summer.
Cheers
FLIGHT OPERATIONS NEWS
This last year was a busy year in which we hired 453 pilots and we anticipate hiring
the same amount this year. I am often asked what we look for in new hire pilots. We
like some education and that they come from a good flying school with good practical
experience in the industry. We also prefer pilots who have come through our regional
airlines as they are the closest match to our operation and SOPs. But we do also hire
approximately 20% for other airlines and organizations.
The most important thing we look for is a pilot who wants to work here, respects the
job, respects the profession and appreciates the tremendous opportunity they have
been given here due to the hard work of the pilots and all employees who have and
still work at Air Canada. Our present success is due to this hard work and to continue
in this direction everyone needs to understand our past and understand our future.
Each new pilot also needs to understand and appreciate this.
Our training department is working at 120% and we are doing simulator sessions in
YYZ, YVR, FRA, LGW and MIA. This will continue during the rest of the Spring and then
start up again in the Fall for our existing crews and we will continue training new hires
during the summer.
At least it'll be warm in hell...
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Does anyone know the most recent retirement estimates on a yearly basis?
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What you need to know is 453 were hired in 2018.
Forecast of 400 2019 400 2020 and 200 2021, as expansion slows/stops around that timeline.
The music will slow down..
Forecast of 400 2019 400 2020 and 200 2021, as expansion slows/stops around that timeline.
The music will slow down..
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They haven’t been announced yet, but based on the number of unnamed new hires in the training forecast, between now and the start of March...
24 A320
8 Rouge 767
4 EMJ
3 B737
1 B787RP
They should have the official list by Friday.
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Ok, thanks. I'm always curious what they offer each course.AOW wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:01 amThey haven’t been announced yet, but based on the number of unnamed new hires in the training forecast, between now and the start of March...
24 A320
8 Rouge 767
4 EMJ
3 B737
1 B787RP
They should have the official list by Friday.
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Lots of variety in the PIT course that started this week, hiring from 21 different organizations, 34 of 36 new hires were OTS. Not much representation from the express carriers (1 Jazz and 1 Sky).
Encore - 7
RCAF - 6
Westjet - 3
Sunwing - 2
Porter - 2
Other - 16
Other carriers had one new hire each: Jazz, Sky, Swoop, Emirates, Voyageur, Provincial, Cargojet, Canadian North, Bearskin, Pacific Coastal, Perimeter, Summit Air, London Air Service, Bombardier, Carson Air, Corporate.
Encore - 7
RCAF - 6
Westjet - 3
Sunwing - 2
Porter - 2
Other - 16
Other carriers had one new hire each: Jazz, Sky, Swoop, Emirates, Voyageur, Provincial, Cargojet, Canadian North, Bearskin, Pacific Coastal, Perimeter, Summit Air, London Air Service, Bombardier, Carson Air, Corporate.
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I would have expected a lot more from team teal (and pink) given the typical experience of those pilots, and the turmoil going on there.
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With the new Jazz contract, I expect hiring from team teal to slow down. 60% min of all hiring at AC must come from Jazz now. OTS is going to get a lot more competitive, that's for sure.goingnowherefast wrote: ↑Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:52 pm I would have expected a lot more from team teal (and pink) given the typical experience of those pilots, and the turmoil going on there.
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That goal post is on wheels!V1Vr wrote: ↑Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:05 pmWith the new Jazz contract, I expect hiring from team teal to slow down. 60% min of all hiring at AC must come from Jazz now. OTS is going to get a lot more competitive, that's for sure.goingnowherefast wrote: ↑Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:52 pm I would have expected a lot more from team teal (and pink) given the typical experience of those pilots, and the turmoil going on there.
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I was interested to see 2 Captains out of Sunwing joining... from what I read on another thread I thought they were paid and treated better than Air Canada Captains?Data Printer wrote: ↑Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:47 pm Lots of variety in the PIT course that started this week, hiring from 21 different organizations, 34 of 36 new hires were OTS. Not much representation from the express carriers (1 Jazz and 1 Sky).
Encore - 7
RCAF - 6
Westjet - 3
Sunwing - 2
Porter - 2
Other - 16
Other carriers had one new hire each: Jazz, Sky, Swoop, Emirates, Voyageur, Provincial, Cargojet, Canadian North, Bearskin, Pacific Coastal, Perimeter, Summit Air, London Air Service, Bombardier, Carson Air, Corporate.
Anyway, it's great to see such a diverse background in the group of professionals joining. Congrats!
I believe after this big burst, we will see a continuation of hiring in the range of 100/year going forward, barring a recession or event causing a pullback/reduction. In the scope of the past, AC even running a few courses a year kept the music playing in this business... it might not be as blaringly loud as it currently is though... 1500 over 4 years... wow...JoeyBarton wrote: ↑Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:19 pm What you need to know is 453 were hired in 2018.
Forecast of 400 2019 400 2020 and 200 2021, as expansion slows/stops around that timeline.
The music will slow down..
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Maybe they were West coast or YVR commuters and wanted a better lifestyle ? Sunwing senior FOs have a very great lifestyle but Jr Capt could be a much more of a hardship if you're commuting. Or maybe they envy the long haul lifestyle ?I was interested to see 2 Captains out of Sunwing joining... from what I read on another thread I thought they were paid and treated better than Air Canada Captains?
Anyway, it's great to see such a diverse background in the group of professionals joining. Congrats!
In twenty years time when your kids ask how you got into flying you want to be able to say "work and determination" not "I just kept taking money from your grandparents for type ratings until someone was stupid enough to give me a job"
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