Fully ready
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Fully ready
I quite often hear BA say they are fully ready. Is there a difference between ready and fully ready. I would have thought your either ready or your not ready
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Maybe they are just emphasizing the fact that they are ready.
Kind of like the “positive climb” call, isn’t a climb by it’s very nature positive? If it were negative it would be a descent.
Kind of like the “positive climb” call, isn’t a climb by it’s very nature positive? If it were negative it would be a descent.
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It's an LHR thing.
To push there you don't call for push and start you call fully ready when your before start checks are complete and your groundcrew is in position.
Eventually they let you push and they don't want you blocking the lane and taxi ways for very long.
To push there you don't call for push and start you call fully ready when your before start checks are complete and your groundcrew is in position.
Eventually they let you push and they don't want you blocking the lane and taxi ways for very long.
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Sounds like they should implement that for Gates 39-42 at YVRSharklasers wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:33 am It's an LHR thing.
To push there you don't call for push and start you call fully ready when your before start checks are complete and your groundcrew is in position.
Eventually they let you push and they don't want you blocking the lane and taxi ways for very long.
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Sounds like what a friend once told me - “It’s not wrong. It’s just British....”
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Positive climb is airbus
Always fly a stable approach - it's the only stability you'll find in this business
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It’s not just a British thing. It’s all around Asia too. In Hong Kong where you have to call fully ready to get in the departure queue. If there’s significant flow control for a destination, your time waiting for a slot doesn’t start until you call “fully ready.”. Sometimes once you make this call they inform you your departure time is in 4 hrs . Some of us cheat a bit if we know there’s flow control in effect, and we will call fully ready before the pax have even boarded.Sharklasers wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:33 am It's an LHR thing.
To push there you don't call for push and start you call fully ready when your before start checks are complete and your groundcrew is in position.
Eventually they let you push and they don't want you blocking the lane and taxi ways for very long.
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On a portable radio from the bar?
As an AvCanada discussion grows longer:
-the probability of 'entitlement' being mentioned, approaches 1
-one will be accused of using bad airmanship
-the probability of 'entitlement' being mentioned, approaches 1
-one will be accused of using bad airmanship
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But couldn’t you just call ready. Isn’t that the same
I heard “it’s not broken, it’s British”
I heard “it’s not broken, it’s British”
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Once in Yqb we called ready short 29 just waiting on the back... atc answered well you aren’t “fully ready” hold short... so rude!
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They aren't wrong. They'd clear you to depart and you'd still be waiting on the back end. I'm sure that'd go over great in yul or yyz.kilocharliemike wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 7:00 pm Once in Yqb we called ready short 29 just waiting on the back... atc answered well you aren’t “fully ready” hold short... so rude!
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Too funny. If you’re waiting on the back end, you’re not ready.FL007 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 7:05 pmThey aren't wrong. They'd clear you to depart and you'd still be waiting on the back end. I'm sure that'd go over great in yul or yyz.kilocharliemike wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 7:00 pm Once in Yqb we called ready short 29 just waiting on the back... atc answered well you aren’t “fully ready” hold short... so rude!
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Then there's "Pre-flight planning..."
Used when I was in the military. Believe it came up from south of the border.
Used when I was in the military. Believe it came up from south of the border.
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I think most would agree, there’s lots of unprofessional, cutesy pie lingo in North American R/T to be overly smug about others R/T.
Odd that we understand what “PD to 4” is, yet it’s use is rarely , if ever, called out. How about “level three-five-oh”? Our Canadian R/T manual says the number “0” is pronounced “zero”, not “oh”. In fact, we learned in primary school the difference between numbers and letters but there you go. Professionalism is not just a state of mind for some.
So, why call out the difference between ready and fully ready when it is clearly understood?
Check out the UK CAA’s CAP-403, Chapter 4, Aerodrome Phraseology 4.21 if you need clarity.
It would be a good read for many Canadian pilots. Especially for those who haven’t flown outside this country (or North America).
Odd that we understand what “PD to 4” is, yet it’s use is rarely , if ever, called out. How about “level three-five-oh”? Our Canadian R/T manual says the number “0” is pronounced “zero”, not “oh”. In fact, we learned in primary school the difference between numbers and letters but there you go. Professionalism is not just a state of mind for some.
So, why call out the difference between ready and fully ready when it is clearly understood?
Check out the UK CAA’s CAP-403, Chapter 4, Aerodrome Phraseology 4.21 if you need clarity.
It would be a good read for many Canadian pilots. Especially for those who haven’t flown outside this country (or North America).