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Re registering grass strip.

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Hello all. My names Steve and am new to this forum. I have been using grass strip , was registererd in the past. New Liskeard , Ontario. CPX3. In the process of buying this property and possibly register it again. Was hoping someone might have older CFS. Or PDF of this cfs page. I had it on ForeFlight. Then When owners closed it, it was removed from cfs. Any tips /tricks to register and/ or cfs page would be helpful and a jumpstart on registry. Thanks.
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How far back was it an active airport in the CFS?
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Just took a look in a CFS I had laying around from 2014 and it wasn’t there so it must’ve been a while ago
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No big deal to register. Contact your local tc office. They will send you forms and ask for pictures. Fill them out. After about 5 months they will forward the info to navcanada. Another 6-9 months for publication. Then you wait for the next cycle for it to be published on cfs and vnc.

That is how it went for me, in a rural area. I assume if you want to do this around for example toronto city it will be harder.

Note this is registration only. Not certification.
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I started my ppl end of 2012, pretty sure it was in then. What’s the difference in registering and certified airstrip?
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If it's "certified" then it becomes an airport, and you can fly scheduled air services from there. FIgure on $100,000 of upgrades and paperwork, and a couple of years of work.
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CPX3 was pulled from the CFS in 2009.
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Drat. Oldest I have is 2016, although I have a BC-only from 2003.
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The rules surrounding aerodrome registration have changed significantly over the last few years.

Due to pressure from municipalities, it is now necessary to do public consultations and environmental assessment prior to registration, depending on the location.

http://www.gazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p2/2016/ ... 1-eng.html
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Bede wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:28 am The rules surrounding aerodrome registration have changed significantly over the last few years.

Due to pressure from municipalities, it is now necessary to do public consultations and environmental assessment prior to registration, depending on the location.

http://www.gazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p2/2016/ ... 1-eng.html
I was under the impression the rules for consultation etc apply only if you have to perform work to build your aerodrome. The OP already has an aerodrome and is only looking to register an existing aerodrome. I do not think the new rules apply in this situation.
aerodrome work means work, other than work necessary to comply with a new requirement imposed by or under the Act, carried out for any of the following purposes:

(a) building a new aerodrome; or
(b) at an existing aerodrome,
(i) building a new runway for aeroplanes, or
(ii) increasing the length of an existing runway for aeroplanes by 100 m or by 10%, whichever is greater. (travaux d’aérodrome)
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Bede wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:28 am The rules surrounding aerodrome registration have changed significantly over the last few years.

Due to pressure from municipalities, it is now necessary to do public consultations and environmental assessment prior to registration, depending on the location.

http://www.gazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p2/2016/ ... 1-eng.html
Where does it say anything about environmental assessment?
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Sorry, I'm to lazy to find the reference. It was being proposed when I registered mine. I got my registration in just before the rules came into force.

Of course I could be imagining things....
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I'm imagining owning an airstrip. Seems nice in my head. It might as well be on a nice island while I'm at it.
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Beefitarian wrote: Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:34 am I'm imagining owning an airstrip. Seems nice in my head. It might as well be on a nice island while I'm at it.
Everyone I know who has their own strip spends more time cutting grass and plowing snow than flying :cry:

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How difficult/expensive to maintain is a gravel strip?
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photofly wrote: Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:13 am How difficult/expensive to maintain is a gravel strip?
You need a snowblower for winterops and a grader for summer ops if it sees regular use. In spring you can see holes and bumps.

But for the cost of all the gravel and installation, you are probably better off getting a grass strip and pay a guy for cutting and blowing. Or go really nuts and go for asphalt or concrete.
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If you use gravel, might as well add budget for new props too!
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C-GKNT wrote: Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:07 am
Beefitarian wrote: Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:34 am I'm imagining owning an airstrip. Seems nice in my head. It might as well be on a nice island while I'm at it.
Everyone I know who has their own strip spends more time cutting grass and plowing snow than flying :cry:

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Lol. so true!
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Bede wrote: Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:49 pm
C-GKNT wrote: Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:07 am
Beefitarian wrote: Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:34 am I'm imagining owning an airstrip. Seems nice in my head. It might as well be on a nice island while I'm at it.
Everyone I know who has their own strip spends more time cutting grass and plowing snow than flying :cry:

Glenn
Lol. so true!
But isn't that the whole point? Enjoying your runway while you are mowing it or snowblowing it? It sure is cheaper than flying your plane :mrgreen:
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Everyone I know without their own strip spend far more time driving to and from the airport than I spend snow blowing or cutting....
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