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An open letter to posters

Post by just curious »

N2, charlie_g, bizjet_mania Et Al

As a rule, your posts are balanced, informative, and occaisionally witty. Most of the time, I read them with interest.

You doubtless have noticed that I have editted a few of your posts today, and removed several other's posts. Please note that I didn't edit in anger, having made the same sort of posts myself, in similar circumstances.

Allow me to explain why, and why I would not hesitate to do so again.

The YWG Accident
  • The TSB will investigate this and publish first, their initial findings, and then their final report with the recommendations for TC to implement
  • Prior to this, speculation will impact not the TSB, but the readers of this forum. Not the average aviator in general aviation...but the media, the grieving friends and relatives, and contingency lawyers- representing various interests.
  • Posts generated out of anger are rarely worth reading, since they neither entertain nor inform. Much the same for posts which trott out familiar hobby horses. CID vs Cat come to mind, (although I feel both sides and have a certain perverse facination with their battles)
  • A new, virulent racist poster was also editted deleted and banned this morning in a separate matter from the YWG accident. Posts from this user could, unchecked have seen the forum owner named in a resulting suit
This forum provides relief from stress, occaisional laughs, mild entertainment, and information and opportunity for those who have no other source.

I do not care to see it used as fodder for frivolous lawsuits, or as a source of additional grief and pain for people close to the unfortunate woman involved.

Since I am a general Aviation pilot, with very high time, I am actuarily unlikely. Should I thunder in someday, I would hate to see my wife reading a great deal of unfounded speculation about my demise. Try, in future, to temper your posts on these tragic days, bearing mind the feelings of your own families in similar circumstances.

There will of course be speculation in this as in any other accident. It will likely be found rght here. But not today. If you search previous posts over the last two years, I believe you will find threads touching on the very things mentioned today.

I'm off to work on contract for a few months, and will be absent from the board, which will no doubt relieve some of you. I would like to think there will be a forum left to return to.
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Post by bizjet_mania »

My apologies.
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Post by Bede »

Some people want answers (even if not complete or accurate) as part of the greiving process. I lost a firend 3 days ago (not flying), and trying to find out what happened, even if a small detail helps the process moving along. Not finding out for a year, while the TSB does their thing, and being totally clueless as to what happened, probably doesn't help the process move along for the friends of this pilot.
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Post by just curious »

Biz,
Like I said, I wasn't bent when I editted, I've made similar posts in similar circumstances.
And Bede... Sorry for the loss of your friend. I wasn't suggesting that tis won't be discussed, and in detail, its simply a matter of appropriate timing.
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Post by Canus Chinookus »

so what's an appropriate time period?
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Post by grouchy »

"so what's an appropriate time period?"

Surely not the day of.
At least wait till after the funeral before speculating, if you have to.
I think it would be a common courtesy thing.
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Post by cyyz »

grouchy wrote:"so what's an appropriate time period?"

Surely not the day of.
At least wait till after the funeral before speculating, if you have to.
I think it would be a common courtesy thing.
Use your judgement. But if you wanted to post a thread about "single pilot ifr in a 208... rant rant rant" you should do so in a new thread, but even then, lol, content(what/how it's said) would make it appropriate.. And some people would still think "lowely" of "you," and even then some moderaters might erase it...

But yeah, "guestXX" comments, weren't quite appropriate...
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Post by Ireton »

Im sorry, I just had to put in my two cents. Hope I dont stir the pot too much.

Curious, its funny that you're censoring, editing, jumping all over .. whatever .. these guys while in another post regarding an incident about a week ago, there is sheer speculation and not a single comment regarding condolences.

http://www.avcanada.ca/forums2/viewtopic.php?t=11343

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Post by Doc »

Ireton....I went to that thread, and I couldn't find a comment by Just Curious anywhere. You dont think JC, or any of us has the time to read and edit, and/or police every thread on the web wite, do you?? You have way too much time on our hand? Some of us actually have jobs!
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Post by Pachanga »

Doc wrote:Ireton....I went to that thread, and I couldn't find a comment by Just Curious anywhere.
That was his point.
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Post by Right Seat Captain »

Let's say there's an accident. A pilot dies. Later that day you go to the family's house, and you tell them about how their aircraft shouldn't have been flying through the sky, this that and the other thing. Probably not a good idea, right?

Well guess what, you're posting your comments on a forum that is visible by the entire world, and specifically, those related to aviation in this country, which as I'm sure you've all noticed, is a pretty small world. Your comments will be read who closely related to the person involved in this accident. You are doing no better than telling the grieving mother, wife, children that you have all these theories why they went down.

Truth of the matter is, you don't know enough to be commenting. As we have all seen in the media, there's enough incorrect information going around as it is, there's no reason to propogate it. When those who are grieving have grieved, then perhaps will be the time to discuss in more detail.
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Post by bizjet_mania »

Well I wasnt commenting, I simply had asked a question because I knew the day before there was a snow storm and wanted to know what the weather conditions were. Thats all, I never mentioned something I had heard or thought to have happened.
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