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Any advice for a low Multi guy who has been given the opportunity to fly FO on the Metroliner?
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I’d say it depends on which company you’re flying said Metro for!
There are decent and some not so decent operators of the Metro out there.
There are decent and some not so decent operators of the Metro out there.
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Thanks.indieadventurer wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2020 5:13 pm I’d say it depends on which company you’re flying said Metro for!
There are decent and some not so decent operators of the Metro out there.
I was wondering about passing the PPC first. First turbine and two crew.
Any inputs are appreciated.
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I rode that Baltimore Bitch (skinny wings, no visible means of support) for years...
San-Antonio Sewer Pipes are more to handle than a Beech and loud as shit. If ever an Aeroplane was designed by clowns, it's the
Texas Lawn Dart...
BUT...
Many have done it before - low time no time wannabe to FO on the Death Pencil - so it's certainly doable. There have been a lot of airline careers in Canada built driving The Screamin' Weenie.
If a job on That noisy ****ing thing suits your needs and is a step up for you there isn't anything wrong with the Widow Maker, it is what it is... maybe a half shit job and good experience riding the Sweatro through a summer or 2...
Good luck.
San-Antonio Sewer Pipes are more to handle than a Beech and loud as shit. If ever an Aeroplane was designed by clowns, it's the
Texas Lawn Dart...
BUT...
Many have done it before - low time no time wannabe to FO on the Death Pencil - so it's certainly doable. There have been a lot of airline careers in Canada built driving The Screamin' Weenie.
If a job on That noisy ****ing thing suits your needs and is a step up for you there isn't anything wrong with the Widow Maker, it is what it is... maybe a half shit job and good experience riding the Sweatro through a summer or 2...
Good luck.
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I highly recommend flying the metro. It will make you a great pilot.
Hand flying a fast aircraft, with no Autopilot, will be one of the most challenging, and funnest experiences of your entire life.
I used to fly the Metro, and I miss it almost everyday. The most fun I ever had in an airplane, was while I flew the metro.
But as a previous poster said, it fully depends on who you working for. I would rate metro operators on this scale:
Best
- Sunwest
- Bearskin
(Owned by Perimeter, operated separately, not sure how
much longer)
- Perimeter
- PAL
Not Awful, But not Great - Carson Air
Avoid at all costs - Skycare
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Hand flying a fast aircraft, with no Autopilot, will be one of the most challenging, and funnest experiences of your entire life.
I used to fly the Metro, and I miss it almost everyday. The most fun I ever had in an airplane, was while I flew the metro.
But as a previous poster said, it fully depends on who you working for. I would rate metro operators on this scale:
Best
- Sunwest
- Bearskin
(Owned by Perimeter, operated separately, not sure how
much longer)
- Perimeter
- PAL
Not Awful, But not Great - Carson Air
Avoid at all costs - Skycare
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LOL... only time PAL has ever been categorized "best"... Perimeter too for that matter.
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I’d take it for sure. Challenging plane yes but it’ll build your skills. I’ve never met a bad metro pilot. Just make sure you double up on the ear pro.
In twenty years time when your kids ask how you got into flying you want to be able to say "work and determination" not "I just kept taking money from your grandparents for type ratings until someone was stupid enough to give me a job"
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Thank you guys for all the comments about the Sweatro (loved all the names for this girl Altiplano)
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Don’t forget my personal favourite, the Turbo Dildo.skybluetrek wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:16 am Thank you guys for all the comments about the Sweatro (loved all the names for this girl Altiplano)
It’s a challenging machine but you won’t regret flying it. Hand bombing fast turbo props will be the most enjoyable flying experience of your career. Everything after that is about lifestyle. Make smart choices. If you feel uncomfortable, speak up. You’ll find more often than not people will listen to you when you raise concerns.
Embrace the chaos of your early career and you’ll have fond memories to look back upon.
PR
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Lol! That's a great one too.PositiveRate27 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 10:02 amDon’t forget my personal favourite, the Turbo Dildo.skybluetrek wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:16 am Thank you guys for all the comments about the Sweatro (loved all the names for this girl Altiplano)
It’s a challenging machine but you won’t regret flying it. Hand bombing fast turbo props will be the most enjoyable flying experience of your career. Everything after that is about lifestyle. Make smart choices. If you feel uncomfortable, speak up. You’ll find more often than not people will listen to you when you raise concerns.
Embrace the chaos of your early career and you’ll have fond memories to look back upon.
PR
Thanks for your 2 cents, really good/useful reply.
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The real question is: do you have a choice?
As an AvCanada discussion grows longer:
-the probability of 'entitlement' being mentioned, approaches 1
-one will be accused of using bad airmanship
-the probability of 'entitlement' being mentioned, approaches 1
-one will be accused of using bad airmanship
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Depends on how many other job offers you have. Metro would certantly not look as good as some other types.
Job priority should go something like this:
Safety
Schedule
Pay
City (base)
Aircraft type
Career progression
So does the company have a good safe reputation? Is the schedule compatable with your lifestyle? They better pay well. Can you see yourself enjoying life there (is it commutable, see schedule?). Now we've made our way to aircraft type, although a 747 is safer than a 150, so the line can blurr a bit. Career progression will happen whether you plan it or not, so don't worry much about that, just gotta get that ATPL.
Job priority should go something like this:
Safety
Schedule
Pay
City (base)
Aircraft type
Career progression
So does the company have a good safe reputation? Is the schedule compatable with your lifestyle? They better pay well. Can you see yourself enjoying life there (is it commutable, see schedule?). Now we've made our way to aircraft type, although a 747 is safer than a 150, so the line can blurr a bit. Career progression will happen whether you plan it or not, so don't worry much about that, just gotta get that ATPL.
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I agree, safety #1...
The rest? I kinda disagree... but to each their own.
Assuming everything equal, I'd take the Metro over the PC12, especially so if it's a Metro 3 or Metro 23.
Good luck, first turbine is pretty exciting!
The rest? I kinda disagree... but to each their own.
Assuming everything equal, I'd take the Metro over the PC12, especially so if it's a Metro 3 or Metro 23.
Good luck, first turbine is pretty exciting!
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Metro all the way then! Twin turbine is better for most career paths.
As an AvCanada discussion grows longer:
-the probability of 'entitlement' being mentioned, approaches 1
-one will be accused of using bad airmanship
-the probability of 'entitlement' being mentioned, approaches 1
-one will be accused of using bad airmanship
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Thanks. Helpful to think things through. I also agree on safety being N°1.Job priority should go something like this:
Safety
Schedule
Pay
City (base)
Aircraft type
Career progression
So does the company have a good safe reputation? Is the schedule compatable with your lifestyle? They better pay well. Can you see yourself enjoying life there (is it commutable, see schedule?). Now we've made our way to aircraft type, although a 747 is safer than a 150, so the line can blurr a bit. Career progression will happen whether you plan it or not, so don't worry much about that, just gotta get that ATPL.
Not necessarily equal, although I'm still keen on the Metro 3. Exciting times ahead for sure.Assuming everything equal, I'd take the Metro over the PC12, especially so if it's a Metro 3 or Metro 23.
Good luck, first turbine is pretty exciting!
That's my view as well. I just didn't want to bite more than I can chew.Metro all the way then! Twin turbine is better for most career paths
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It’ll teach you how to trim thats for sure. Tends to be a bit pitchy from what i know. Its gonna be fast at first. Drinking from the firehose as they say. You will fall behind from time to time. A good training program/ good captains can help you through it. Wouldn't worry too much about it.
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