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digits_ wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 1:56 pm
CL-Skadoo! wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 1:36 pm
Or, you know...Air Canada Suspends Flights to Beijing, Shanghai
Would that be because of the corona virus, or is it merely an excuse to cancel flights so they have more planes available to temporarily replace the 737 max?
I doubt Cathay, American and British Airways would use that same excuse.
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Cathay doesn’t have any MAXs, their fleet is entirely wide bodies.
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jpilot77 wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 2:03 pm Cathay doesn’t have any MAXs, their fleet is entirely wide bodies.
Yes, I am aware. Hence the reason for the cancellations being virus related.
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I was responding to digits_
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digits_ wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 1:56 pm
CL-Skadoo! wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 1:36 pm
Or, you know...Air Canada Suspends Flights to Beijing, Shanghai
Would that be because of the corona virus, or is it merely an excuse to cancel flights so they have more planes available to temporarily replace the 737 max?
Digits_, you are suggesting that AC would willingly pull widebody aircraft off very profitable routes, in order to replace far cheaper narrow body aircraft on far less profitable routes. In other words lose money in order to lose money. I've seen airlines do it, but not on the scale you suggest and certainly not for the reason you suggest.
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ahramin wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 2:35 pm
digits_ wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 1:56 pm
CL-Skadoo! wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 1:36 pm

Or, you know...Air Canada Suspends Flights to Beijing, Shanghai
Would that be because of the corona virus, or is it merely an excuse to cancel flights so they have more planes available to temporarily replace the 737 max?
Digits_, you are suggesting that AC would willingly pull widebody aircraft off very profitable routes, in order to replace far cheaper narrow body aircraft on far less profitable routes. In other words lose money in order to lose money. I've seen airlines do it, but not on the scale you suggest and certainly not for the reason you suggest.
I have no idea what the most profitable routes are on the AC network, that is why I was asking. It would be one way to deal with the "plane shortage" without losing face if you wish. A lot of operators are scrambling to find planes. If not to use them themselves, maybe to lease them out to other operators. Just curious.
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China is shutting down. Chatted to a friend who lives in a city far, far away from the epicentre, says it's a ghost town.
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I've heard the same. We're getting suppliers emailing with several weeks delay starting up again after the holiday.
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Hardly a surprise:-

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ ... iddle-east

The chart in the article showing a projection of the number of cases/deaths shows how this could develop.

https://www.zerohedge.com/health/thai-g ... oronavirus

Finally some honesty! What people need to understand is that it is too late to stop the spread of this virus.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ ... pped-wuhan

This will decimate Aviation imho. Travel bans are only going to increase and people will cancel their travel plans.
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as the great Kent Brockman once said,
"it's in Revelations people !"

P.S. I think its the Illuminati.
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Eric Janson wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 7:45 pm Hardly a surprise:-

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ ... iddle-east

The chart in the article showing a projection of the number of cases/deaths shows how this could develop.

https://www.zerohedge.com/health/thai-g ... oronavirus

Finally some honesty! What people need to understand is that it is too late to stop the spread of this virus.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ ... pped-wuhan

This will decimate Aviation imho. Travel bans are only going to increase and people will cancel their travel plans.
I'm sorry but the first article is so full of shit. 52 million infections with over 1 million deaths in less then a month from today? Yea, ok... if that were the case, and we keep multiplying those numbers, the death rate will be worse then plague... Media and people really need to relax a little
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Zero Hedge isn’t exactly known for its sensical reporting...
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twa22 wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:52 pm
Eric Janson wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 7:45 pm Hardly a surprise:-

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ ... iddle-east

The chart in the article showing a projection of the number of cases/deaths shows how this could develop.

https://www.zerohedge.com/health/thai-g ... oronavirus

Finally some honesty! What people need to understand is that it is too late to stop the spread of this virus.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ ... pped-wuhan

This will decimate Aviation imho. Travel bans are only going to increase and people will cancel their travel plans.
I'm sorry but the first article is so full of shit. 52 million infections with over 1 million deaths in less then a month from today? Yea, ok... if that were the case, and we keep multiplying those numbers, the death rate will be worse then plague... Media and people really need to relax a little
And if we extrapolate a bit further, one month later the infections will exceed the population of earth! :smt119

Also nice to know a reporter claims to have evidence the chinese are lying. If that's the case, publish the evidence and cut out the middle man.
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I clicked on those links, and immediately wondered what kind of bullshit I was reading. Even a fraction of their prediction(s) would have a marked effect on the world economy - actually, it'd probably bring economic collapse in short order. As for the "Chinese are lying commie POS" trope, seriously people come up with something new - it's standard fair these days, lying governments, conspiracy theories, etc...

What makes me laugh, are all the people who claim they know... or they have evidence... of this great government conspiracy; sure they're the only one who knows or has evidence, but it's irrefutable! Of course, all these trolls never actually bother to post anything even remotely resembling evidence of anything; other than the fact that they are a troll and most likely non compos mentis.
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It's a bad cold.

If only like 170 people have died in a population-choked place like China then it can't be that serious.
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I hope everyone enjoys the seat they're in
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It’ll pass. SARS was a different situation. Right after 9/11 and AC was already in the red. Since then we’ve had Ebola. Swine flu, Zika virus etc. I don’t think this will be causing all hiring to grind to a halt. Not helping things but the media likes to blow everything out of proportion. Think of how many more people have died from car accidents or other things in the past month. The common flu kills many more.
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AA pilots to decline China flights:
https://www.forexlive.com/news/!/americ ... a-20200131
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I’m not into hysteria, but this thing is just ramping up.

SARS lasted about 6 months.
About 8,000 were infected.
About 800 people died.
People with SARS only spread the virus when they showed symptoms.
It spread to a little over 24 different countries.
The financial impact on the Global economy was said to be about 30 Billion dollars.

This nCoV has only been active for about a month now.
About 8,000 confirmed cases.
About 200 confirmed deaths so far.
There are confirmed cases in every region of Mainland China.
In one month, it’s already been detected in 15 countries.
It’s most contagious when people aren’t even showing symptoms.
Young people and children have tested positive and are spreading the virus while showing NO symptoms.
China is pretty much shuttered right now.
MAJOR manufacturers and foreign businesses operating in China are shutting down like dominoes.
Global impact is guaranteed.
I could go on.
These are just a few of the facts.

This is hardly “just another flu”.
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