Swoop Terrain Warning

[altiplano]

You realize this entire conversation has been in regards to RADAR controlled airspace, right?

Deciding on your own to just turn direct somewhere in a terminal environment because you were cleared an approach while on the STAR isn't reasonable either. You acknowledge that the controller wouldn't have cleared them direct because they were below his MRVA, so why did they do that? You acknowledge they weren't on vectors... so if you're going to try to cut the corner on your own, you better have your own terrain.

Clearly.

Doesn't change the fact that, just because you're in radar airspace with a terminal controller, you aren't absolved for your own responsibility for terrain separation unless on vectors.

And who just turns direct the fix on their own without a clearance?

[AuxBatOn]

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[Canadianjetpilot]

Swoop has now had it's 3rd terrain incident into YXX.

Thats three in just 6 weeks.

WTF are they doing over there??

[daedalusx]

Swoop has now had it's 3rd terrain incident into YXX.

Thats three in just 6 weeks.

WTF are they doing over there??

https://wwwapps.tc.gc.ca/Saf-Sec-Sur/2/ ... d2020P0064


Wow ...

[ahramin]

That last doesn't say it was a terrain warning, just an ATC assigned altitude. The way NavCanada clears you for a STAR can be confusing to foreign pilots. In most of the world, a clearance for a STAR is both horizontal and vertical. If Whoops is foreign pilots, they should probably provide some training on the many particularities of NavCanada.