Jazz to launch pay for type rating program

[Oxi]

Oh great.

Is he going to try to mentor people in the flight deck?

I thought the 10% would work!

Based on looking at the new hire bios from time to time and seeing some faces I hoped I'd never see again, the %10 certainly isn't working. In fact it's somehow working backwards as some of the best FOs I worked with there who are nice people and good pilots are being PFOd or told to reinterview.

This has been happening since the PML and now some of these folks are going through ITC at AC

[losercruiser]

Just goes to show you how arbitrary the selection process is. There's a number who shouldn't be here but one individual in specific, I am absolutely shocked was hired. Based on their Jazz training record it should have been an auto PFO.

Either they lied in their interview, or multiple failed rides and upgrades don't actually matter. But I guess it helps when you fill a "type."

[PostmasterGeneral]

Just goes to show you how arbitrary the selection process is. There's a number who shouldn't be here but one individual in specific, I am absolutely shocked was hired. Based on their Jazz training record it should have been an auto PFO.

Either they lied in their interview, or multiple failed rides and upgrades don't actually matter. But I guess it helps when you fill a "type."

I doubt she will make it through training... Hopefully...

[TSAM]

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[daedalusx]

Just goes to show you how arbitrary the selection process is. There's a number who shouldn't be here but one individual in specific, I am absolutely shocked was hired. Based on their Jazz training record it should have been an auto PFO.

Either they lied in their interview, or multiple failed rides and upgrades don't actually matter. But I guess it helps when you fill a "type."

I doubt she will make it through training... Hopefully...

Or she’ll get paired with a strong pilot who’ll carry her ass through the initial, maybe with only 1-2 extra sessions and a strong worded debrief and then Indoc capts will carry her ass and then after a failed LC, get more Indoc and someone will pass her with ‘a strong debrief’ and then every capt will have to carry her ass around for god knows how long until rinse and repeat for the upgrade course. And of course, during the whole process, it’ll be everyone’s fault but her.
It’s so tiresome...

[losercruiser]

All the while dozens of friends who are superior aviators in every way are still sitting at Jazz, Encore and SW just hoping and waiting for an interview. Don't remind me. I swear if I ever have to fly with her again I'm going to lose my mind.

Or just book off.

I don't know how they manage to do it, but Jazz is really good at getting rid of their black sheep. They did it in PML 1.0 and they're doing it again now. AC HR needs to be more vigilant and save that %10 for people like this. And stop looking past big red flags just because they fit into the diversity hire catagory.

[losercruiser]

Speedah can't pm you.

[PostmasterGeneral]

Just goes to show you how arbitrary the selection process is. There's a number who shouldn't be here but one individual in specific, I am absolutely shocked was hired. Based on their Jazz training record it should have been an auto PFO.

Either they lied in their interview, or multiple failed rides and upgrades don't actually matter. But I guess it helps when you fill a "type."

I doubt she will make it through training... Hopefully...

Or she’ll get paired with a strong pilot who’ll carry her ass through the initial, maybe with only 1-2 extra sessions and a strong worded debrief and then Indoc capts will carry her ass and then after a failed LC, get more Indoc and someone will pass her with ‘a strong debrief’ and then every capt will have to carry her ass around for god knows how long until rinse and repeat for the upgrade course. And of course, during the whole process, it’ll be everyone’s fault but her.
It’s so tiresome...

She’s done that for every single ride she’s ever had either at Jazz or PAL... it’s never her fault, there’s always something else to blame. 5000+ hours of practice in passing the buck (allegedly) will get you that.

I will say that I have high hopes that the AC training will be fair and wash her out if she doesn’t make the cut, there’s been candidates much stronger than her let go in the last year for being unable to complete training.

[losercruiser]

Good.

It will open up a seat for someone that deserves it.

I can't believe she has 5000 hours. Goes to show an ATPL and hours in the logbook mean nothing.

[CB40]

Hello guys,

Reading the conversation about this program was very enlightening. I think both sides have very valid points. I have to admit that the scheme does look tempting, albeit a bit pricey.

I was just wondering if anyone was already hired through this program and what to expect.

Thanks in advance!

[FenderManDan]

Just goes to show you how arbitrary the selection process is. There's a number who shouldn't be here but one individual in specific, I am absolutely shocked was hired. Based on their Jazz training record it should have been an auto PFO.

Either they lied in their interview, or multiple failed rides and upgrades don't actually matter. But I guess it helps when you fill a "type."

I doubt she will make it through training... Hopefully...

If that individual fails, what then. Can she reaply? She could be feeding some people at home. Who knows.

[RRJetPilot]

Keeping the operation safe should be more important than diversity or if the individual needs to feed people at home. From what I’m seeing this individual has already had MANY additional sim sessions, a change in sim partners, and no end of training in sight.

[speedah]

Just goes to show you how arbitrary the selection process is. There's a number who shouldn't be here but one individual in specific, I am absolutely shocked was hired. Based on their Jazz training record it should have been an auto PFO.

Either they lied in their interview, or multiple failed rides and upgrades don't actually matter. But I guess it helps when you fill a "type."

I doubt she will make it through training... Hopefully...

If that individual fails, what then. Can she reaply? She could be feeding some people at home. Who knows.

Reapply where ? Jazz ?

[FL-280]

And who dresses that poorly for their first day at AC anyways? Jeeeez

[speedah]

And who dresses that poorly for their first day at AC anyways? Jeeeez

She failed out of training I believe

[vermont]

I hope one day people at AC will whine about me, since it means I actually got in

[Onesie]

Umm no one cares about you Vermont

[vermont]

Umm no one cares about you Vermont

lmao 3 posts on this site and 2 are about me!

[Daniel Cooper]

And who dresses that poorly for their first day at AC anyways? Jeeeez

I heard someone showed up in flip flops. Maybe it's the same person, I don't know.

[98 Corolla]

I heard someone showed up in flip flops. Maybe it's the same person, I don't know.

That was a different person. It happened a year or two ago. The company asked her(?) to start wearing more professional clothes to class and they wouldn't so they were let go.