Do they proofread? Or are they really only interested in ex-Snowbirds and F-16 drivers?Valid ATPL or IATRA;
3,500 hours total flying time;
1,000 hours multi-engine PIC;
2,500 hours Jet PIC
Customer service-oriented;
Ability to work under pressure.
I love job requirements like these...
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I love job requirements like these...
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I see no issue with their requirements. After all they are able to ask for whatever requirements they want!
Call me old school but you come off as being entitled imho!
TPC
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Your example drivers won't have much multi PIC.
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The only bogus thing about this add is saying that at 1000TT you’d be expected to be jet captain all the way until 3500 TT to log the 2500 jet pic requirement. Other then that, seems fair..
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I think that was his point... looking for 2500 jet PIC but only 1000 MPIC, means someone with 1500 single engine jet PIC.
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Ask and see what happens. They probably have somebody in mind, and need to justify their choice. This is common practice in aviation.
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It could happen theoretically. At 250 hours get into a small piston twin. At 500 multi pic go king air cpt medevac. At 1000 hours, if lucky, go jet pic for a crappy medevac operator. You might be slightly over the 3500 hours but you would be close. Round up or down the hours and you can probably match it.
As an AvCanada discussion grows longer:
-the probability of 'entitlement' being mentioned, approaches 1
-one will be accused of using bad airmanship
-the probability of 'entitlement' being mentioned, approaches 1
-one will be accused of using bad airmanship
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I think he means the 1000 mpic, but 2500 jet pic...
How many single engine jets are out there? ie.F-16 & Tutor comment.
It would be rare to see someone with 2500 jet, but only 1000 mpic, maybe you'd expect those numbers reversed.
But I think it's likely that this is just cut and paste from their insurance requirements.
How many single engine jets are out there? ie.F-16 & Tutor comment.
It would be rare to see someone with 2500 jet, but only 1000 mpic, maybe you'd expect those numbers reversed.
But I think it's likely that this is just cut and paste from their insurance requirements.
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True, but I've rarely seen anyone advertise for Jet multi PIC.
As an AvCanada discussion grows longer:
-the probability of 'entitlement' being mentioned, approaches 1
-one will be accused of using bad airmanship
-the probability of 'entitlement' being mentioned, approaches 1
-one will be accused of using bad airmanship
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It may seem a bit much in today's climate but companies can ask for whatever they want to filter out every joe blow trying to take advantage of the industry's rise in demand.
Now, what's absurd is someone asking for such requirements for a right seat on the PC-12 or King Air (I remember seeing an an ad here like that for a KA a few months ago).
MrA
Now, what's absurd is someone asking for such requirements for a right seat on the PC-12 or King Air (I remember seeing an an ad here like that for a KA a few months ago).
MrA
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Right because most of the time Jet PIC would be multi. That's why it's a strange requirement. 1000 MPIC would be inferred if you had 2500 Jet PIC, because the vast majority of jets are multis, thus the F-16/tutor comment... F-35s I guess... not a lot of jet singles, particularly in civilian roles.
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Oohh, now I see what you mean. Ok, good point, still waking up...
As an AvCanada discussion grows longer:
-the probability of 'entitlement' being mentioned, approaches 1
-one will be accused of using bad airmanship
-the probability of 'entitlement' being mentioned, approaches 1
-one will be accused of using bad airmanship
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You'd have to be born into that experience matrix. Parent owns a Fouga or a BD10 jet.
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F-18 counts as MPIC. Hawk & Tutor, if not a student, get the remaining 1500 jet PIC.
Nothing wrong with knowing what & who you want.
Nothing wrong with knowing what & who you want.
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TeePeeCreeper wrote: ↑Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:31 pmI see no issue with their requirements. After all they are able to ask for whatever requirements they want!
Call me old school but you come off as being entitled imho!
TPC
This person thinks everyone is "entitled". "Old School" isn't the right word for a guy like this.
Sure the post was a little snarky, but it was just opening a discussion. Isn't that what the forum is for?
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They probably are looking for an ex military guy, that matrix almost perfectly fit my flying hours when I retired from the military, a bit over 1000 hornet (MPIC), rest tutor and Hawk (Jet PIC).
They are allowed to look for that if that is what they want.
They are allowed to look for that if that is what they want.
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It's not nice I'm tooting my own horn, but I'm going to quote Digits' first law here: "As an AvCanada discussion grows longer the probability of 'entitlement' being mentioned, approaches 1"OneYonge wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 7:28 pmTeePeeCreeper wrote: ↑Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:31 pmI see no issue with their requirements. After all they are able to ask for whatever requirements they want!
Call me old school but you come off as being entitled imho!
TPC
This person thinks everyone is "entitled". "Old School" isn't the right word for a guy like this.
Sure the post was a little snarky, but it was just opening a discussion. Isn't that what the forum is for?
But even I was flabbergasted it happened in the first reply to the opening post...
As an AvCanada discussion grows longer:
-the probability of 'entitlement' being mentioned, approaches 1
-one will be accused of using bad airmanship
-the probability of 'entitlement' being mentioned, approaches 1
-one will be accused of using bad airmanship
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poor guy sounds jealous of younger folks making better decisions and getting better jobs costing them less than he did at lower hours tbh.