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The only thing that governments, thankfully not the Canadian government, are doing that could screw the airlines is making them repay the cancelled tickets instead of re-booking later down the road. That is a stupid decision.
People should be given an option of re-booking, ( Ideal ) a credit ( more than a year ) or a refund with a slight fee. Other countries have funds that the airlines pay into for such eventualities. ( Insurance scheme)

If you had paid $4000.00 in tickets and have lost your job or have no business and cannot get $$$ from the government , that extra $4000 would come in pretty handy to put food on the table!
Cops think of themselves, teachers think of themselves, airline employees think of themselves, time to grow up little ones!
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The latest bit of foolishness from Dr. Tam Tam and the misfits in Ottawa is ,,,,,,, Get going on those homemade masks folks ,,, it won't stop you from getting the virus but might stop your virus from infecting others !!! When will these Liars stop ! N95 or better ( Homemade is 40-60% effective ) masks are still a stopgap measure ( Have you ever seen the equipment they use in Ebola labs? ) Masks do a better job of stopping DROPLET size transmission as compared to the mask being used by the receiver to stop inhalation due to many factors. The only reason nurses and doctors use simple masks is that the rate of injury/death over the cost is good enough for the bean counters ! Having older Doctors in close proximity , working on patients , with only an N95 mask, gown and glasses is foolishness !!! Its equivalent to landing with your plane with 5 min. of fuel left on every flight and expecting never to run out of fuel !
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https://youtu.be/xjBO-E73zJ0

Imagine the $$$ lost in the pharma industry if this works well?? Maybe someone will be suicided?
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Studies of Chinese recovered patients are showing 1/3 of them ( mostly young) have not developed enough antibodies to fight a secondary infection! So much for the herd immunity idea! Any real Mutations will blow the herd immunity idea out the window !
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corethatthermal wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:43 pm Studies of Chinese recovered patients are showing 1/3 of them ( mostly young) have not developed enough antibodies to fight a secondary infection! So much for the herd immunity idea! Any real Mutations will blow the herd immunity idea out the window !
Quote the credible study. It doesn't exist.

That's not true. This isn't a super virus that doesn't respond like other viruses - ie. even Ebola survivors have antibodies - this is straight fear bullshit trying to suppress societal advancement in the wake of covid19.
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That's not true.


Lets re-visit that all-knowing statement in 30 days and see how much egg you may have on your face !
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The Chinese CCP ( along with help from the WHO ) has succeeded in weakening the whole world. China has already declared war on the USA and shall do everything in its power to obtain world dominance,,,,, you ain't seen nothing yet folks !
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corethatthermal wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 9:55 pm China has already declared war on the USA and shall do everything in its power to obtain world dominance,,,,, you ain't seen nothing yet folks !
Oh really? You wouldn't happen to have a reputable source for that? Formal declaration, under the 1907 Hague Convention? Anything from the UN?

That's right, there's nothing. You're just talking out of both sides of your face.
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Heliian wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 5:08 pm
mixturerich wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 12:33 pm
Heliian wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 8:11 am Once the pandemic has passed, the economies of the world will regain strength again.

In fact, there will be a massive surge trying to get back to normalcy.
What? Literally every economist out there is saying the complete opposite of you. A long and slow recovery. What suddenly makes you an expert on this?
Since none of us can see the future, I'm hedging my bets on a big scramble to get back to normal life.

One economist pegged it at 3 years, is that long?
I guess it’s all relative, but yeah with how short life really is, 3 years is a long time in my opinion. It’s a valuable amount of time, if you will. It’s not exactly chump change. When the economy is strong, people can accomplish a lot of things in 3 years. A 3 year project is typically a very big project. To have that taken away is potentially life changing for a lot people, depending on their age and aspirations.

My skepticism was aimed more at the “in six months all things will be back to the way they were before” types of people. Unfortunately the economists don’t share such wishful thinking.

It is what it is.
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corethatthermal wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 9:55 pm The Chinese CCP ( along with help from the WHO ) has succeeded in weakening the whole world. China has already declared war on the USA and shall do everything in its power to obtain world dominance,,,,, you ain't seen nothing yet folks !
I know, right? And those dastardly, godless heathens have already figured out a way to recruit Europeans to travel to Das Homeland in furtherance of their nefarious plan for global domination: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... seamericas

"The explosion of Covid-19 cases in the New York City area resulted largely from infected patients who flew in from Europe, genome scientists say.

Researchers at NYU Langone Health said they’ve analyzed 75 samples from patients who were diagnosed with Covid-19, the disease caused by the novel coronavirus, at New York-area hospitals last month.

About two-thirds of the samples appear to have European origins, said Adriana Heguy, director of the Genome Technology Center at the medical center. The virus appears to have been imported to New York from the U.K. and several European countries, including France, Austria and the Netherlands, she said."
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corethatthermal wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:42 pm The latest bit of foolishness from Dr. Tam Tam and the misfits in Ottawa is ,,,,,,, Get going on those homemade masks folks ,,, it won't stop you from getting the virus but might stop your virus from infecting others !!! When will these Liars stop ! N95 or better ( Homemade is 40-60% effective ) masks are still a stopgap measure ( Have you ever seen the equipment they use in Ebola labs? ) Masks do a better job of stopping DROPLET size transmission as compared to the mask being used by the receiver to stop inhalation due to many factors. The only reason nurses and doctors use simple masks is that the rate of injury/death over the cost is good enough for the bean counters ! Having older Doctors in close proximity , working on patients , with only an N95 mask, gown and glasses is foolishness !!! Its equivalent to landing with your plane with 5 min. of fuel left on every flight and expecting never to run out of fuel !
N95 is sufficient for close contact.

There are many protocols in place regarding what PPE to wear and when, not to mention proper donning and doffing.

Masks are a great idea as it slows the spread from asymptomatic carriers(people with no symptoms but have the disease).

This is not Ebola core.
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I'd like to know why Dr. Corethatthermal isn't giving the daily briefs and driving the national strategy to combat this virus.
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"The trade war in the United States is the creation of one person and his administration who have swept along the entire population of the country. Whereas the entire country and all the people of China are being threatened. For us, this is a real 'people's war,'" the editorial said.
A statement read during the primetime 7 p.m. news on state broadcaster CCTV by anchor Kang Hui said China would "fight for a new world," adding that in its long history "there's nothing we haven't seen before."
A war involving many deaths sometimes starts out as a trade war, or restricting a nation's trade etc.
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7ECA wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:42 pm
corethatthermal wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 9:55 pm China has already declared war on the USA and shall do everything in its power to obtain world dominance,,,,, you ain't seen nothing yet folks !
Oh really? You wouldn't happen to have a reputable source for that? Formal declaration, under the 1907 Hague Convention? Anything from the UN?
The CCP has stated it's intention, numerous times, to eclipse the US as the world's predominant economic power. It has taken deliberate actions to attain this goal, most notably opening an oil market that encourages trading in gold. Not all wars are fought with bullets.
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Rockie wrote: Thu Apr 09, 2020 8:28 am I'd like to know why Dr. Corethatthermal isn't giving the daily briefs and driving the national strategy to combat this virus.
Did his and Pelmet's come from the same Cheerios box?
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The internet and its forums are a rich trove and haven for unmuzzled pseudo-intellectualists, and all of their intemperate personal theories.
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RippleRock wrote: Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:01 pm Very interesting article:


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... -has-done/
RippleRock, could you copy and paste the article, or are you part of the sales team for the Washington post?
There was a big subscription box over the page, couldn’t even read the first sentence to see if I was interested in it.
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rookiepilot wrote: Thu Apr 09, 2020 12:03 pm
Rockie wrote: Thu Apr 09, 2020 8:28 am I'd like to know why Dr. Corethatthermal isn't giving the daily briefs and driving the national strategy to combat this virus.
Did his and Pelmet's come from the same Cheerios box?
Alright...another in a long list of insults and putdowns. I can play.

Rookiepilot is still basing his posts on his hoped for outcome of his financial investments(which he has discussed many times) and I do believe to be true. Stick to something you are an expert at...like crashing airplanes.
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pelmet wrote: Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:36 pm
rookiepilot wrote: Thu Apr 09, 2020 12:03 pm
Rockie wrote: Thu Apr 09, 2020 8:28 am I'd like to know why Dr. Corethatthermal isn't giving the daily briefs and driving the national strategy to combat this virus.
Did his and Pelmet's come from the same Cheerios box?
Alright...another insult. I can play.

Rookiepilot is still basing his posts on his hoped for outcome of his financial investments(which he has discussed many times). Stick to something you are an expert at...like crashing airplanes.
Rookiepilot and I agree that something like global pandemic strategy should be left to the experts. Now I know none of us have been very busy lately, but becoming an expert on viral pandemics in only one month seems like a stretch even for pilots. There’s a few on here who must be very fast readers with amazing retention.
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mbav8r wrote: Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:50 pm
RippleRock wrote: Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:01 pm Very interesting article:


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... -has-done/
RippleRock, could you copy and paste the article, or are you part of the sales team for the Washington post?
There was a big subscription box over the page, couldn’t even read the first sentence to see if I was interested in it.


Mark Thiessen, Washington Post. April 9th 2020.


The costs of the pandemic keep piling up. Hundreds of millions of Americans are on lockdown, a record 16.8 million have filed unemployment claims, nearly 15,000 Americans have died so far and the death toll is growing exponentially by the day. Congress has passed three coronavirus relief bills totaling $2.3 trillion, and more might soon be in the works.
Somebody has to pay for this unprecedented damage. That somebody should be the government of China.
No one can blame Beijing for a viral outbreak beyond its control. But the Chinese communist regime should be blamed — and held legally liable — for intentionally lying to the world about the danger of the virus, and proactively impeding a global response that might have prevented a worldwide contagion.
We now know that the first case of covid-19 appeared in China’s Hubei province on Nov. 17. By mid-December, Chinese officials knew that the virus was capable of human-to-human transmission because doctors and nurses were getting sick. But instead of alerting the world, they tried to cover it up and punished doctors who tried to sound the alarm. On Jan. 14, the World Health Organization tweeted that “Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission.” On Jan. 15, the head of China’s Center for Disease Control and Prevention declared on state television that “the risk of human-to-human transmission is low.” These were lies, and Beijing knew it. More than 1,700 Chinese medical workers had been infected.
As China lied, it intentionally hampered U.S. efforts to prepare for the virus’s arrival on our shores by refusing to share samples with us. U.S. officials became so frustrated that they tried a back channel — asking the director of the biocontainment lab at the University of Texas, which had a research partnership with the Wuhan Institute of Virology, to see whether he could get samples. The Post reports that “At first, the lab in Wuhan agreed, but officials in Beijing intervened Jan. 24 and blocked any lab-to-lab transfer.” That intervention came one day after Beijing finally imposed a belated lockdown on Wuhan — which means even after Chinese officials finally publicly acknowledged they were battling a pandemic they were still obstructing the U.S. response.

It took Beijing more than two months after the first case appeared to impose that lockdown. That coverup had deadly consequences. A University of Southampton study found that if Beijing acted just three weeks sooner, the number of covid-19 cases might have been reduced by 95 percent — which would have prevented a pandemic.
And China’s lies and obstruction are ongoing. The U.S. intelligence community has reportedly concluded that Beijing is underreporting both total cases and deaths it has suffered from covid-19 — denying U.S. scientists accurate data they need to understand how the virus behaves. This is more than mere negligence; it is active disinformation and obstruction.
Why are Chinese officials so determined to cover up the outbreak? Perhaps because, as David Ignatius recently reported, the virus might not have originated organically in Wuhan’s wet market. It might have begun instead as an accidental lab release of bat coronavirus from the Wuhan branch of China’s CDC less than 300 yards from the market — perhaps through the infection of a lab worker, a leaked sample or poor hazardous waste disposal. If so, that would add an additional layer to China’s culpability.
China must be held to account for its lies and obstruction. U.S. health-care workers and business owners recently filed the first lawsuits against the Chinese Communist Party for its complicity in this pandemic. Congress should help them and others by lifting China’s statutorily granted sovereign immunity and allowing the individuals and businesses harmed by China’s actions to sue Beijing for damages. There is precedent for doing so. In 2016, Congress passed the Justice Against Sponsors of Terrorism Act, which permitted victims and survivors to sue Saudi Arabia for complicity in the 9/11 attacks. Because of Beijing’s lies, we are now in the midst of a pandemic 9/11. The victims should have a right to sue China for these damages.
China would not be able to ignore such lawsuits. As former Justice Department official David Rivkin told me, “Once default judgments are obtained, they can be used to seize any Chinese commercial assets, including any proceeds of Chinese exports anywhere in the world.” But, Rivkin says, the benefit is not just recovery of money damages for the victims. “Litigation discovery,” he said, “is a great vehicle for fact-finding.” We have only scratched the surface of China’s complicity in this pandemic. The best way to uncover the truth might be through the U.S. legal system.
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https://youtu.be/G5DhR1G6BJI

Could be a new Olympic sport ?
Corona content at end of video ,when the Challenger starts to cough , aviation content as it took 48 hours to get from Brazil to Moscow for the slap fest to promote the MMA fight next week . In spite of the plague :) large crowds , loads of cheering , What could possibly go wrong ?
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I'd like to know why Dr. Corethatthermal isn't giving the daily briefs and driving the national strategy to combat this virus.
I don't report to the masses of sheeple, I only give briefs to the heads of state ! And no, I never told Taiwan to not wear masks :wink:
N95 is sufficient for close contact.


Yes, of course you are right ! Playing Russian roulette with a magazine of 20 and 1 bullet added is exactly your level of exposure! N95 is 95% effective, all other conditions being perfect.
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RippleRock wrote: Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:57 pm
mbav8r wrote: Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:50 pm
RippleRock wrote: Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:01 pm Very interesting article:


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... -has-done/
RippleRock, could you copy and paste the article, or are you part of the sales team for the Washington post?
There was a big subscription box over the page, couldn’t even read the first sentence to see if I was interested in it.


Mark Thiessen, Washington Post. April 9th 2020.


The costs of the pandemic keep piling up. Hundreds of millions of Americans are on lockdown, a record 16.8 million have filed unemployment claims, nearly 15,000 Americans have died so far and the death toll is growing exponentially by the day. Congress has passed three coronavirus relief bills totaling $2.3 trillion, and more might soon be in the works.
Somebody has to pay for this unprecedented damage. That somebody should be the government of China.
No one can blame Beijing for a viral outbreak beyond its control. But the Chinese communist regime should be blamed — and held legally liable — for intentionally lying to the world about the danger of the virus, and proactively impeding a global response that might have prevented a worldwide contagion.
We now know that the first case of covid-19 appeared in China’s Hubei province on Nov. 17. By mid-December, Chinese officials knew that the virus was capable of human-to-human transmission because doctors and nurses were getting sick. But instead of alerting the world, they tried to cover it up and punished doctors who tried to sound the alarm. On Jan. 14, the World Health Organization tweeted that “Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission.” On Jan. 15, the head of China’s Center for Disease Control and Prevention declared on state television that “the risk of human-to-human transmission is low.” These were lies, and Beijing knew it. More than 1,700 Chinese medical workers had been infected.
As China lied, it intentionally hampered U.S. efforts to prepare for the virus’s arrival on our shores by refusing to share samples with us. U.S. officials became so frustrated that they tried a back channel — asking the director of the biocontainment lab at the University of Texas, which had a research partnership with the Wuhan Institute of Virology, to see whether he could get samples. The Post reports that “At first, the lab in Wuhan agreed, but officials in Beijing intervened Jan. 24 and blocked any lab-to-lab transfer.” That intervention came one day after Beijing finally imposed a belated lockdown on Wuhan — which means even after Chinese officials finally publicly acknowledged they were battling a pandemic they were still obstructing the U.S. response.

It took Beijing more than two months after the first case appeared to impose that lockdown. That coverup had deadly consequences. A University of Southampton study found that if Beijing acted just three weeks sooner, the number of covid-19 cases might have been reduced by 95 percent — which would have prevented a pandemic.
And China’s lies and obstruction are ongoing. The U.S. intelligence community has reportedly concluded that Beijing is underreporting both total cases and deaths it has suffered from covid-19 — denying U.S. scientists accurate data they need to understand how the virus behaves. This is more than mere negligence; it is active disinformation and obstruction.
Why are Chinese officials so determined to cover up the outbreak? Perhaps because, as David Ignatius recently reported, the virus might not have originated organically in Wuhan’s wet market. It might have begun instead as an accidental lab release of bat coronavirus from the Wuhan branch of China’s CDC less than 300 yards from the market — perhaps through the infection of a lab worker, a leaked sample or poor hazardous waste disposal. If so, that would add an additional layer to China’s culpability.
China must be held to account for its lies and obstruction. U.S. health-care workers and business owners recently filed the first lawsuits against the Chinese Communist Party for its complicity in this pandemic. Congress should help them and others by lifting China’s statutorily granted sovereign immunity and allowing the individuals and businesses harmed by China’s actions to sue Beijing for damages. There is precedent for doing so. In 2016, Congress passed the Justice Against Sponsors of Terrorism Act, which permitted victims and survivors to sue Saudi Arabia for complicity in the 9/11 attacks. Because of Beijing’s lies, we are now in the midst of a pandemic 9/11. The victims should have a right to sue China for these damages.
China would not be able to ignore such lawsuits. As former Justice Department official David Rivkin told me, “Once default judgments are obtained, they can be used to seize any Chinese commercial assets, including any proceeds of Chinese exports anywhere in the world.” But, Rivkin says, the benefit is not just recovery of money damages for the victims. “Litigation discovery,” he said, “is a great vehicle for fact-finding.” We have only scratched the surface of China’s complicity in this pandemic. The best way to uncover the truth might be through the U.S. legal system.
When you look at the fact that the virus is hitting Western Nations at a much higher rate than the Russians or any country bordering China, this looks more and more like a deliberate action.
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