Saskatchewan Provincial Park Restrictions for Float Planes

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Saskatchewan Provincial Park Restrictions for Float Planes

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Ferrying a float plane through Saskabush next month and was wondering if there were any restrictions landing at a lake in a provincial park? Have sent an inquiry to the provincial agency but no joy thus far. Thanks
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This is probably not the answer you are looking for but it is way easier to beg forgiveness than ask permission in this case.
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Is there an old fuel cache there or something?
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Just need to stop at my half way point and throw in some fuel. Greenwater Lake is where I’d like to stop. Won’t even go to shore unless it’s windy. I see Mann Lake another 30 miles or so to the east but google sat photo is covered in ice at the time it was taken and there is nothing more I can find for info.
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Provincial governments can not technically make regulations on the landing and take off of an aircraft. Bodies of water no matter where they are, are also the sole jurisdiction of the federal government. National parks are another story because they are administered by the Federal Government and the Fed can make rules on planes.
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Tanker299 wrote: Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:32 am Provincial governments can not technically make regulations on the landing and take off of an aircraft. Bodies of water no matter where they are, are also the sole jurisdiction of the federal government. National parks are another story because they are administered by the Federal Government and the Fed can make rules on planes.
That's not true. Provincial government cannot make laws that impair the core of aeronautics. There are many provincial laws that apply to aeronautics: serving alcohol on aircraft, landing on highways, landing in provincial parks, health & safety requirements at AMO's, etc.
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That’s exactly what I said Bede. They can not make a regulation on the Take-off and Landing of plane. The take-off and landing and where and where not a plane can do this is the “core” of aviation. The service of alcohol provincial laws would only apply while the aircraft is on the ground. It would revert to federal law once in the air. They may make laws to prohibit you from landing on a highway but they are not legal. You would be got by TC however for some sort of reckless behaviour if it was a built up or busy area. All roads are “highways” under all provincial HTAs if they are assumed. I have landed on many of them. If you doubt planes do it, ask a spray pilot.
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8675309 wrote: Mon Apr 20, 2020 3:34 pm Ferrying a float plane through Saskabush next month and was wondering if there were any restrictions landing at a lake in a provincial park? Have sent an inquiry to the provincial agency but no joy thus far. Thanks
How did it go? Any issues? Were did you stop? Oh so many questions! :smt040
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My initial concern was that some provinces are prohibiting motorized vessels on some sensitive lakes and once you come down off the step, your a boat with a motor on it.
Delivered the beaver a while ago and landed in GreenWater lake to refuel. The Sask government guy was really helpful with a reply within a day or two. Greenwater was actually the halfway point within a mile.
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Tanker299 wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 5:40 amThe service of alcohol provincial laws would only apply while the aircraft is on the ground. It would revert to federal law once in the air.
No it wouldn’t.
The provincial liquor monopoly is not constitutionally inapplicable to the appellant airlines.
http://canlii.ca/t/1fr0x

Forgive me for being a know-it-all but you’re greatly oversimplifying a complex area of constitutional law that is filled with exceptions and caveats. Division of powers issues are very difficult to prove, and in the cases discussed, expand up on. You wouldn’t be the first to assume that anything aviation automatically federal law only applies.

If the province says don’t land in a provincial park or land on our roads (BTW Ontario prohibits this, SK does not), it’s probably best you assume that the law applies to you. Of course if you have bags of money to pay legal fees for o challenge the law, fill your boots. If you’re successful, you’ll have my sincerest thanks and admiration (seriously).
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