YUL Base

[780Pilot]

Is French a requirement to be out of YUL? Or is it just a preference if you do?

[Bajan Pilot]

No, it is not.

[Kaykay]

Certainly helpful. But not at all required for Pilots.

[780Pilot]

Certainly helpful. But not at all required for Pilots.

Thx to both of you. Yea thats what I would think. Preference I assume is probably given to guys with French if your looking at two guys and that's the difference.

[Dash.Trash]

Certainly helpful. But not at all required for Pilots.

Thx to both of you. Yea thats what I would think. Preference I assume is probably given to guys with French if your looking at two guys and that's the difference.

No. It is not.

Language has zero impact on what base you can hold. Only seniority.

[Kaykay]

Certainly helpful. But not at all required for Pilots.

Thx to both of you. Yea thats what I would think. Preference I assume is probably given to guys with French if your looking at two guys and that's the difference.

No. It is not.

Language has zero impact on what base you can hold. Only seniority.

Correct. Which is also not what I was saying.

I said French is useful in a YUL base because of daily life. It doesn’t have any bearing on being awarded the base; that’s seniority only.

[780Pilot]

Thx to both of you. Yea thats what I would think. Preference I assume is probably given to guys with French if your looking at two guys and that's the difference.

No. It is not.

Language has zero impact on what base you can hold. Only seniority.

Correct. Which is also not what I was saying.

I said French is useful in a YUL base because of daily life. It doesn’t have any bearing on being awarded the base; that’s seniority only.

I've heard Montreal is way more English compared to a place like Quebec City. So there's that too. But for sure it differently helps!

[Kaykay]

No. It is not.

Language has zero impact on what base you can hold. Only seniority.

Correct. Which is also not what I was saying.

I said French is useful in a YUL base because of daily life. It doesn’t have any bearing on being awarded the base; that’s seniority only.

I've heard Montreal is way more English compared to a place like Quebec City. So there's that too. But for sure it differently helps!

Yes it is, however you still will need French of some kind particularly if you decide to live at your base in YUL. You'll find a lot of things are much easier on yourself if you embrace it. Just some thoughts from someone who has done it for a long while.

[Ash Ketchum]

No. It is not.

Language has zero impact on what base you can hold. Only seniority.

Correct. Which is also not what I was saying.

I said French is useful in a YUL base because of daily life. It doesn’t have any bearing on being awarded the base; that’s seniority only.

I've heard Montreal is way more English compared to a place like Quebec City. So there's that too. But for sure it differently helps!

You also need French during layovers in alot of the smaller northern communities Jazz flies to out of YUL especially if you are on the Dash classic.

[Kaykay]

Correct. Which is also not what I was saying.

I said French is useful in a YUL base because of daily life. It doesn’t have any bearing on being awarded the base; that’s seniority only.

I've heard Montreal is way more English compared to a place like Quebec City. So there's that too. But for sure it differently helps!

You also need French during layovers in alot of the smaller northern communities Jazz flies to out of YUL especially if you are on the Dash classic.

Yes, +1

[goleafsgo]

Correct. Which is also not what I was saying.

I said French is useful in a YUL base because of daily life. It doesn’t have any bearing on being awarded the base; that’s seniority only.

I've heard Montreal is way more English compared to a place like Quebec City. So there's that too. But for sure it differently helps!

You also need French during layovers in alot of the smaller northern communities Jazz flies to out of YUL especially if you are on the Dash classic.

When I was there I downloaded Google translate on my phone and it helped a lot. You can hold your phone up to French words (i.e a menu at a restaurant) and it translates it for you. It was very helpful

[FL-280]

Thats pretty sad... 2 official languages in Canada you should at least be able to get by in your second one.
Holding google translate up to the menu like you are in china or something is ridiculous in your own country

[goldeneagle]

Thats pretty sad... 2 official languages in Canada you should at least be able to get by in your second one.
Holding google translate up to the menu like you are in china or something is ridiculous in your own country

Francophone would say the same in Alberta....

[FL-280]

It's sad both ways.... FR/ENG whatever, everyone should be able to get by in both anywhere in the country

[Yycjetdriver]

Thats pretty sad... 2 official languages in Canada you should at least be able to get by in your second one.
Holding google translate up to the menu like you are in china or something is ridiculous in your own country

The majority of Canadians don’t care about knowing French, it’s a dying language in Canada. It would be more beneficial to spend your time learning English/Chinese for Canadians.

[ayseven]

"because for ME it won't be useful"... The post was about QC. If you want to go around with blinders on in QC be my guest. You miss interacting with most people, that's all. Your loss.

[Kaykay]

Thats pretty sad... 2 official languages in Canada you should at least be able to get by in your second one.
Holding google translate up to the menu like you are in china or something is ridiculous in your own country

The majority of Canadians don’t care about knowing French, it’s a dying language in Canada. It would be more beneficial to spend your time learning English/Chinese for Canadians.

The thread was about a base in YUL and subsequent operations and life that goes with it. The point being made is that it is extremely beneficial to speak at least some French if you are based in Quebec because Quebec’s official language is French. The rest of the country is irrelevant to the original discussion.

The google translate option is used a lot by tourists and visitors and even that little bit of effort is widely appreciated.

If you feel a language from China is beneficial to be official in Canada then go write to your MP indicating your opinion.

[Inverted2]

I’ve flown lots in Quebec over the last 15 years to many places there. I’ve always managed to get by with pretty much zero French. I never thought about google translate. They usually have English menus at most restaurants if you ask.

[Kaykay]

I’ve flown lots in Quebec over the last 15 years to many places there. I’ve always managed to get by with pretty much zero French. I never thought about google translate. They usually have English menus at most restaurants if you ask.

The issue presents itself more if you relocate. Not so much if it’s just a layover and you’re ordering supper.

[jpilot77]

Lots of guys at AC (and I suspect at Jazz) that are YUL based live in Ontario and drive in.

[av8ts]

I’m YUL based and do not speak french. The worst part is if your with a Québécois crew, once you leave the aircraft they will only speak French. In the airport, hotel shuttle and if you go out to eat with them, even though they know you don’t speak French.

[ayseven]

Do you think they are trying to tell you something? Learning a language really is a lot of fun.

[fishface]

Do you think they are trying to tell you something? Learning a language really is a lot of fun.

It’s possible they’re trying to tell you “something”.....if they’re jerks.
Otherwise, I think it’s more of a “natural habitat” sort of thing where speaking French is their norm and they would have to remember to speak English and be considerate of their non-French speaking colleague. But then again, it would imply they care and want to be considerate in the first place.
In a part of my circle, I was regularly in a group that speaks their language amongst themselves and when they get carried away they kind of forget I’m there and they quickly switch back to English. No harm, no fowl.

But I do agree - learning languages is a ton of fun!

[ayseven]

My long experience with this is that when there is one Anglo, everyone speaks English whenever they can. One Francophone, and it's "well, he speaks English anyways, so why should we bother?" - everywhere in Canada, which is a bit weird isn't it? But not to a lot of anglophones for some strange reason. Most people everywhere are pretty good about it though, no matter where you go.

[mixturerich]

As an Anglo in Québec life can be pretty fine even if you speak no French, however, being out of the loop in conversations gets tiresome eventually. When the skippers are often speaking French to the FA’s, it can get annoying, whether they intend to or not. It is what it is. I think, if you’re going to live there for a long time, it would be a much richer experience if you learned the language.