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With only 44 identified potential cases of flight-related transmission among 1.2 billion travelers, that’s one case for every 27 million travelers.
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With only 44 identified potential cases of flight-related transmission among 1.2 billion travelers, that’s one case for every 27 million travelers.
I have to disagree and state the pandemic is very real and it's people who refuse to accept the legitimate facts that are BS. It's peoples' stupidity, selfishness and mental instability that is the root of the problem. There have been pandemics in the past but ironically it's the aviation industry that was the accelerant for world wide occurrence.I agree that this pandemic is mostly BS
Diseases of the sort that become epidemics or pandemics tend to be of the sort that are transmissible via close contact with infected persons. Previous pandemics like the Black or Bubonic Plague spread throughout Europe in the days before there was any large scale movements of people/travel - but rather via trade routes. Later pandemics also spread around the world, such as the Spanish Flu (H1N1) as troops and people moved about the world during and in the aftermath of the Great War - in the days when marine and rail travel were still very much dominant in the movement of people; with aviation in it's infancy.
Ok... the fact that it’s a pandemic isn’t BS. The common cold is pandemic.valleyboy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:42 amI have to disagree and state the pandemic is very real and it's people who refuse to accept the legitimate facts that are BS. It's peoples' stupidity, selfishness and mental instability that is the root of the problem. There have been pandemics in the past but ironically it's the aviation industry that was the accelerant for world wide occurrence.I agree that this pandemic is mostly BS
I guess the idea is if the risk is low jammed together in a metal tube for hours, the rest of the process should be fine given equal precautions(ie. face cover)iflyforpie wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 7:58 am That’s because it’s full of weasel words like “in-flight”.
Will IATA stand by their numbers when they include everything from check-in to baggage claim? It seems very odd that they’d focus specifically on in the airplane... vs the entire process which definitely has super-spreader potential. People can’t just be beamed in and out of their seats.
I agree that this pandemic is mostly BS.. but junk science reeking of selection-bias doesn’t really help public opinion.
I hear you, but a few salient points: the upper bound for the estimated infection fatality rate is 0.5%, so a quarter of your “2%” scenario. Also, your scenario figures that 100% of the population will catch covid and be symptomatic, when that is definitely not the case, and for those that do catch it about ~25% will remain asymptomatic. Certainly don’t mean to minimize your concerns, but it’s not as bad as 2% of 350 million people dying.valleyboy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 7:49 am I wish statisticians would use numbers instead of % points. It might give a better perspective. Take the USA at almost 350 million people and even 2% is about the toll in the death camps of ww2. Were we not horrified at that?
I guess for the millennials' age range it's normal to figure one is never going to die or at least not think about it, yes most of us who have passed through that age felt the same thing. It's tough to deal with one's own mortality. It's not about you or me, it's about consideration for others.
If you want to move around and run the gauntlet to catch a flight, good on you, just take into consideration the other people around, the mask you should wear is more for them and not so much for you. People are wearing masks for you so it's just common courtesy to return the favour.
Enough said, I digress and before too much of a thread drift develops. I'll leave those thoughts.