CYVR 26L TODA to read 17,250' ?

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CYVR 26L TODA to read 17,250' ?

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Anyone know why CYVR 26L TODA became 17,250 feet? :rolleyes:

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Re: CYVR 26L TODA to read 17,250' ?

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Found a CYVR 2037 Master Plan, including extra runway and probably more clearway or stopway...

probably something to do with this

https://www.yvr.ca/en/about-yvr/who-we- ... aster-plan
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Re: CYVR 26L TODA to read 17,250' ?

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You exit the apron at Echo, hit TOGA on Delta, do a step turn on Delta 7 and then on to 26L.
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"Found a CYVR 2037 Master Plan..."

YVR on the ball these days putting NOTAMS out seventeen years in advance.
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Re: CYVR 26L TODA to read 17,250' ?

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smooth wrote: Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:26 am Found a CYVR 2037 Master Plan, including extra runway and probably more clearway or stopway...

probably something to do with this

https://www.yvr.ca/en/about-yvr/who-we- ... aster-plan

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Hope they will tie floats onto that
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Re: CYVR 26L TODA to read 17,250' ?

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telex wrote: Sun Nov 01, 2020 12:15 pm "Found a CYVR 2037 Master Plan..."

YVR on the ball these days putting NOTAMS out seventeen years in advance.
This is why they tell you to slow down at TOD, half of their controllers are in training for the new runway procedures.
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Re: CYVR 26L TODA to read 17,250' ?

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YVR is trying to attract one of the ME3 carriers. Any bit of extra clearway helps I guess....
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TODA is the takeoff runway available (TORA) plus the clearway. The clearway in this case is half the runway length. The NOTAM is actually correct.
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Re: CYVR 26L TODA to read 17,250' ?

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I understand TORA + Clearway = TODA. It just seems TODA is 17250' that's almost 6000' longer than the actual runway length. Just curious is it because 08 end has nothing but ocean(considering the water is the clearway) And what's the TODA like before the NOTAM?
linecrew wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:12 pm TODA is the takeoff runway available (TORA) plus the clearway. The clearway in this case is half the runway length. The NOTAM is actually correct.
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Re: CYVR 26L TODA to read 17,250' ?

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smooth wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 11:44 am I understand TORA + Clearway = TODA. It just seems TODA is 17250' that's almost 6000' longer than the actual runway length. Just curious is it because 08 end has nothing but ocean(considering the water is the clearway) And what's the TODA like before the NOTAM?
linecrew wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:12 pm TODA is the takeoff runway available (TORA) plus the clearway. The clearway in this case is half the runway length. The NOTAM is actually correct.
26L TODA before Notam - 12484'
17250' puts it well into the water so why stop at 17250'? How is water considered part of the TODA? Disregard the question, google is my friend. See second attachment....
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Re: CYVR 26L TODA to read 17,250' ?

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kevenv wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 1:55 pm
smooth wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 11:44 am I understand TORA + Clearway = TODA. It just seems TODA is 17250' that's almost 6000' longer than the actual runway length. Just curious is it because 08 end has nothing but ocean(considering the water is the clearway) And what's the TODA like before the NOTAM?
linecrew wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:12 pm TODA is the takeoff runway available (TORA) plus the clearway. The clearway in this case is half the runway length. The NOTAM is actually correct.
26L TODA before Notam - 12484'
17250' puts it well into the water so why stop at 17250'? How is water considered part of the TODA? Disregard the question, google is my friend. See second attachment....
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TP312 5th edition, 4.4.1.3 states that the maximum length of a clearway is half of the TORA, which is why it stops at 17,250'.
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Re: CYVR 26L TODA to read 17,250' ?

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linecrew wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:51 pm TP312 5th edition, 4.4.1.3 states that the maximum length of a clearway is half of the TORA, which is why it stops at 17,250'.
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Re: CYVR 26L TODA to read 17,250' ?

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found the document, that is very interesting! learn something today
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