Of course masks are not the only answer. Pretty sure nobody ever said they were. They've always said "wear a mask when you can't physically distance". Of course, physical distancing is the best way to prevent getting sick. You won't get sick if you aren't around sick people. You don't need a PhD to deduce that one.montado wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:59 pmI always enjoy subjective “proof” that misses so many facts. Firstly in the USA do you even know how many states and municipalities have mandatory masks? 34 states, that’s right, including one of the hardest hit NY. Canadians think Americans are all hillbilly trumpians when for the most part they have very similar policy and similar compliance in most states.flyguy73 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:40 amLook back to March during the first lockdown and see how COVID numbers decreased. Then look in the summer when lockdowns were eased and see where the numbers went. Here we are today with minimal lockdowns and numbers going up yet we have mandatory masking. But look at countries like the USA without mandatory masking and see that they have 5 times the COVID numbers as Canada. All we have to do it look to them to know that as much as a pain in the ass masks are, they actually do work. So just suck it up snowflake and wear the f'n mask.Inverted2 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:05 pm
I think the Chinese wanted Trump gone yesterday because he stands up to them. Very suspicious they released this virus during an election year, but we will see where this all goes..... Biden is talking mask mask mask, but here in Canada the numbers are way up since masks were made mandatory in most areas. As for the vaccine, I hope it works but I won’t be at the front of any line to take it.
Funny if you look at the graph for NY, mandatory masks happened end of may, however covid cases were already on the decline. Now for some reason cases are trending up, in the state that’s heavily democrat, and mask abiding citizens. (Is this really about mask... or maybe flu season, social distancing, and outdoor activity has way more bearing on outcomes?)
And let me guess, you have an answer for Sweden too, who has been averaging under 5 deaths a day since August. No mandatory mask in Sweden, some people there choose to wear them, however it seems as if the citizens can use their own judgment. Plenty of images from Sweden showing mask use is not really the norm.
Masks doesn’t work well enough to slow the spread. Need some proof just look at all the places with mandatory mask policy, it ain’t working ... But I can tell you what the mask does very very well.. people who don’t have covid, and wear a mask, are doing a great job of not spreading covid... probably because the mask... but I’m not sure..... science....
That said, masking is one more element to reduce exposure. NY state is following the same trend of much of Canada that has mandatory masks. NY has about 20 deaths per day. Florida (as state with no mandatory mask policy) has had around 100 deaths per day over the entire summer and is increasing now in the second wave.
And Sweden is averaging at least 10-15 deaths a day in their latest wave and 5,000 cases per day. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavir ... ry/sweden/. I'm not sure why people keep using Sweden (6100 deaths) as an example to uphold? Compare them to Finland (369 deaths) or Norway (300 deaths) and you'll see their plan has been an abject failure.
Seriously, why would you not expect that a disease that is spread by close contact with people that are sick not be reduced through the use of a device meant to reduce the spread of virus particles. I work with the Engineers that develop masks and mask materials and I'm aware how they develop these masks to limit transmission of particles less then 10 nm in size. They obviously have a reason for believing that these are useful for limiting the spread of viruses and have a multitude of tests to validate these things. What is your expertise in reaching your conclusions?