NEM Tony Ledsham is NOT gone...
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NEM Tony Ledsham is NOT gone...
This is the latest in the BS ACPA MEC intimidation tactics. The "arbitration" hearing was yesterday. It's a lot easier when you know they are all lying...
https://www.dropbox.com/s/87kko60p5thi0 ... 8.AVI?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/87kko60p5thi0 ... 8.AVI?dl=0
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Tony,
You need to seek psychological help.
Every day that you drag this on takes the spotlight off the actual daily corruption, dereliction of duties and downright tyranny at the MEC level. Your personal battle pales in comparison to the serious problems in our union that need so desperately to be fixed. Every time you go public with this rambling, nut-job BS, you lose more and more credibility, whether your gripes with the union are accurate or not.
Just stop.
You need to seek psychological help.
Every day that you drag this on takes the spotlight off the actual daily corruption, dereliction of duties and downright tyranny at the MEC level. Your personal battle pales in comparison to the serious problems in our union that need so desperately to be fixed. Every time you go public with this rambling, nut-job BS, you lose more and more credibility, whether your gripes with the union are accurate or not.
Just stop.
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I post with my real name. Do not dare to suggest that I need psychological help, "Massa". You have absolutely no idea.
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Dude I’ll have whatever dope you’re smokin, it must be good
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I do agree that this has gone off the rails to the detriment of the a̶s̶s̶o̶c̶i̶a̶t̶i̶o̶n̶, membership.
I get Tony's frustration, and Tony is right. There was the MEC petitioner answering with "I don't recall" to simple direct questions about the facts relating to the circumstances in what he claims about Tony's dereliction.
Give me a break. Can't remember the landscape of some of the most significant MEC decisions of your career? Aren't the NC members involved in COVMOA1 documented? Aren't the MEC decision recorded? This shows that these assholes are as smug and slimy as they come with their own motives that run counter the larger membership.
I also understood that if you can't claim a refusal to sign an NDA is a dereliction, how can the rest of it be? What a fucking waste of resources and efforts. This is what our association is pissing away it's time on, turning guns inward when we most need every one pointed outward.
I get Tony's frustration, and Tony is right. There was the MEC petitioner answering with "I don't recall" to simple direct questions about the facts relating to the circumstances in what he claims about Tony's dereliction.
Give me a break. Can't remember the landscape of some of the most significant MEC decisions of your career? Aren't the NC members involved in COVMOA1 documented? Aren't the MEC decision recorded? This shows that these assholes are as smug and slimy as they come with their own motives that run counter the larger membership.
I also understood that if you can't claim a refusal to sign an NDA is a dereliction, how can the rest of it be? What a fucking waste of resources and efforts. This is what our association is pissing away it's time on, turning guns inward when we most need every one pointed outward.
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I told everyone he needs help. And to be fair i might have spoken to quickly earlier before I had more information. But after watching 5 min of that Video. Wow. You need help. Please. Contact the unions help lines they will treat you professionally. Just seek help.
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Is it not illegal to record someone without their knowledge and then post it online?tony ledsham wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:04 pm This is the latest in the BS ACPA MEC intimidation tactics. The "arbitration" hearing was yesterday. It's a lot easier when you know they are all lying...
https://www.dropbox.com/s/87kko60p5thi0 ... 8.AVI?dl=0

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Again, I don't think Tony is articulating the issues well here, and I disagree with his approach, but he's been left alone to fall.
It is one against the whole association. What a waste.
I've seen where Tony was the only one asking the hard questions while everyone else just seemed happy to get along.
Shame on you Gauthier, Weiser, McKay, et al... the entire MEC... for selling this one out, for getting along with the C-suite like they were your buddies ahead of your own brother, for going to the box suite, selling your startup's product to the company, forgetting what the job really is...
New relationship?
You have no enemies, you say?
Alas! my friend, the boast is poor;
He who has mingled in the fray
Of duty, that the brave endure,
Must have made foes! If you have none,
Small is the work that you have done.
You've hit no traitor on the hip,
You've dashed no cup from perjured lip,
You've never turned the wrong to right,
You've been a coward in the fight.
It is one against the whole association. What a waste.
I've seen where Tony was the only one asking the hard questions while everyone else just seemed happy to get along.
Shame on you Gauthier, Weiser, McKay, et al... the entire MEC... for selling this one out, for getting along with the C-suite like they were your buddies ahead of your own brother, for going to the box suite, selling your startup's product to the company, forgetting what the job really is...
New relationship?
You have no enemies, you say?
Alas! my friend, the boast is poor;
He who has mingled in the fray
Of duty, that the brave endure,
Must have made foes! If you have none,
Small is the work that you have done.
You've hit no traitor on the hip,
You've dashed no cup from perjured lip,
You've never turned the wrong to right,
You've been a coward in the fight.
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Captain Kirkk wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:09 pm Dude I’ll have whatever dope you’re smokin, it must be good
Have you ever worked with Tony? Do you know him? Tony has always been a stand up , hardworking pilot who is going through a rough patch.
I think your comment is rather flip and obtuse. Aren’t you a new hire from Jass? The same guy who used to make embarrassingly painful to watch YouTube videos?
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You should really rethink talking about someone having issues/“going down him” on a public forum. If you truly care about his well being and want him to get help. This is not the way to go about it and may be doing more harm than good.... and it’s a real d*ck move.Fidget wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:46 am Don’t be enablers. The guy needs some help. He’s gone down hill last few months. You are not helping him. If you are at all close to him like his wing man on the forum, you should have a talk and get him the help he needs. I heard about his personal issues. He will need help with dealing with that.
Good guys need help too.
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This thread is crazier than a two-peckered billy goat...
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Deleted post, felt not my place to judge.
Good luck Tony.
Good luck Tony.
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What a train wreck we are watching! Very pathetic and sad. Also very predictable.
This theatrical performance is completely consistent with his many past performances. He got elected because his angry screaming resonates with some pilots frustration with their situation. How effective is angry screaming anyway? Tony is one of the best angry screamers I have met and it now appears that he has finally failed at everything he has done. So maybe angry screaming is not such a great quality to have when you are a nationally elected official.
Since Tony has refused all help and has proven himself to be a completely ineffective leader maybe those that elected him should stand up and fix the situation. There’s no way he will ever resign so a membership driven recall is the only solution. His seat on the MEC needs to be occupied and now is clearly the time to get that done. P4C where are you on this?
This theatrical performance is completely consistent with his many past performances. He got elected because his angry screaming resonates with some pilots frustration with their situation. How effective is angry screaming anyway? Tony is one of the best angry screamers I have met and it now appears that he has finally failed at everything he has done. So maybe angry screaming is not such a great quality to have when you are a nationally elected official.
Since Tony has refused all help and has proven himself to be a completely ineffective leader maybe those that elected him should stand up and fix the situation. There’s no way he will ever resign so a membership driven recall is the only solution. His seat on the MEC needs to be occupied and now is clearly the time to get that done. P4C where are you on this?
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70+ million people voted for Donald Trump...Ratherbe wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:17 am What a train wreck we are watching! Very pathetic and sad. Also very predictable.
This theatrical performance is completely consistent with his many past performances. He got elected because his angry screaming resonates with some pilots frustration with their situation. How effective is angry screaming anyway? Tony is one of the best angry screamers I have met and it now appears that he has finally failed at everything he has done. So maybe angry screaming is not such a great quality to have when you are a nationally elected official.
Since Tony has refused all help and has proven himself to be a completely ineffective leader maybe those that elected him should stand up and fix the situation. There’s no way he will ever resign so a membership driven recall is the only solution. His seat on the MEC needs to be occupied and now is clearly the time to get that done. P4C where are you on this?
"Lightweight!"
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Finally this embarrassing debacle is over.......Election process starts Jan 04.....
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Your "handle" should be "Wannabe" You have absolutely no clue about leadership. Whoever you are, you are pathetic. You deserve what ACPA is dishing out to you.Ratherbe wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:17 am What a train wreck we are watching! Very pathetic and sad. Also very predictable.
This theatrical performance is completely consistent with his many past performances. He got elected because his angry screaming resonates with some pilots frustration with their situation. How effective is angry screaming anyway? Tony is one of the best angry screamers I have met and it now appears that he has finally failed at everything he has done. So maybe angry screaming is not such a great quality to have when you are a nationally elected official.
Since Tony has refused all help and has proven himself to be a completely ineffective leader maybe those that elected him should stand up and fix the situation. There’s no way he will ever resign so a membership driven recall is the only solution. His seat on the MEC needs to be occupied and now is clearly the time to get that done. P4C where are you on this?
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Have you got any more videos. I found it quite interesting.tony ledsham wrote: ↑Sat Dec 05, 2020 7:54 pmYour "handle" should be "Wannabe" You have absolutely no clue about leadership. Whoever you are, you are pathetic. You deserve what ACPA is dishing out to you.Ratherbe wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:17 am What a train wreck we are watching! Very pathetic and sad. Also very predictable.
This theatrical performance is completely consistent with his many past performances. He got elected because his angry screaming resonates with some pilots frustration with their situation. How effective is angry screaming anyway? Tony is one of the best angry screamers I have met and it now appears that he has finally failed at everything he has done. So maybe angry screaming is not such a great quality to have when you are a nationally elected official.
Since Tony has refused all help and has proven himself to be a completely ineffective leader maybe those that elected him should stand up and fix the situation. There’s no way he will ever resign so a membership driven recall is the only solution. His seat on the MEC needs to be occupied and now is clearly the time to get that done. P4C where are you on this?
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