Boeing Update, for Air Canada Pilots — News and Views

[boeingboy]

Give it a week or 2....

[Raymond Hall]

FAA Administrator Steve Dickson today signed an order (PDF) that paves the way for the Boeing 737 MAX to return to commercial service.
https://www.faa.gov/news/updates/?newsId=93206

[rxl]

The Washington Post? Seriously Ray? I thought you're blood ran slightly blue.

There isn't a more left-leaning, democratic, far-left leaning liberal rag in the entire U.S.A.

It’s called the reporting of facts.
You appear to be the only one attempting to make something political out of it.

[RippleRock]

The Washington Post? Seriously Ray? I thought you're blood ran slightly blue.

There isn't a more left-leaning, democratic, far-left leaning liberal rag in the entire U.S.A.

It’s called the reporting of facts.
You you appear to be the only one attempting to make something political out of it.

You're a few months late to the party buddy.

If you read the original article I was commenting on, you'd see there was plenty of political in it. Only Marxists read the WP, so I was a little surprised to see Ray quote it.

Is it not ok to be surprised, and say so?

[Raymond Hall]

Only Marxists read the WP ...

Your post is right out of Logic 101. Syllogistic reasoning.

If A then B. If B then C. Hence, if A then C. “Only Marxists read the Washington Post.”

I quoted the article from the Washington Post, which obviously means that I read the Washington Post. Hence, according to you, I am a Marxist. Thanks for that. I have been trying to understand who I am for some time now. And my ultra-right small-c conservative friends should be freshly enlightened by your analysis, if they stick by me.

What you did is transform an issue about the 737 Max into a political statement about my character and my political dispositions. If that isn’t defamatory, prejudicial, presumptuous and right out to lunch, it would be humorous.

Should I lower myself to your juvenile level? OK, let me ask you this: “When did you stop beating your wife?”

In that vein, what you should be concerned about is what I don’t read, not what I read.

More to the point, would it not be possible to keep these posts focused on dealing with aviation issues, rather than on the personal characteristics of those who contribute to the conversations?

[rxl]

The Washington Post? Seriously Ray? I thought you're blood ran slightly blue.

There isn't a more left-leaning, democratic, far-left leaning liberal rag in the entire U.S.A.

It’s called the reporting of facts.
You you appear to be the only one attempting to make something political out of it.

You're a few months late to the party buddy.

If you read the original article I was commenting on, you'd see there was plenty of political in it. Only Marxists read the WP, so I was a little surprised to see Ray quote it.

Is it not ok to be surprised, and say so?

I don’t follow your posts closely. Sorry.
Out of all of the ridiculous posts on this forum, to suggest that someone has an extreme political point of view based on a newspaper that they cite has to rank right up near the top of the hit parade.

[Rockie]

Only Marxists read the WP,

The WP has won 69 Pulitzer Prizes.

Info wars, Newsmax, The Rebel, OAN and Fox News have a combined total of...zero.

Thanks Ripplerock, but I’ll keep my Marxist newsletter subscription.

[RippleRock]

Only Marxists read the WP,

The WP has won 69 Pulitzer Prizes.

Info wars, Newsmax, The Rebel, OAN and Fox News have a combined total of...zero.

Thanks Ripplerock, but I’ll keep my Marxist newsletter subscription.

Pulitzer, yes. Moral "intellectuals" awarding members of their own club since 1917.

I missed you Rock. Where have you been? Your post count missed you too, as have all the youngsters you haughtily lord over posing as a superior morality figure in other threads. Good work in the Pfizer thread btw.

I will say the WP suits you perfectly, but not legit posters like Ray or Rudder.

I'm done with this one. I'll let you know with a PM when I start to care about who you subscribe to.

[Rockie]

If by “intellectuals” you mean people with a functioning brain I have to agree with you. I’m also forced to agree with your opinion that it doesn’t include you.

[Raymond Hall]

Boeing 737 Max to Resume Passenger Flights in Brazil

Gol Airlines, a Brazilian carrier, said it planned to start flights aboard the Boeing 737 Max on Wednesday, making it the first airline to fly passengers on the plane since it was grounded worldwide almost two years ago.

The first flights will be on domestic routes to and from Gol’s hub in São Paulo, with the company expecting all seven of the Max planes in its fleet to be updated and cleared to fly by the end of the month. A Gol spokeswoman declined to provide further details.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/12/08 ... ronavirus

[Lt. Daniel Kaffee]

The 737 Max will be certified to fly again in Canada...as of Thursday...Dec 17.

[Lt. Daniel Kaffee]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-boei ... SKBN28Q37K

[alkaseltzer]

Aren’t we still waiting for the final report from one of the crashes?

[FL030]

The "as soon as" in the title is classic fake news.

[Raymond Hall]

Boeing Resumes 787 Dreamliner Deliveries

Boeing Co. resumed deliveries of its 787 Dreamliner, a step toward moving past production problems with the widebody jets.

A United Airlines Holdings Inc. spokeswoman said the Chicago-based carrier received a 787 on Friday and expected a second as soon as Monday.
The plane maker had halted deliveries of the popular jets in October after a series of production quality lapses. The problems have prompted stepped-up regulatory scrutiny and hindered Boeing’s ability to generate cash amid the Covid-19 pandemic, which has hurt demand for air travel and the airplanes it produces.

A Boeing spokesman declined to comment on the pace of deliveries for the company’s backlog of Dreamliners, which it has moved to produce at a rate of five airplanes a month. Since halting deliveries in October, Boeing has built up an inventory of more than 80 finished planes, according to aviation data provider Ascend by Cirium.

The Boeing spokesman said the company thoroughly examined many aspects of the 787 program to ensure newly delivered airplanes “meet all regulatory requirements and Boeing’s highest quality standards.”

https://www.wsj.com/articles/boeing-res ... lista_pos4

[Raymond Hall]

Another problem for the 737 Max...

Boeing's 737 Max has a new problem that will ground some of the jets again



https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/09/business ... index.html

[Blue42]

Another problem for the 737 Max...

Boeing's 737 Max has a new problem that will ground some of the jets again



https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/09/business ... index.html

Doesn’t affect AC fleet at all, even WS had only 1 aircraft affected by this and it was the recent delivery. Sounds like it was a production issue and primer paint made it’s way into a bolt hole, may have created a grounding issue in the electrical system.

[Big Pistons Forever]

WHAT ! A quality control lapse on the Boeing Production line....that's unpossible

[boeingboy]

It's not a QA problem, it's due to a production change. Something to do with grounding in the standby power system. Only 3 Canadian aircraft are affected.

[Big Pistons Forever]

It's not a QA problem, it's due to a production change. Something to do with grounding in the standby power system. Only 3 Canadian aircraft are affected.

How is it not a Boeing QA problem ?

[Raymond Hall]

Boeing to pay $17 million over plane production issues in settlement with FAA

Boeing will pay at least $17 million in penalties under a settlement it reached with the federal government over multiple missteps during the manufacture and certification of the 737 Max and Next Generation planes.

The Chicago-based aircraft maker also must take steps to strengthen the screening, ordering oversight and installation of parts, according to an agreement announced Thursday with the Federal Aviation Administration.
…

The FAA gave Boeing one month from the signing of the settlement to pay the $17 million penalty.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/transpor ... ettlement/

['97 Tercel]

pocket change...

[yycflyguy]

pocket change...

It is, but add that to the $2.5 billion they already agreed to pay DOJ and the carriers plus the outstanding class action and private litigation cases, the final tally will be a lot more. The curious thing is how the FAA is escaping blame. They allowed the "streamlined" production and "self-certification" to a private entity whose responsibility is to shareholders. Dereliction of duty if you ask me.

[Raymond Hall]

Boeing Deals With New Dreamliner Defect Amid Production Problems

The new problem involves certain titanium parts that are weaker than they should be on 787s built over the past three years, people familiar with the matter said. The discovery is among other Dreamliner snafus that have left Boeing stuck with more than $25 billion of the jets in its inventory.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/boeing-dea ... _lead_pos1