Non Aviation Employers Don't Respect Pilot Experience

[Launchpad1]

Don't quit and spam those fuckers inboxes!

Hahaha best advice ever.

It's funny you start off like a sniper firing off your resume carefully, then just end up like some kind of artillery.

[fsantana]

Who ever in here that may be interested in giving Customer Service a try for a WFH setup send me a PM....

[mixturerich]

Reviving this thread to ask, who's gotten a non flying job, any leads or ideas? I don't know what it is, being furloughed or just being in a different industry. There has to be some jobs that look favourably on us?

It took me months to figure that out. It seems employers either think that we are not qualified or over qualified for other jobs. I think HR doesn't realize that as pilots we have alot to offer other industries and alot of our skills can translate into non flying work.

Not referring to you, but I think HR must see this website and all the conspiracy theorist whack job pilots in the coronavirus threads and do 180 real quick lol

[ant_321]

I’ve applied to about 100 jobs and haven’t been able to get an interview for anything. I am currently working at my second temporary gig I’ve gotten through friends. Didn’t apply for either.

[duro195]

Hey guys,
I don' know what the situation is outside Quebec in this field, but if you're bilingual, you could look into the insurance business. A laid off 705 buddy of mine and myself (same) have found a job in two different companies. Full benefits, 25ish an hour, 35hr work week WFH gig. They pay for the training but they do have a (small, one year) training bond. Look into it! Industrielle Alliance, Intact, La Capitale, SSQ, Desjardins. There's a bunch!

[Ash Ketchum]

Reviving this thread to ask, who's gotten a non flying job, any leads or ideas? I don't know what it is, being furloughed or just being in a different industry. There has to be some jobs that look favourably on us?

It took me months to figure that out. It seems employers either think that we are not qualified or over qualified for other jobs. I think HR doesn't realize that as pilots we have alot to offer other industries and alot of our skills can translate into non flying work.

Not referring to you, but I think HR must see this website and all the conspiracy theorist whack job pilots in the coronavirus threads and do 180 real quick lol

I highly doubt they would do that. Unfortunately they mainly look at similarity of past job titles to the current job title and for keywords that match the job description/requirements. When they get 200+ resumes for a single role they will spend maybe 10 seconds looking at each one. From my experience they don't tend to connect the dots and see how relevant skills and experience can translate from one field into another.

[montado]

Reviving this thread to ask, who's gotten a non flying job, any leads or ideas? I don't know what it is, being furloughed or just being in a different industry. There has to be some jobs that look favourably on us?

It took me months to figure that out. It seems employers either think that we are not qualified or over qualified for other jobs. I think HR doesn't realize that as pilots we have alot to offer other industries and alot of our skills can translate into non flying work.

Not referring to you, but I think HR must see this website and all the conspiracy theorist whack job pilots in the coronavirus threads and do 180 real quick lol

The markets disagree with you. The money must know something about covid that you don’t understand. Keep sitting on the sidelines shouting “whack job”.

The only one about to do a quick 180 is you when one day you will go from shouting grandma killer with your mask on, to the next day taking you mask off.

[mixturerich]

We’re all on the sidelines, bud. Some of us just decided to follow the rules and to not be a douchebag calling it a “stupid mask”. Go fly a kite.

[RedBaron10]

To those still looking for a job:

Consider landscaping during the summer and snow removal during the winter. I know people who have done landscaping during the summer and although hard work, it pays more than minimum wage and the hours are 8-10 hours of pay a day. Even better if you can find one that pays cash! Same with snow removal... hard work, but they seem to always be hiring.

I wish you all the very best during these times. I hope this can help some people

RB10

[mixturerich]

To those still looking for a job:

Consider landscaping during the summer and snow removal during the winter. I did landscaping during the summer and although hard work, it pays more than minimum wage ($18.50 for me) and the hours are 8-10 hours of pay a day.

It’s just like being up north again! :
Except, you actually get paid minimum wage and aren’t forced to do 12-14 hour days

[teacher]

I’ve been laid off several times in the span of my career thus far. 2 of the times I signed up with TEMP AGENCIES and found steady work often more than minimum wage depending on the position. You can sign up with several agencies and get called for jobs as they become available.

Something to think about.

[ayseven]

The non aviation employer thinks you are going back to flying at the drop of a hat. There is no panacea for this.

[Shinyjetsyndrome]

I just got a job washing dishes at a hospital and it pays $26 an hour (extra $1.20 for night shift). Might be an option if you can afford the hit to the ego.

[ant_321]

I just got a job washing dishes at a hospital and it pays $26 an hour (extra $1.20 for night shift). Might be an option if you can afford the hit to the ego.

What province are you in? So far I’ve dug holes for $20/hr and drove a van for $17. Washing dishes for $26/hr doesn’t sound too bad!

[Shinyjetsyndrome]

I just got a job washing dishes at a hospital and it pays $26 an hour (extra $1.20 for night shift). Might be an option if you can afford the hit to the ego.

What province are you in? So far I’ve dug holes for $20/hr and drove a van for $17. Washing dishes for $26/hr doesn’t sound too bad!

Yep.. Nice change from manual labour outdoors. Out in Ontario.

[GoHomeLeg]

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[RedAndWhiteBaron]

Get your AZ or DZ license. Plenty of truck driving jobs long hall or regional day trips. 7k investment. You may qualify for government funding. Starting pay could be as high as $35/hr.

There is a truck driving shortage. The US is currently taking Canadian drivers with sponsorship and all. Great way to get US status. Companies will sponsor.

There was also a pilot shortage. Look how that turned out. And if you think flying a plane for 11 hours a day is bad for your back... try driving a truck.

But agreed - have a backup, especially in these times.

[shimmydampner]

Yeah well, not many seats for sale on a truck. I think that industry is set up to weather the pandemic storm better than ours.
And I suspect most modern truck seats and cabs are equally if not more spacious and comfortable than most turbo props and jets. Besides, back pain is generally easy to avoid. Lift weights and build a strong core. Chances are your back pain will go away.

[photofly]

Get your AZ or DZ license. Plenty of truck driving jobs long hall or regional day trips. 7k investment. You may qualify for government funding. Starting pay could be as high as $35/hr.

There is a truck driving shortage. The US is currently taking Canadian drivers with sponsorship and all. Great way to get US status. Companies will sponsor.

Unfortunately, in person driving instruction is not permitted in Ontario at present.

[digits_]

Get your AZ or DZ license. Plenty of truck driving jobs long hall or regional day trips. 7k investment. You may qualify for government funding. Starting pay could be as high as $35/hr.

There is a truck driving shortage. The US is currently taking Canadian drivers with sponsorship and all. Great way to get US status. Companies will sponsor.

Unfortunately, in person driving instruction is not permitted in Ontario at present.

Can't they use zoom ?

[SkySailor]

Get your AZ or DZ license. Plenty of truck driving jobs long hall or regional day trips. 7k investment. You may qualify for government funding. Starting pay could be as high as $35/hr.

There is a truck driving shortage. The US is currently taking Canadian drivers with sponsorship and all. Great way to get US status. Companies will sponsor.

You clearly don't know what you're talking about. There are very few truck driving jobs around that pay 35 bucks an hour to experienced drivers, let alone fresh outta driving school rookies. There might be some specialized jobs paying that, but you'd have to demonstrate experience and be willing to accept tough working conditions and seasonal schedules.

I''ve NEVER heard of US companies "sponsoring" Canadian drivers. Provide your sources or links for making such a ridiculous statement. Otherwise, stick to comments about something you might have a slight clue of......

[DHC-1 Jockey]

Unfortunately, in person driving instruction is not permitted in Ontario at present.

Driving instruction is still permitted:

No in-person driving instruction permitted except:
- For instruction for drivers of commercial motor vehicles
- Where the instruction is part of the Ontario Driver Certification Program administered by the Ministry of Transportation and involves the operation of motor vehicles for which:
- A class of driver’s licence other than Class G, G1, G2, M, M1 or M2 is required
- An air brake endorsement is required

https://files.ontario.ca/moh-provincewi ... -12-22.pdf

So, you can do driving instruction for anything really except G and M licenses.

[RedAndWhiteBaron]

No in-person driving instruction permitted except:
- For instruction for drivers of commercial motor vehicles
- Where the instruction is part of the Ontario Driver Certification Program administered by the Ministry of Transportation and involves the operation of motor vehicles for which:
- A class of driver’s licence other than Class G, G1, G2, M, M1 or M2 is required
- An air brake endorsement is required

https://files.ontario.ca/moh-provincewi ... -12-22.pdf

So, you can do driving instruction for anything really except G and M licenses.

Much the same as flight training, which makes much more sense now. Generally, flight training for recreational purposes is verboten now, but training for a career is not. I had always compared flight training to driver training as the best corollary to use as a guide. This helps explain the reasoning behind the exemption.

[Cessna 180]

Get your AZ or DZ license. Plenty of truck driving jobs long hall or regional day trips. 7k investment. You may qualify for government funding. Starting pay could be as high as $35/hr.

There is a truck driving shortage. The US is currently taking Canadian drivers with sponsorship and all. Great way to get US status. Companies will sponsor.

You clearly don't know what you're talking about. There are very few truck driving jobs around that pay 35 bucks an hour to experienced drivers, let alone fresh outta driving school rookies. There might be some specialized jobs paying that, but you'd have to demonstrate experience and be willing to accept tough working conditions and seasonal schedules.

I''ve NEVER heard of US companies "sponsoring" Canadian drivers. Provide your sources or links for making such a ridiculous statement. Otherwise, stick to comments about something you might have a slight clue of......

I'd love to see which company is sponsoring green cards or any visa for a Canadian truck driver.

[GoHomeLeg]

Get your AZ or DZ license. Plenty of truck driving jobs long hall or regional day trips. 7k investment. You may qualify for government funding. Starting pay could be as high as $35/hr.

There is a truck driving shortage. The US is currently taking Canadian drivers with sponsorship and all. Great way to get US status. Companies will sponsor.

You clearly don't know what you're talking about. There are very few truck driving jobs around that pay 35 bucks an hour to experienced drivers, let alone fresh outta driving school rookies. There might be some specialized jobs paying that, but you'd have to demonstrate experience and be willing to accept tough working conditions and seasonal schedules.

I''ve NEVER heard of US companies "sponsoring" Canadian drivers. Provide your sources or links for making such a ridiculous statement. Otherwise, stick to comments about something you might have a slight clue of......

I'd love to see which company is sponsoring green cards or any visa for a Canadian truck driver.

It's under the H2b visa process, but for limited time and can not be used to apply for permanent residence. A company has to prove the can't find anyone. So the companies are hard to find. So correction on my part. I was told all this by an MTO inspector who taught my air break course a several months ago. It's probably not worth going through the process because you'll get recalled by your airline before that ever happens.
With that said, lots of truck driving jobs in Canada.
Just google AZ truck driving jobs wherever you live.