Service Suspension Notice

[Zaibatsu]

Sorry to hear about the PFO from back in the day

Don’t flatter yourself.

[GhostRider6]

The airlines have a loan to the tune of several billion on the backs of the taxpayers which should be paid with interest.

I don’t take my car to the automotive shop and pay if they’ve failed to provide a service. The airlines cancelled flights - the public should be repaid with interest.. .

Airlines have received CEWS/ CERB..

The airlines are no more or less viable than any other business.

A so called essential service is failing to provide a service and is now choosing to not serve the Canadian public.

The airlines should have saved for a rainy day. Plain and simple...scrimp and save! - free market economics.

No major purchases. ( Transat) .. if they need money sell some assets like the rest of us.

The other question is why Canadians need a bailout .. nobody is scrimping and saving ...IMO people should have the funds to weather the storm without Justin coming to the rescue.

Why is AC pulling out of communities and PASCO stepping in?

Hopefully this is a lesson in customer service for these large corporations.. one only needs to look at the comments section of many of these news articles .. the taxpayer is not impressed with the service and does not want a industry bailout.

Someone will fill the void..

I’m sorry for those who will lose their jobs as a result of this mess. I’d imagine they’ll be picked up in short order.

[Inverted2]

Lots of routes from Newfoundland also cut today. Just the beginning IMO.

Goose Bay, Gander completely out. Not sure about Deer Lake. That might have already been cut. That about only leaves St. John’s!

Airlines aren’t charities to provinces that make it clear they don’t want people flying in so good for AC. I do hope people who bought tickets to a city that has been dumped get a refund though. Otherwise that’s basically theft.

[DHC-1 Jockey]

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/busines ... of-demand/

By Jan. 23, Air Canada will cease flying to Prince Rupert, Kamloops, Fredericton, Yellowknife, and Gander and Goose Bay in Newfoundland.

That about only leaves St. John’s!

Looks like St. John’s is cut too.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfound ... -1.5870725

Air Canada is slashing all service to Labrador and cutting two more routes out of Newfoundland, the company said Tuesday.

Service between Gander and Halifax, Goose Bay and Halifax, and St. John's and Toronto ends Jan. 23.

[Torontomaplelaughs]

The airlines have a loan to the tune of several billion on the backs of the taxpayers which should be paid with interest.

I don’t take my car to the automotive shop and pay if they’ve failed to provide a service. The airlines cancelled flights - the public should be repaid with interest.. .

Airlines have received CEWS/ CERB..

The airlines are no more or less viable than any other business.

A so called essential service is failing to provide a service and is now choosing to not serve the Canadian public.

The airlines should have saved for a rainy day. Plain and simple...scrimp and save! - free market economics.

No major purchases. ( Transat) .. if they need money sell some assets like the rest of us.

The other question is why Canadians need a bailout .. nobody is scrimping and saving ...IMO people should have the funds to weather the storm without Justin coming to the rescue.

Why is AC pulling out of communities and PASCO stepping in?

Hopefully this is a lesson in customer service for these large corporations.. one only needs to look at the comments section of many of these news articles .. the taxpayer is not impressed with the service and does not want a industry bailout.

Someone will fill the void..

I’m sorry for those who will lose their jobs as a result of this mess. I’d imagine they’ll be picked up in short order.

Pasco

No disrespect to Pacific Coastal. They are good at what they do.

But the B1900 isn’t going to do it son

[GhostRider6]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FNIjn1dZvn4


To quote the Conservative party of Canada finance critic: “ if the business needs government support .. it’s a loser.”

Aviation has had CEWS, airport land/ rent relief, around 17 M in relief for northern aviation another 174 M for Canadian regional aviation.

On top of several billion in un refunded tickets...

It’s sad to say but ... the industry as a whole should have been prepared and went into this downturn without enough of a nest egg ..and we all need to pay the piper.

The government has an obligation to all sectors that are struggling.. not just one.

It’s also a small segment of the economy a several thousand jobs lost while sad is a... relative drop in the bucket when other sector’s unemployment numbers are accounted for.. we can’t think only ourselves.

Best of luck to everyone..

[fish4life]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FNIjn1dZvn4


To quote the Conservative party of Canada finance critic: “ if the business needs government support .. it’s a loser.”

Aviation has had CEWS, airport land/ rent relief, around 17 M in relief for northern aviation another 174 M for Canadian regional aviation.

On top of several billion in un refunded tickets...

It’s sad to say but ... the industry as a whole should have been prepared and went into this downturn without enough of a nest egg ..and we all need to pay the piper.

The government has an obligation to all sectors that are struggling.. not just one.

It’s also a small segment of the economy a several thousand jobs lost while sad is a... relative drop in the bucket when other sector’s unemployment numbers are accounted for.. we can’t think only ourselves.

Best of luck to everyone..

There is a difference between a rainy day and government regulations that hurt business. If the government didn’t have any testing or quarantine requirements and it was just the general population that was unwilling to fly that is one thing, it’s another when government regulations make the business extremely tough to operate.

WestJet as an example went from

http://westjet.mediaroom.com/2020-12-16 ... y-schedule

To

http://westjet.mediaroom.com/2021-01-08 ... ing-Regime

As a result of the government not free market forces

[GhostRider6]

So.. the sector now believes it’s above the law? I haven’t seen family including my son during this time due to COVID. I don’t go out... groceries only.

He puts it best: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e0-2XxgHIXk

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/m.huffingto ... 68bf3b808/


The airlines should have been prepared to operate an essential service basis for essential reasons...period.. someone or something will take it’s place.

Again, to Quote Pierre Pollivere “ if the business needs a government bailout.. its a loser.”


It’s sad.. no doubt about that.. but this is the way life is ..

[FL320]

Again, to Quote Pierre Pollivere “ if the business needs a government bailout.. its a loser.”
It’s sad.. no doubt about that.. but this is the way life is ..

If an individual needs the Government to get EI, CEWS, free helthcare system, child benefits, free school, or the need of a bank to get a mortgage,etc......does he also qualify as a loser? Are you not using any government benefits in your daily life GostRider?

[chaster]

So.. the sector now believes it’s above the law? I haven’t seen family including my son during this time due to COVID. I don’t go out... groceries only.

He puts it best: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e0-2XxgHIXk

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/m.huffingto ... 68bf3b808/


The airlines should have been prepared to operate an essential service basis for essential reasons...period.. someone or something will take it’s place.

Again, to Quote Pierre Pollivere “ if the business needs a government bailout.. its a loser.”


It’s sad.. no doubt about that.. but this is the way life is ..

Right on point Ghost Rider! NOTTTTTTT!! Its like sending a boxer in the ring with 2 hands tied behind his back! Do you know Howan Airline operates? When an Aircraft can cost upwards to 1 Million a month to lease there are very few if any airlines on the planet that can pay back future bookings in the current environment.The Govt of Canada has essentially shut us down !!! Keep listening to Justin my friend and while your hid away May i suggest you hide your money in a safe place cause his coming for yours next!!

[fish4life]

So.. the sector now believes it’s above the law? I haven’t seen family including my son during this time due to COVID. I don’t go out... groceries only.

He puts it best: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e0-2XxgHIXk

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/m.huffingto ... 68bf3b808/


The airlines should have been prepared to operate an essential service basis for essential reasons...period.. someone or something will take it’s place.

Again, to Quote Pierre Pollivere “ if the business needs a government bailout.. its a loser.”


It’s sad.. no doubt about that.. but this is the way life is ..

What sector believes it’s above the law? Non-essential travel hasn’t been against the law it’s just requested you avoid it not must avoid

[dhc#]

More cuts just announced by AC

https://aircanada.mediaroom.com/Air-Can ... Reductions

[Torontomaplelaughs]

There are some bitter folks on here that didn't make it to the airlines.

Let me just say there is no life like it and can't wait to be globetrotting again...

[Freeport_Flyer]

More cuts just announced by AC

https://aircanada.mediaroom.com/Air-Can ... Reductions

Pretty thin on details. Not surprising though with the US moving to required pre-arrival COVID testing starting Jan 26.

[Cavalier44]

More cuts just announced by AC

https://aircanada.mediaroom.com/Air-Can ... Reductions

Pretty thin on details. Not surprising though with the US moving to required pre-arrival COVID testing starting Jan 26.

Indeed. I'm curious to know how the 200 layoffs will be absorbed at Express - Sky in particular seems very exposed if cross-border travel starts to diminish further. Wishing everyone the best of luck in these difficult and uncertain times.

[Fanblade]

More cuts just announced by AC

https://aircanada.mediaroom.com/Air-Can ... Reductions

Pretty thin on details. Not surprising though with the US moving to required pre-arrival COVID testing starting Jan 26.

Proof of vaccination right around the corner. Most Canadians won’t be able to travel outside Canada this summer because we are slow on the vaccination process. In fact it is probable that some Provinces may implement bubbles where only vaccinated outsiders can enter.

The airlines are realizing it will be summer 2022 before things get normal both internationally and domestically.

Clearly there will be no aid to the industry. They can’t just bleed for another year. They have to act.

[McKinley]

I can hold the fact that there’s a virus that is taxing the healthcare system and travel needs to be restricted - fair enough.

With the slow vaccination rate I agree on 2022. I also don’t think the industry has bottomed yet. ( sadly)

I can see travel restrictions still existing after vaccinations are complete.

So much more could have been done: loans, freezing taxes/ fees, utilizing the sector for vaccine distribution..

AC/ WJ cannot subsidize Canadian’s travel..especially in the absence of sector specific support. One has to wonder, why, with the landmass/ population spread Canada has .. why Canada is a global leader in sector specific inaction.

CEWS is useless if the company ceases to exist. CEWS cannot replace the benefits, incomes, retirement saving ,travel benefits... things employees will use and contribute to the economy as a result.

I don’t know how JT thinks he’ll pay off that trillion without jobs and a robust aviation sector.

Best of luck all..

[rudder]

The airlines are realizing it will be summer 2022 before things get normal both internationally and domestically.

What is your definition of ‘normal’?

[Fanblade]

The airlines are realizing it will be summer 2022 before things get normal both internationally and domestically.

What is your definition of ‘normal’?

Ha! Being able to freely travel. So long as you have proof of vaccination. If you don’t have proof of vaccination you may not be able to leave your province depending on where you live.

[palebird]

Normal?? What's that?

[McKinley]

This looks like the “new normal” apparently...

Give it a scan.. it’s certainly interesting.

( especially the anti-aviation propaganda)


https://greatreset.com/?fbclid=IwAR2_hL ... EOn63Cilok

[rudder]

This looks like the “new normal” apparently...

Give it a scan.. it’s certainly interesting.

( especially the anti-aviation propaganda)


https://greatreset.com/?fbclid=IwAR2_hL ... EOn63Cilok

That’s the point. There is no return to 2019.

For example, in 2019 AC was competing against TS. In 2022, TS will be part of AC.

In 2019, business class travel represented 20% of revenue but 80% of profit. What will business travel demand look like in 2022?

The question is how close will we ever get to 2019. For many of us, our carriers will be lucky to get back to 80%.

[McKinley]

Did you give it a scroll ?

This isn’t a conspiracy.. it’s out in the open! It’s a WEF agenda.

These guys fly into a resort town yearly in an armada of private jets to discuss how the rest of us serfs are going to live.

I’m all for the survival of the planet .. but let’s all get in on making the sacrifices.

There’s literally propaganda in fine print touting how great “ lockdown staycations are.”

I fear for society as a whole...

[DHC-1 Jockey]

More route cuts announced:

https://ottawa-citynews-ca.cdn.ampproje ... er-3258580

As part of a 25 per cent reduction in service for the first quarter of 2021, affecting another 200 employees at Air Canada's Express carriers, the company said Wednesday, that it will be cutting flights from Ottawa to Calgary and Vancouver, starting January 23.

[McKinley]

https://greatreset.com/?fbclid=IwAR2_hL ... EOn63Cilok



From the website in fine print:

“ lockdown was great wasn’t it? No commute, leisurely danders around to the corner shop instead of jumping into the car for every journey.......

Instead of going back to the same old, let’s continue our lockdown positive behaviors.. fill in the above and share it in car windows as a reminder.”