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Re: CYNJ CADORS

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Canoehead wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 3:56 pmI'm actually curious as to why these events are happening so often? Is language a contributing factor?
Your post is right on all counts... And everyone is wondering why CYNJ is singled out. It's extremely odd, because one would think that many of these aircraft visit other airports in the lower mainland once in a while, especially when it comes to the students. When I was learning (at ZBB) we regularly flew to YPK, YNJ, and YXX for touch-and-goes.

Language is a barrier at many of the schools in the lower mainland, not just CYNJ, so I don't see that being the driving factor either.

It's been postulated that the reports are being kept high so the necessity of keeping a tower there is ensured. Unfortunately, a side effect is that it's making the airport look like the most dangerous one in the lower mainland... And if the NIMBY's get hold of that info, they would surely clamor for it to be shut down.
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I would still like to know if all controllers rewriting reports. Our just one controller. I believe if you look into it the majority are done by one individual.
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godsrcrazy wrote: Fri Feb 26, 2021 3:44 pm I would still like to know if all controllers rewriting reports. Our just one controller. I believe if you look into it the majority are done by one individual.
The wording is all similar in the ones i've read, but that could be TC moderating them before they get posted to CADORs. There's no way to tell from the CADORs database which controller submitted the report, even in an anonymized fashion.
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Sorry to keep coming back to this. And good morning.
Live ATC now has now been established at Langley. Ground and Tower.
And that’s a good thing.

It doesn’t appear to be working...at least not for me as yet. There was an archive item I was asked to review.

It’s my understanding that when Transport asks for a recording of a tape all they get is a transcript. Which allows for Nav Canada to in effect edit the tape. There can be radio transmissions relevant to the Transcript that have been omitted in that Transcript. With Live ATC and the archive one can listen to all of the tape not just the segment where there error occurs. And this can be relevant to your CaDOR. If it’s your radio call/actions that you are reviewing you will be able to relive the moment, and what you were thinking and self evaluate the quality of your radio effectiveness.

Airport diagrams on Foreflight which reference CFS and CAP and something else show taxiway C in 3 different places. “Unfamiliar” and “Progressive taxi” should be a part of a pilots vocabulary at this airport.
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patter wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 12:05 pmWhich allows for Nav Canada to in effect edit the tape. There can be radio transmissions relevant to the Transcript that have been omitted in that Transcript. With Live ATC and the archive one can listen to all of the tape not just the segment where there error occurs.
Unless the segment on LiveATC has been edited as well. They do remove segments on request of certain organizations.
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Another bumper crop of CADORS for Langley today. Check the Pacific Region, Regional Report (07/04/2021). Of twenty four reports, thirteen are for Langley.
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The Langley CADORs are starting to sound like Russian dashcam videos. :lol:

I learned to fly there and kept my own plane there for several years. It had its issues but was never the zoo it appears to have become.

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