Hauling Gasoline Incident

[pelmet]

It might make sense for a crewmember to be familiar with, and check the cargo fuel system before departure when hauling fuel......

"C-GANF, a de Havilland DHC-8-100 aircraft operated by Wasaya Airways LP, was conducting
flight WSG814 from Pickle Lake (CYPL), ON to Kingfisher Lake (CNM5), ON. The aircraft was
transporting unleaded gasoline in a collapsible tank installed in the cabin. Shortly after departing
CYPL the flight crew noticed a strong odour of unleaded gasoline in the flight deck. The first officer
entered the cabin to investigate and discovered that the 2 vent line valves were open and the line
had been left un-capped allowing gasoline to spill into the cabin. The first officer closed the vent
line and the flow of gasoline ceased. The flight crew depressurized and ventilated the aircraft, and
elected to return to CYPL. An emergency was declared and the subsequent landing was
uneventful. After shutdown some gasoline leaked from the aircraft fuselage onto the apron and
prompted spill response procedures."

[valleyboy]

It might make sense for a crewmember to be familiar with, and check the cargo fuel system before departure when hauling fuel......

The master of understatement

[Bede]

I hate hauling fuel.

I was flying a 206 with 2 drums of diesel and a 100 lbs propane canister over the rough tundra a couple decades ago. I must have ingested some water in the engine and the engine coughed for a few seconds before returning to life as if nothing had happened. Scared the crap out of me.

All I could think of was me making a survivable landing and having the diesel drums break free and crack open and the propane exploding setting the diesel and me aflame. Still makes me shudder.

[digits_]

I hate hauling fuel.

I was flying a 206 with 2 drums of diesel and a 100 lbs propane canister over the rough tundra a couple decades ago. I must have ingested some water in the engine and the engine coughed for a few seconds before returning to life as if nothing had happened. Scared the crap out of me.

All I could think of was me making a survivable landing and having the diesel drums break free and crack open and the propane exploding setting the diesel and me aflame. Still makes me shudder.

What do you mean? Didn't they have dangerous goods training that would have kept you safe?

[FL030]

A Wasaya Hawker 748 burned to the ground hauling fuel a few years back. I'm glad to hear no damage or injuries this time. Nice work by the pilots.

[valleyboy]

Wasaya was a fire on the ground from an uncertified pump I believe. Austin blew a hawker up at Moose's knee on startup and switching the inverters on. Lucky there was a crew door, the crew got out through the side windows.

I have hauled many gallons/litres of bulk fuel and gas. The only aircraft with a "comfortable" system was the Herc.

[goingnowherefast]

It might make sense for a crewmember to be familiar with, and check the cargo fuel system before departure when hauling fuel......

The master of understatement

Can't one trust the ground crew to close a few valves? I mean Air Canada trust fuellers to close the fuel panel. Rampies can secure bags, close bag doors, remove chocks, even do a push back! Closing and capping some lines doesn't sound that difficult for the ground crew.

[valleyboy]

Can't one trust the ground crew to close a few valves? I mean Air Canada trust fuellers to close the fuel panel. Rampies can secure bags, close bag doors, remove chocks, even do a push back! Closing and capping some lines doesn't sound that difficult for the ground crew.

Sit back and re-read your statement. We are talking a remote area where it's self dispatch, one possibly poorly trained guy, possibly already done a long shit and had been kept to load aircraft. It is understood that the crew checks the load and possibly the ramp guy never even was in the aircraft.

It ain't Air Canada, there is a common comment made here, you can use your imagination on working conditions, Savant Lake is the asshole of the world and Pickle Lake is 200km up it.

Come work in NWO and take a backwards time warp. Operationally not much has changed here since the 80's

The buck stops with the captain, plain and simple. I think that goes for all levels of aviation.

[The Mole]

Operationally for a small company it's cheaper and easier to just blame the captain for all failures. AC has procedures and training for all those jobs listed since airline pilots "just" drive.

[valleyboy]

Operationally for a small company it's cheaper and easier to just blame the captain for all failures. AC has procedures and training for all those jobs listed since airline pilots "just" drive.

Oh my!!!! he's in my seat

[albertdesalvo]

Photoshopped. He only has three bars.

[valleyboy]

He only has three bars.

Exactly -- the pic is a wanabe in my seat and has not had intercourse with the world yet. No tools to see the big picture at this point in time.

[Maynard]

I have hauled many gallons/litres of bulk fuel and gas. The only aircraft with a "comfortable" system was the Herc.

You need to add fuelboss to that list . No bladders, no barrels, no configuration changes.

[valleyboy]

You need to add fuelboss to that list . No bladders, no barrels, no configuration changes.

LOL -- and no help -- I sat up front and had a hot meal on fuel turns With a 4 inch discharge the herc could off load 20,000L+ in less than 15 minutes. To add to your "happyness" loads were chained down. Could never figure out why there were called "Herc Straps"