Private Jets & COVID rules

[MrWings]

Is it strange that CBC came here looking to find a story that doesn’t really exist. They literally have a narrative fabricated and they will do whatever they can to create this story.

What exactly do you see wrong with the story? It is literally happening exactly as reported. You can bypass mandatory hotel stays if you land at a smaller airport. A lot of private guys are doing it. It is a loophole. If you are trying to control the import of variants, allowing people to bypass screening doesn’t cut it.

[MrWings]

A reporter trolling for information to create hysterical headlines? Should earn the privilege by establishing credibility -- by answering my very reasonable questions.

A reporter has no right be here, and the Mods should kick any off that show up.

Your questions were stupid. You want anyone that talks with a reporter to have complete editorial control? Idiotic suggestion. Any true reporter would laugh at that suggestion. Trust me, she did. That’s why you didn’t get an answer.

Kick off any reporter? So much for free speech and defending your stance.

You got a lot to learn rookie.

[780Pilot]

Aren't those flights landing anywhere other then the main 4 airports just crew repositioning? There completely exempt. Flt aware doesn't tell you who's on board but I'm pretty sure they just assumed there were passengers on board. Hit job imo.

[schnitzel2k3]

So my question is, how are they qualifying this publicly available data. Nearly all the flights into and out of airports like Hamilton from international destinations are cargo OR medevac - which - surprise surprise - operate Learjets and Gulfstream. They are also all blocked, so indistinguishable from any other private jet flight.

[rookiepilot]

A reporter trolling for information to create hysterical headlines? Should earn the privilege by establishing credibility -- by answering my very reasonable questions.

A reporter has no right be here, and the Mods should kick any off that show up.

Your questions were stupid. You want anyone that talks with a reporter to have complete editorial control? Idiotic suggestion. Any true reporter would laugh at that suggestion. Trust me, she did. That’s why you didn’t get an answer.

Kick off any reporter? So much for free speech and defending your stance.

You got a lot to learn rookie.

This is exactly what the White House is doing now. Complete editorial control.

[fish4life]

From the article
“Many of the private flights entering Canada from the U.S. originate in states that have no current mask mandate and few, if any, COVID-related restrictions, like Florida and Arizona.”

What she fails to mention is those places are also at that point because of their high vaccination rates but hey why take away from a bs story

[RRJetPilot]

Aren't those flights landing anywhere other then the main 4 airports just crew repositioning? There completely exempt. Flt aware doesn't tell you who's on board but I'm pretty sure they just assumed there were passengers on board. Hit job imo.

Ding Ding Ding. They assumed there were people on board who were skirting restrictions which is 100% false. So the whole article is literally the stupidest piece of writing ever published. And here we have "Mr Wings" saying he know she is laughing at the poster asking questions. Well MrWings, you can let your friend know we are ALL laughing at her incompetence. She made a fool of herself and now we know her name to avoid CBC and her articles in the future.
Please let her know.

[CpnCrunch]

If you look up Chartright they are 604/703/704 which are all covered by the COVID NOTAM which require them to land at one of the 4 airports if they are transporting passengers. So if they are landing at one of the other airports it means they are not transporting passengers. Simple as that!

I think the only people who might be able to skirt the quarantine are individuals who own their own plane. So going after Chartright doesn't really make sense. But the other workaround if you don't want to stay in a quarantine hotel is to drive across the border and fly from the US, and that applies to your regular joe flying the airlines as well as people renting a private jet.

Anyway, travel right now is just a bit too much of a pain in the ass, and if someone does really want to jump through various hoops to lie on the beach somewhere sunny I don't really give a rats ass.

[PitchLink]

I'd be curious to know how many trips on corporate jets are really essential.

Not to worry though, I am sure the paperwork says they all are.

The answer is absolutely none, however the paperwork would absolutely be (debatable)

[PitchLink]

Hey CBC reporter, you literally live off of handouts and government bailouts to survive. Your wage is paid by OUR MONEY. Your viewership is decreasing and so is your ad revenue. This year you need another 800 Million ON TOP of what you normally get. Now I dont want to get personal but as an organization that wouldn't exist without MY TAX DOLLARS, how about you support other struggling industries instead of attacking them at EVERY opportunity.
Covid has been the biggest devastation in the aviation industry in the history of Canada, 100x worst than 911. How about you use your unlimited funds to support fellow Canadians instead of look for more stories to hurt our industry. These are mothers, brothers, neighbors, and friends, that are all unemployed losing their HIGHLY specialized skills waiting for the government to make a plan to restart travel.

Respectfully, I wouldn't sleep at night If was you. Hope you see the light and start supporting Canadians in the darkest hour. Karma is real.

What in high heaven are you babbling about? Find a job yourself and stop living off taxpayers and expecting "the government" to help you, so hypocritical.

Oh ya, blame the government for not "restarting travel". Where you going smart guy? Is the rest of the world open for business and it's just us not traveling?

"highly specialized skills"? the reality is no, it's not and requires very little education. Not to mention that automation is taking our jobs away too. Time to retrain or stop complaining.

It is highly specialized to fix and or fly this junk, doesn’t make it a long training initial process for said skills to start out, but to get proficient at either you need years of training and additional education for sure. Said skills aren’t easily transferable therefore highly specialized.

[PitchLink]

Hey CBC reporter, you literally live off of handouts and government bailouts to survive. Your wage is paid by OUR MONEY. Your viewership is decreasing and so is your ad revenue. This year you need another 800 Million ON TOP of what you normally get. Now I dont want to get personal but as an organization that wouldn't exist without MY TAX DOLLARS, how about you support other struggling industries instead of attacking them at EVERY opportunity.
Covid has been the biggest devastation in the aviation industry in the history of Canada, 100x worst than 911. How about you use your unlimited funds to support fellow Canadians instead of look for more stories to hurt our industry. These are mothers, brothers, neighbors, and friends, that are all unemployed losing their HIGHLY specialized skills waiting for the government to make a plan to restart travel.

Respectfully, I wouldn't sleep at night If was you. Hope you see the light and start supporting Canadians in the darkest hour. Karma is real.

What in high heaven are you babbling about? Find a job yourself and stop living off taxpayers and expecting "the government" to help you, so hypocritical.

Oh ya, blame the government for not "restarting travel". Where you going smart guy? Is the rest of the world open for business and it's just us not traveling?

"highly specialized skills"? the reality is no, it's not and requires very little education. Not to mention that automation is taking our jobs away too. Time to retrain or stop complaining.

It is highly specialized to fix and or fly this junk, doesn’t make it a long training initial process for said skills to start out, but to get proficient at either you need years of training and additional education for sure. Said skills aren’t easily transferable therefore highly specialized.

[Blueontop]

Quote from the article, it even admits they have no idea who or even how many on board. But let’s make the public think the worse.

“A CBC News analysis of data from Feb. 22 to April 26 provided by flight tracking company FlightAware reveals 884 private flights from international destinations to a random sampling of nine airports that don't have quarantine hotels, including in Hamilton, Ottawa, London, Ont., Kelowna, B.C., St. John's and Edmonton.

The aircraft captured in the data include luxury and executive private jets, recreational aircraft and helicopters. That data does not contain any information about passengers, including the number of people on board.”

[Bug_Stomper_01]

Well if federal and provincial governments were concerned about international travel there would be ramped up security at all border crossed aircraft period.
Nobody should be crossing borders right now except for work and emergency reasons.
As for “business travel” I’m certain that definition as Always is being very loosely defined. Some larger management companies regularly bend rules and regs in the best of times to save the owners a few bucks to over ingratiate. With COVID19 in the picture those old habits die hard with a narrowing profit margin for the foreseeable future, and some pretty uncertain long term prospects of business travel in a now forever changed world stage.

[tsgarp]

If Katien trashed the racist right wing Epoch Times then she is a hero.

I'll talk with her.

Well, we know who the CHICOMs are paying to monitor this site.

[RRJetPilot]

Looks like Defund CBC is trending again on twitter.
This time because they wasted our money on a frivolous lawsuit against the Conservatives during the last election.

[AirFrame]

They then proceed to quote a random loser in Scotland...

Good to see reading comprehension ranks highly for you. The "random loser" was Canadian, studying in Scotland, and is home in Canada now and quarantining.

[rigpiggy]

So true, but some desperate attention seeking soul can now brag to his mom he was quoted in an "interview"

Last interview I had they declined to use the footage "Air Rage" just before 9/11. Note to self when some idjit with a camera come up to you, be rude right off and tell them to "Fornicate away from you" versus being polite, saves them time right off.....

[RRJetPilot]

They then proceed to quote a random loser in Scotland...

Good to see reading comprehension ranks highly for you. The "random loser" was Canadian, studying in Scotland, and is home in Canada now and quarantining.

It was such garbage i skimmed through it. And it really doesn't change any of the articles points or premise. I usually avoid CBC articles like the plague as I dont want to give them any clicks or ad revenue. Pure trash and the journalist should feel ashamed of her work.

[pelmet]

viewtopic.php?f=105&t=145779

Parallel thread on this forum about the same subject.

[rookiepilot]

Maybe instead of corporate flying being put on trial, the Media should be put on trial.

They are hounding this poor family in my neck of the woods so much, the police have to ask them to stop.

Maybe this reporter would like to comment?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ ... -1.6031920

[rigpiggy]

Stuff like this is a great reason to block yourself on 3rd party sites. My boss had me do it so his ex-wife couldn't track him. Whats your reason?

[PitchLink]

Maybe instead of corporate flying being put on trial, the Media should be put on trial.

They are hounding this poor family in my neck of the woods so much, the police have to ask them to stop.

Maybe this reporter would like to comment?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ ... -1.6031920

It is pretty hypocritical to the lay person not involved in the flying biz. I know for a fact that lots of this cross border flying is not work related. It should be all or none but life isn’t fair and the two tier rules do exist always have always will

[Bug_Stomper_01]

Maybe instead of corporate flying being put on trial, the Media should be put on trial.

They are hounding this poor family in my neck of the woods so much, the police have to ask them to stop.

Maybe this reporter would like to comment?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ ... -1.6031920

It is pretty hypocritical to the lay person not involved in the flying biz. I know for a fact that lots of this cross border flying is not work related. It should be all or none but life isn’t fair and the two tier rules do exist always have always will

Same, it’s a pretty big joke, I know a few guys at some corporate companies got covid during this. So stupid, but vaccines are rolling ahead slowly so yay!

[rookiepilot]

Here's the thing. The Media like the CBC.......

IF they did their Job .... properly....there are LOTS of valid issues to write about.

How about the continuing sellout to the mega corporate retailers, at the expense of small business? Why not shame some of these guys for any multitude of things, like fighting their Covid related closures, shopping government's for the biggest tax incentives, and firing anyone who advocates for union representation?

Governments have become absolute whores to big business, and have abandoned small business.

Write about that!

Back to the leafs game...

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Unfortunately, it is possible to reintroduce restrictive measures for air transport in many countries.

These rules were stupid from day one. They are just realizing it now, so to save face they say they are taking a "conservative approach to opening up, and following the science." They're not going to lock down again