ALPA Criticizes Cargojet
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Transport Canada shouldn’t allow cargo jet any fatigue rule exemptions since they are trying to use it as a scare tactic and not doing it for science based / specific sector reasons
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If you're using Firefox you can go into reader view and refresh.DHC-1 Jockey wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 5:57 pmIt's behind a paywall I can't read.notwhoyouthinkIam wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 5:26 pm So much good that did.
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Still easily could be a scare tactic, pretty easy for them to fire up that ad. Besides, haven’t all the American majors recalled/given recall dates to their Pilots , so it’s unlikely they will get a flood of type rated guys applying. Also if there is even any American Pilots that do apply, chances are they laugh at the offer if Cargojet plans to pay anywhere close to Canadian Pilot pay rates.Tdicommuter wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 4:24 am https://pilotcareercentre.com/Pilot-Job ... irways-Ltd.
That did not take long.
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What are they going to do? N register a few aircraft and get a US operating certificate so they can fly aircraft with US contract pilots? Start a new business with new managers and DFOs and CPs and PRMs and everything that goes with it? Won't it will take a while to get FAA approvals etc? All so they can fly their pilots am extra hour here or there? That sure sounds like a money saver...Tdicommuter wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 4:24 am https://pilotcareercentre.com/Pilot-Job ... irways-Ltd.
That did not take long.
This looks more like a show to me. Let Virmani have his tantrum.
For good measure, let's see ALPA and DePete follow up on their previous letter of concern and put an advisory out to US pilots to blacklist applications to this position.
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I get the sense they were planning on doing the US company anyway to try take advantage of the market down there since you can’t do point you point anyway. All the fatigue exemptions in the world can’t change that.
I’m disappointed our regulator hasn’t come out with a statement saying it will not condone this behaviour by cargo jet threatening fatigue rules for jobs.
I’m disappointed our regulator hasn’t come out with a statement saying it will not condone this behaviour by cargo jet threatening fatigue rules for jobs.
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What a fucking concept that would be right? They spend years developing new fatigue rules that at least make a modicum of sense scientifically speaking but then give operators the ability to completely ignore these rules? And tell pilots their jobs will be on the line if they don't toe the line? This is disgraceful.
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Did CJT buy Amerijet, or take a controlling interest?
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They have an interest in this company, but the ownership stake is unknown. Fleet of 2 cargo B767, based in MIA and CVG.
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They're advertising for contract CAPT's and F/O's to be based in Mexico City as well.
https://pilotcareercentre.com/Pilot-Job ... irways-Ltd.
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Why do you want it to become nasty? Nasty for Canadian pilots, for sure.
Since nobody has the balls to tell companies to stop this shit, this is the first step to outsource our jobs.
I won't be surprised to have other companies outsource as well...
This is getting interesting.
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ALPA has already sent out a strongly worded letter. Unfortunately, Unifor doesn't seem to care much what ALPA thinks.Babar350 wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 7:23 pmWhy do you want it to become nasty? Nasty for Canadian pilots, for sure.
Since nobody has the balls to tell companies to stop this shit, this is the first step to outsource our jobs.
I won't be surprised to have other companies outsource as well...
This is getting interesting.
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My gut says strike now before the jobs leave Canada for good. But I'm not at the table... This government will not lift a finger to help pilots. If Amazon pressures CJ to resolve the issue and they can't or won't maybe Flightcraft can get back in the game, or either of the big guys can...
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ALPA’s response should be an article how Cargojet’s tactics are nothing more than employee intimidation. The Cargojet pilots collective agreement is public knowledge, they could compare their pay scales to those of their US competitors. Would paint a pretty clear picture that utilizing American pilots would cost them significantly more, probably even double overall.
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Flair pilots petitioning CIRB during open period to change to ALPA for representation.
Just sayin……
Just sayin……
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Free advice
You're a CP at a carrier where the pilots are rep'd by unifor. Might not be the best thing to throw up on the forum..
You're a CP at a carrier where the pilots are rep'd by unifor. Might not be the best thing to throw up on the forum..