VIDEO: Aftermath of Beech A36 Bonanza’s Rejected Takeoff, 28 May 2021, Idaho

[challenger_nami]

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Beechcraft A36 Bonanza loses control and crashes in the ditch after the rejected takeoff.
The airplane was taking off with gusty tailwind from a 3300’ one way high density altitude gravel airstrip in the Rocky mountains of Idaho:

Broncolirio’s VIDEO: https://youtu.be/ZVJOdkj5UBg

DATE: 28 May 2021
Sulphur Creek, Idaho
2 occupants, no fatalities.

Crashing where they crashed was probably better than crashing in the trees down the runway.

Let the nay sayers say their nays.




P.S.

NORTHSHORE wrote:
Nami: Easy with the disparaging comments about others - we're all on the same team here.

Question for Moderator @Northshore only:
Northshore, against who did I make “disparaging comments” on the other thread that you locked? Quote me.

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[photofly]

The pilot lost directional control on the takeoff roll, departed the runway surface onto rough ground, and then decided to reject the takeoff. I don't think anyone would argue with that decision at that time.

[rookiepilot]

The pilot lost directional control on the takeoff roll, departed the runway surface onto rough ground, and then decided to reject the takeoff. I don't think anyone would argue with that decision at that time.

Don't Feed the Trolls.

[challenger_nami]

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Haha


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[pelmet]

Strong, gusty winds probably don’t mix well with high density altitudes. Things that one may be able to power out of at low density altitudes may not be so easy to do at higher density altitudes.

We weren’t there but I suppose Juan was and his statement about waiting it out sounds smart.

Always best to try and plan ahead so that outside pressures such as deadlines don’t enter the picture.

[CpnCrunch]

Sounds similar to Ben Younger's accident, also in a Bonanza:

https://www.flyingmag.com/leading-edge- ... -thin-air/

[rookiepilot]

Strong, gusty winds probably don’t mix well with high density altitudes. Things that one may be able to power out of at low density altitudes may not be so easy to do at higher density altitudes.

We weren’t there but I suppose Juan was and his statement about waiting it out sounds smart.

Always best to try and plan ahead so that outside pressures such as deadlines don’t enter the picture.

I'm trying to ascertain what I've just learned here that wasn't already clear from the video (from someone who was there, mind you)

We don't know if outside pressures or "deadlines" came into it whatsoever. You know something we don't?

Maybe it was just a random hard gust of wind, not unknown on a strip like that, and / or partial loss, for all we know.

[pelmet]

Strong, gusty winds probably don’t mix well with high density altitudes. Things that one may be able to power out of at low density altitudes may not be so easy to do at higher density altitudes.

We weren’t there but I suppose Juan was and his statement about waiting it out sounds smart.

Always best to try and plan ahead so that outside pressures such as deadlines don’t enter the picture.

I'm trying to ascertain what I've just learned here that wasn't already clear from the video (from someone who was there, mind you)

We don't know if outside pressures or "deadlines" came into it whatsoever. You know something we don't?

Maybe it was just a random hard gust of wind, not unknown on a strip like that, and / or partial loss, for all we know.

I have no idea what you have or have not learned. My posts are not specifically directed toward you.

My mention of deadlines or outside pressures is very apt as an overall point of view and has resulted in many deaths. The video mentioned the poor conditions of the previous day while it appears ideal the following day.

While there are no doubt differences, this accident reminds me of the Bonanza accident that happened to one of the newer writers at Flying magazine.

Suggest having a lower threshold for no go at higher density altitudes, especially in the mountains.

[rookiepilot]

I have no idea what you have or have not learned.

Nothing. Zero, from this post. One way strips are tricky, hence the video of it was interesting.

Density altitude is taught in ground school, in the initial stages of PPL training, as are the effects of gusty wind conditions.

There isn't a pilot here who isn't aware of these principles. I hope.

You do the math, using the POH for the proposed flight. It either works or it doesn't.

The airplane is well maintained and making the required power, and the pilot not drunk, high or exhausted, and able to competently fly, or not.

Nothing new.

[Capt. Underpants]

Question for Moderator @Northshore only:
Northshore, against who did I make “disparaging comments” on the other thread that you locked? Quote me.

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If you really need to ask, then I think you’ve identified the problem.

[photofly]

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[photofly]

Strong, gusty winds probably don’t mix well with high density altitudes. Things that one may be able to power out of at low density altitudes may not be so easy to do at higher density altitudes.

We weren’t there but I suppose Juan was and his statement about waiting it out sounds smart.

Always best to try and plan ahead so that outside pressures such as deadlines don’t enter the picture.

I'm trying to ascertain what I've just learned here that wasn't already clear from the video (from someone who was there, mind you)

We don't know if outside pressures or "deadlines" came into it whatsoever. You know something we don't?

Maybe it was just a random hard gust of wind, not unknown on a strip like that, and / or partial loss, for all we know.

I have no idea what you have or have not learned. My posts are not specifically directed toward you.

My mention of deadlines or outside pressures is very apt as an overall point of view and has resulted in many deaths. The video mentioned the poor conditions of the previous day while it appears ideal the following day.

While there are no doubt differences, this accident reminds me of the Bonanza accident that happened to one of the newer writers at Flying magazine.

Suggest having a lower threshold for no go at higher density altitudes, especially in the mountains.

The guy went off the side of the runway. Before the abort. Bonanzas aren’t great rough field machines, as far as I know. All the DA calculations in the world won’t help if you don’t keep it on the prepared surface.

[photofly]

Double post

[pelmet]

I have no idea what you have or have not learned.

Nothing. Zero, from this post. One way strips are tricky, hence the video of it was interesting.

Density altitude is taught in ground school, in the initial stages of PPL training, as are the effects of gusty wind conditions.

There isn't a pilot here who isn't aware of these principles. I hope.

Based on the number of accidents due to lack of performance at high density altitudes, I would say that there are a significant number of pilots that are unaware or have forgotten. Having flown at several rental locations in L.A., almost all want a checkout for nearby Big Bear Airport with its high elevation. Why? because people keep crashing at and nearby the airport.

[challenger_nami]

I have no idea what you have or have not learned.

Nothing. Zero, from this post. One way strips are tricky, hence the video of it was interesting.

Density altitude is taught in ground school, in the initial stages of PPL training, as are the effects of gusty wind conditions.

There isn't a pilot here who isn't aware of these principles. I hope.

You do the math, using the POH for the proposed flight. It either works or it doesn't.

The airplane is well maintained and making the required power, and the pilot not drunk, high or exhausted, and able to competently fly, or not.

Nothing new.

There isn't a pilot here who isn't aware of these principles. I hope.

You HOPE???!! Simply ludicrous.

There are a lot of pilots here and in aviation in general who think they know it all, and they don’t need to learn anymore. While in reality, they have major aviation knowledge flaws and deficiencies which have gone unchecked for years, even decades in some cases.

And often, it’s not (just) the knowledge. The attitude is the bigger problem ... and much much more difficult to correct.

I hope the Humanitarian patient transfer organization you claim to volunteer for, takes note of your technical aviation related views and attitude. Before some innocent kid suffers from your lack of ability and willingness to self improve your knowledge and attitude ... and inability and unwillingness to learn from the mistakes made by others who thought they knew it all.


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[‘Bob’]

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