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Are you vaccinated?

Yes, first dose only.
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Yes, both doses .
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No, not yet.
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No, and I don't plan to.
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I WAS Pez
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Re: Are you vaccinated?

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2R wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 7:42 am SMOKING GUN: FAUCI LIED, MILLIONS DIED — Fauci Was Informed of Hydroxychloroquine Success in Early 2020 But Lied to Public Instead Despite the Science #FauciEmails

Cardiologist and Professor of Medicine Peter McCullough testified in Texas earlier this year. Dr. McCullough sees COVID patients and says 85% of COVID patients given multi-drug treatment plan recover from the disease with complete immunity. McCullough added, “The pandemic could have been over by now, he says, if those who tested positive for covid had been immediately treated before they fell ill enough to be hospitalized. He also says that thousands could have been, and still could be saved if the treatment protocol he and other physicians use were not suppressed.”
This is why I don't post to forums.

Can you cite a reputable source for this?

To counter the misinformation:

FDA on Hydroxychloroquine
https://www.fda.gov/drugs/drug-safety-a ... setting-or

Lancet article on same:
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanr ... 8/fulltext

New England Journal of Medicine on same
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2020388

WHO Coronavirus disease (COVID-19) advice for the public: Mythbusters
https://www.who.int/emergencies/disease ... hloroquine
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Re: Are you vaccinated?

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With no health or lifestyle flags my approach has been "Shrug. Whenever." Lots of people need it more than I do.

When I signed up on the B.C. web site I wasn't expecting to hear anything until late summer. I got my Book Your Appointment email within the hour. So I did. My arm hurt and I felt achy and run down for a day. The current schedule suggests I'll get my second dose next month.

I''m more concerned with how we move forward.

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Re: Are you vaccinated?

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CpnCrunch wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 7:50 am
... all the sketchy pilots, Trump supporters and Mennonites.
What a great Venn diagram that would make!

to the OP. Yes to the first, scheduled for the 2nd next week.
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Re: Are you vaccinated?

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I WAS Pez wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 7:53 am
2R wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 7:42 am SMOKING GUN: FAUCI LIED, MILLIONS DIED — Fauci Was Informed of Hydroxychloroquine Success in Early 2020 But Lied to Public Instead Despite the Science #FauciEmails

Cardiologist and Professor of Medicine Peter McCullough testified in Texas earlier this year. Dr. McCullough sees COVID patients and says 85% of COVID patients given multi-drug treatment plan recover from the disease with complete immunity. McCullough added, “The pandemic could have been over by now, he says, if those who tested positive for covid had been immediately treated before they fell ill enough to be hospitalized. He also says that thousands could have been, and still could be saved if the treatment protocol he and other physicians use were not suppressed.”
This is why I don't post to forums.

Can you cite a reputable source for this?
This is from the gateway pundit.

To better understand:

Overall, we rate The Gateway Pundit Questionable based on extreme right-wing bias, promotion of conspiracies, and numerous instances of publishing false (fake) news.


https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-gateway-pundit/

Or in other words, utter hogwash.
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From Pfizer's own website:
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https://www.pfizer.com/news/hot-topics/ ... 19_vaccine

The first line says it all... "... not been approved or licensed..." and for me, that's the deal killer. None of them have been approved, just authorized for 'emergency use'. Once the various vaccines have all finished their long-term clinical testing and have been found to be safe, sign me up. Until then though, I'll just patiently wait.
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Re: Are you vaccinated?

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You should all be aware that since the Pfizer, Moderna, AZ, JnJ, and other vaccines are only approved under an Emergency Use Authorization, if you develop complications or vaccine injuries, you MAY NOT be covered under your life and disability insurance policies. Some companies' - no airlines yet that I've heard of - STD and LTD plans may be compromised.


There are multiple reports of people checking with their insurance companies and being told that the risk is too high.

Everything in life is about risk management. We are pilots, that should be right in our wheelhouse. Currently the risk of severe covid and the risk of becoming a stat in the VAERS is about the same, if you are "genpop". If you are young and fit - newsflash, yearly medicals prove it -, your risk is higher from the vaccine.

This is a risk I am not willing to take. Besides, there are also multiple credible reports of fertility issues in women after having had the vaccine, and my wife and I want more kids.
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Re: Are you vaccinated?

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digits_ wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:07 am
2112 wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 4:48 am
digits_ wrote: Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:35 pm Calling people who don't want the covid vaccines antivaxxers is incorrect and doesn't help anyone.
They aren't Anti-vaxxers they are just pro-disease. I am not nor do I pretend to be smarter than the scientists that developed or the doctors that recommend these vaccines. I was lucky enough to get both doses early on flying medevac. I have flown many covid patients over the last year and a half who instead of being offered a vaccine are now dead. Why don't you guys plug your anti-vaxx stance in your next pax briefings that will put everyone at ease.
How many of those patients were healthy young people?
Age wise I'd say most were middle aged with maybe 2 or three under 30. Can't comment as to their overall health as we as pilots don't get or need that information. Either way being witness to the effects this disease can have was all the proof I needed to sign up for a jab.
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Re: Are you vaccinated?

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2112 wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:32 am Age wise I'd say most were middle aged with maybe 2 or three under 30. Can't comment as to their overall health as we as pilots don't get or need that information. Either way being witness to the effects this disease can have was all the proof I needed to sign up for a jab.
Yep, we now have very good information about the mortality of the virus, and the effects of the vaccines. It's all about decision making, and we know how good pilots are at that.
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Re: Are you vaccinated?

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Aviatard wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 8:59 am
I WAS Pez wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 7:53 am
2R wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 7:42 am SMOKING GUN: FAUCI LIED, MILLIONS DIED — Fauci Was Informed of Hydroxychloroquine Success in Early 2020 But Lied to Public Instead Despite the Science #FauciEmails

Cardiologist and Professor of Medicine Peter McCullough testified in Texas earlier this year. Dr. McCullough sees COVID patients and says 85% of COVID patients given multi-drug treatment plan recover from the disease with complete immunity. McCullough added, “The pandemic could have been over by now, he says, if those who tested positive for covid had been immediately treated before they fell ill enough to be hospitalized. He also says that thousands could have been, and still could be saved if the treatment protocol he and other physicians use were not suppressed.”
This is why I don't post to forums.



Can you cite a reputable source for this?
This is from the gateway pundit.

To better understand:

Overall, we rate The Gateway Pundit Questionable based on extreme right-wing bias, promotion of conspiracies, and numerous instances of publishing false (fake) news.


https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-gateway-pundit/

Or in other words, utter hogwash.
I bet you would not believe your lying eyes when you read the e mails sent between the Doctor and his Foreign friends either .
The E mails are out there . It will be interesting to see how many lawsuits are generated by the release of the emails .

The Ivermectin debate on FLCCC alliance is just getting going as well . Imagine a cure being denied because those Government employees doing the approvals have financial conflicts of interests . Both in shares of the companies seeking approvals and those holding the Patents of the vaccines and the cures the approval agencies are promoting .
A person on the Government payroll should not be making millions off patents .That many of the Patents that were developed in Government funded Laboratories just makes the corruption more dishonourable.
It sounds crazy when you say it out loud because it is crazy , that the same people making the decisions are the same people making huge money of those corrupt decisions .
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Re: Are you vaccinated?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=deskt ... e=youtu.be

Peer reviewed and new info that has made it a clear NO jab for me thanks. Good luck to those ones who have already been jabbed.
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Re: Are you vaccinated?

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It's all about decision making, and we know how good pilots are at that.
99.8% survivable.

Experimental substance required?

Decisions...
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Re: Are you vaccinated?

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Seems to me that the evidence for HCQ is more than overwhelming

https://c19hcq.com/
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I struggle with why people are even considering a vaccine when treatment options exist that are proven to work. For the record HCQ is only one of many treatment options. Many better options exist if you do a little research.
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Re: Are you vaccinated?

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telex wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 11:50 am
It's all about decision making, and we know how good pilots are at that.
99.8% survivable.

Experimental substance required?

Decisions...
Well you might want to check your facts there. In Canada the current fatality rate is 1.8%. I guess some pilots are happy with a 1.8% chance of having a fatal crash on each flight too. Each to their own.
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Re: Are you vaccinated?

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Japan Pfizer study translated into English
https://files.catbox.moe/0vwcmj.pdf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=deskt ... e=youtu.be
The Spike Protein - Dr. Byram Bridle Professor of Viral Immunology University of Guelph

My good buddy down state side just lost his FAA medical at just under a month after his second jab. He was diagnosed with myocarditis.

https://news.yahoo.com/israel-sees-prob ... 42230.html
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Re: Are you vaccinated?

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Canadajim wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 12:00 pm Seems to me that the evidence for HCQ is more than overwhelming
More bullshit “facts”.

A network of websites that have cherry-picked and misrepresented research to promote hydroxychloroquine as a proven treatment for COVID-19, despite clinical trials finding that it is not effective.

Proceed with caution: This website severely violates basic journalistic standards.


https://www.inforweb.ch/covid-19/
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Re: Are you vaccinated?

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CpnCrunch wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 12:07 pm
telex wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 11:50 am
It's all about decision making, and we know how good pilots are at that.
99.8% survivable.

Experimental substance required?

Decisions...
Well you might want to check your facts there. In Canada the current fatality rate is 1.8%. I guess some pilots are happy with a 1.8% chance of having a fatal crash on each flight too. Each to their own.
When analyzing the chance of a fatal crash on an airline, do you look at similar airline crashes, or do you look at ultralight crashes as well?

The average pilot does not have a 1.8% chance of dying of covid, even if all pilots get covid. Exaggeration does not help to convince people to take a vaccine.
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Re: Are you vaccinated?

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digits_ wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 1:09 pm The average pilot does not have a 1.8% chance of dying of covid, even if all pilots get covid. Exaggeration does not help to convince people to take a vaccine.
Today's young fit pilots are, all - every single one of you - within a very predictable time frame, going to become old, obese pilots (or ex-pilots) with significant co-morbidities. It's just a matter of time.

I laugh at all those people who tell me COVID-19 isn't a threat to them. Today - sure.

At what age do *you* figure the vaccine suddenly becomes a worthwhile bet? Let's hear your reasoning.
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... boola_feed

Apparently , the emails are beginning to show that paleface is speaking with forked tongue again .
Pissing down our backs and telling us it is raining . Smug lying sociopath.

Maybe this will prompt an investigation into some of the criminal medical research done by the same group mentality of mad evil scientists that allowed the Tuskegee experiments to go on for decades under the guise of medical research.
They got away with torture and medical malpractice on an industrial scale before and will probably outsmart investigators again .

History is about to Rhyme again .
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Re: Are you vaccinated?

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At no age does this experimental synthetic product become needed, as numerous treatment options exist that prevent hospitalization and death.

A better question is why is treatment being blocked and fear being used to get a jab into every arm including our kids.

This “vaccine” does not prevent one from getting Covid or transmit Covid to others.

95% effective or less than 1% effective. Might want to watch this video to learn how the media is using 95% as a propaganda tool for a less than 1% benefit.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RG7n1ZbDTww
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Re: Are you vaccinated?

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Alright Mr. 3-posts, thanks for your contribution here.
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digits_ wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 1:09 pm
CpnCrunch wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 12:07 pm
telex wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 11:50 am

99.8% survivable.

Experimental substance required?

Decisions...
Well you might want to check your facts there. In Canada the current fatality rate is 1.8%. I guess some pilots are happy with a 1.8% chance of having a fatal crash on each flight too. Each to their own.
When analyzing the chance of a fatal crash on an airline, do you look at similar airline crashes, or do you look at ultralight crashes as well?

The average pilot does not have a 1.8% chance of dying of covid, even if all pilots get covid. Exaggeration does not help to convince people to take a vaccine.
That is no exaggeration. It is the average. Its trivial to look up the fatality rate for various age groups and health conditions. I was going to post them but realised it was a waste of time (see prev post :prayer: )
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Re: Are you vaccinated?

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A346Dude wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 2:49 pm I would take the vaccine if it was a conventional one.
The AZ vaccine *is* a conventional one.
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Re: Are you vaccinated?

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Even Fauci put in an email this will all end even without a vaccine.
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If you haven’t read this guys leaked emails take sometime and read them.
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