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Re: Happy Treason Day!

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47north wrote: Sun Jul 04, 2021 10:43 pm
altiplano wrote: Sun Jul 04, 2021 1:00 pm
47north wrote: Sun Jul 04, 2021 11:30 am

If it’s so bad here please leave
Canada isn't the problem, it's people like you. Do you think trashing on America makes you better, does that make you superior somehow?

And this:

"If you don't like it leave."
"If you think it's so bad quit."

Give me a break.

How about let's get it back to where it should be. Let's improve the nation instead of feeling sorry.
I suggest walking away from your keyboard and relaxing. Way too angry there pal.

I’m not trashing anything. Many fine people on both sides of the border and a few a**holes. Like on this forum for example.

I wouldn’t want to live there because I don’t like their guns laws, criminal justice system, health care, system of government, etc. To each their own but not my cup of tea.

I agree about improving this place. Not sure trashing your own country helps that.
I don't need to take shots at other countries to lift my own... that's what you did... trashing our greatest ally is a Canadian pastime and it's bullshit.
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montado wrote: Sun Jul 04, 2021 9:38 pm
notwhoyouthinkIam wrote: Sun Jul 04, 2021 8:40 pm And for the record, I am white and have voted CPC in every election since I turned 18.
This means if you live in Ontario you voted for the guy who blew 2.5 million dollars on a fake company to market a useless device to fight covid. :lol:

CPC is a Federal party, but yes, I do regret my Ford vote.
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notwhoyouthinkIam wrote: Sun Jul 04, 2021 4:30 pm
Canada is on the list of the top ten friendliest countries, topped by Portugal. The US doesn't make the list at all.
Doing a google search, on a top ten, will always give you different results. Its all very subjective to the author. As someone who lived in the US, I would rate the average american very high as friendly to a stranger. Most developing countries I find much higher than western countries. I would rank an average canadian about the same as someone from the UK. Very suspicious of strangers generally and quite the sullen lot. Once you head deep into la belle province things get downright hostile to a stranger.
notwhoyouthinkIam wrote: Sun Jul 04, 2021 4:30 pmhttps://worldpopulationreview.com/count ... -countries
most genuine
The nation that tells itself that it's the best country ever, while not providing the necessities for tens of millions of it's citizens. @#$!, the US doesn't even offer representation for many of the territories that it governs.
Again, all perspective. What's with all the homeless in canada? People begging everywhere. Why does the government need to provide the necessities? There is such a culture of handouts here, it is quite unbelievable. This pandemic has bought it out in force. Everyone sitting with their handout, asking what about me. Get of yer butt and go take care of yourself. America is one of the best countries in the world in providing that abilities
notwhoyouthinkIam wrote: Sun Jul 04, 2021 4:30 pm
most welcoming
Yeah, sure.
Absolutely, As a foreigner here, I have not felt welcomed at all. Lived in the states for a number of years (not american) very very welcoming. And don't sit there and tell me that I feel welcomed. I hardly know an expat here who feels welcomed by the canadians.
notwhoyouthinkIam wrote: Sun Jul 04, 2021 4:30 pm
most opportunity
You should read into socioeconomic mobility.

I'm too lazy to continue pointing out your poor choice of adjectives.
A thousand times more opportunity than here. You must experience to realise it.

I don't usually agree with altiplano. But he is spot on here. You should get out and travel around the states and meet the average person. They are wonderful people on the whole outside of the cities.
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eyebrow737 wrote: Mon Jul 05, 2021 6:09 am As a foreigner here, I have not felt welcomed at all. Lived in the states for a number of years (not american) very very welcoming. And don't sit there and tell me that I feel welcomed. I hardly know an expat here who feels welcomed by the canadians.
I can't speak for everyone, but speaking for myself, you are welcome in my country.
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eyebrow737 wrote: Mon Jul 05, 2021 6:09 am I don't usually agree with altiplano. But he is spot on here. You should get out and travel around the states and meet the average person. They are wonderful people on the whole outside of the cities.
I'm glad to see that you're coming around!

That's it though... we can disagree on things and still agree on others and have a good conversation about it all... that's getting lost I think and it turns to bashing and denigrating over bullshit and we end up in out tribes and cliques, surrounded by an echo chamber only telling us what we want to hear.

Anyway...
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Re: Happy Treason Day!

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altiplano wrote: Mon Jul 05, 2021 6:33 am
eyebrow737 wrote: Mon Jul 05, 2021 6:09 am I don't usually agree with altiplano. But he is spot on here. You should get out and travel around the states and meet the average person. They are wonderful people on the whole outside of the cities.
I'm glad to see that you're coming around!

That's it though... we can disagree on things and still agree on others and have a good conversation about it all... that's getting lost I think and it turns to bashing and denigrating over bullshit and we end up in out tribes and cliques, surrounded by an echo chamber only telling us what we want to hear.

Anyway...
Yes - totally agree. The internet is not the best conveyor of a healthy discussion. I have no doubt we would agree on 80% of things. It's funny how we live in a world where everyone focus's on the 20% they don't agree with.
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RedAndWhiteBaron wrote: Mon Jul 05, 2021 6:18 am
eyebrow737 wrote: Mon Jul 05, 2021 6:09 am As a foreigner here, I have not felt welcomed at all. Lived in the states for a number of years (not american) very very welcoming. And don't sit there and tell me that I feel welcomed. I hardly know an expat here who feels welcomed by the canadians.
I can't speak for everyone, but speaking for myself, you are welcome in my country.
Well - thank you. I don't take it personally. Every country has it's own personality. America are the extroverts and with some other countries it takes a bit longer to get know the people, but when you do, you are friends for life.
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Re: Happy Treason Day!

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altiplano wrote: Mon Jul 05, 2021 3:48 am
47north wrote: Sun Jul 04, 2021 10:43 pm
altiplano wrote: Sun Jul 04, 2021 1:00 pm

Canada isn't the problem, it's people like you. Do you think trashing on America makes you better, does that make you superior somehow?

And this:

"If you don't like it leave."
"If you think it's so bad quit."

Give me a break.

How about let's get it back to where it should be. Let's improve the nation instead of feeling sorry.
I suggest walking away from your keyboard and relaxing. Way too angry there pal.

I’m not trashing anything. Many fine people on both sides of the border and a few a**holes. Like on this forum for example.

I wouldn’t want to live there because I don’t like their guns laws, criminal justice system, health care, system of government, etc. To each their own but not my cup of tea.

I agree about improving this place. Not sure trashing your own country helps that.
I don't need to take shots at other countries to lift my own... that's what you did... trashing our greatest ally is a Canadian pastime and it's bullshit.
Go back a re-read this thread. No shots taken on my part. Take a break keyboard warrior.
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Re: Happy Treason Day!

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47north wrote: Mon Jul 05, 2021 7:02 am
altiplano wrote: Mon Jul 05, 2021 3:48 am
47north wrote: Sun Jul 04, 2021 10:43 pm

I suggest walking away from your keyboard and relaxing. Way too angry there pal.

I’m not trashing anything. Many fine people on both sides of the border and a few a**holes. Like on this forum for example.

I wouldn’t want to live there because I don’t like their guns laws, criminal justice system, health care, system of government, etc. To each their own but not my cup of tea.

I agree about improving this place. Not sure trashing your own country helps that.
I don't need to take shots at other countries to lift my own... that's what you did... trashing our greatest ally is a Canadian pastime and it's bullshit.
Go back a re-read this thread. No shots taken on my part. Take a break keyboard warrior.
"Couldn't pay me enough"

That's typically meant as a negative statement on something.

And I disagree and said so and why, do you have a problem with that? Do you think you post in a vacuum and not want replies or are you just wanting to hear from people that agree with you?
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https://apple.news/ABxtOK3dyQzihkar9H8BjqA

“At least 150 people fatally shot in more than 400 shootings over the Fourth of July weekend”
Americans take personal freedom to the extreme such as the “right” to carry concealed weapons. WTF
. I don’t care what the airlines are paying, I’m not that materialistic or arrogant to give a shit about making as much money as I possibly can. My kids are well educated, safe and healthy here in Canada and that’s all that matters to me.
Sure I’ll go visit in the winter because the climate in the southern states is better than ours and I might even take a summer trip down there because they’ve got some really cool geography like the Grand Canyon. But live there? Never. I often wonder if the U.S.A. and Canada were geographically switched would anyone actually visit the USA? Not likely. Climate and geography are the only draws they have in my books. But to each their own.
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altiplano wrote: Sun Jul 04, 2021 2:33 pm
Lt. Daniel Kaffee wrote: Sun Jul 04, 2021 1:12 pm What percentage of Jazz pilots were laid off?
What percentage of Air Transat pilots were laid off?
What percentage of Sunwing pilots were laid off?
What percentage of Porter pilots were laid off?
What percentage of Westjet pilots were laid off?
What percentage of Westjet Encore pilots were laid off?
Which one of those is a network legacy airline with 8 aircraft types and worldwide operations?

Which one of those didn't enroll their layoffs in CEWS?

Which one of those would you like to compare your contract to when it opens up?

None of the above... those aren't valid comparators.


I could hear the Mic hitting the floor from my house. Awesome.

Thought the Lt. would be out grabbing more overtime, not on this forum.

Typical ACPA MEC......always comparing us and our WACON to secondary, and third rate competitors. Guess you gotta justify what you do somehow.
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RippleRock wrote: Mon Jul 05, 2021 7:54 pm Typical ACPA MEC......always comparing us and our WACON to secondary, and third rate competitors. Guess you gotta justify what you do somehow.
secondary and third rate competitors? your arrogance is oozing. Air Canada is nothing but a government department. It doesn't compete.
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Handover wrote: Tue Jul 06, 2021 4:45 am
RippleRock wrote: Mon Jul 05, 2021 7:54 pm Typical ACPA MEC......always comparing us and our WACON to secondary, and third rate competitors. Guess you gotta justify what you do somehow.
secondary and third rate competitors? your arrogance is oozing. Air Canada is nothing but a government department. It doesn't compete.
Tell me you don’t understand aviation without telling me you don’t understand aviation.
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Re: Happy Treason Day!

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Hangry wrote: Tue Jul 06, 2021 5:01 am
Handover wrote: Tue Jul 06, 2021 4:45 am
RippleRock wrote: Mon Jul 05, 2021 7:54 pm Typical ACPA MEC......always comparing us and our WACON to secondary, and third rate competitors. Guess you gotta justify what you do somehow.
secondary and third rate competitors? your arrogance is oozing. Air Canada is nothing but a government department. It doesn't compete.
Tell me you don’t understand aviation without telling me you don’t understand aviation.
Ooh, I got this one.

People who think that liking an airline other than Air Canada makes you uninformed.
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hithere wrote: Mon Jul 05, 2021 5:30 pm https://apple.news/ABxtOK3dyQzihkar9H8BjqA

“At least 150 people fatally shot in more than 400 shootings over the Fourth of July weekend”
Americans take personal freedom to the extreme such as the “right” to carry concealed weapons. WTF


In accordance with the 2nd Amendment, it must have been “a well regulated militia” just doing it’s job.
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Hangry wrote: Tue Jul 06, 2021 5:01 am Tell me you don’t understand aviation without telling me you don’t understand aviation.
Tell me you are trying to make a point without making a point. Are you saying Transat, Sunwing, Westjet are second or third rate?
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Re: Happy Treason Day!

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Handover wrote: Tue Jul 06, 2021 9:28 am
Hangry wrote: Tue Jul 06, 2021 5:01 am Tell me you don’t understand aviation without telling me you don’t understand aviation.
40 years of worldwide aviation buster. Tell me you are trying to make a point without making a point. Are you saying Transat, Sunwing, Westjet are second or third rate?
Yes, that is exactly what they are saying.

I disagree with Hangry's opinion, but like @ssholes, everyone has one.
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notwhoyouthinkIam wrote: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:36 am Yes, that is exactly what they are saying.
Big fish in a small pond
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I agree that it's better not to put down another country to make you feel better about your own. That being said unless I could guarantee that I'd respawn rich, there's about ten other countries I'd rather be born in over the US. Canada used to be #1 on that list in my younger days but I figure I've got about five countries ahead of Maple land contrary to our rise to #1 on the US News list.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countr ... l_Rankings
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