3 BA pilots died following their 2nd jab this last week
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Re: 3 BA pilots died following their 2nd jab this last week
Not sure how mixing vaccines in your body can be a good idea when 60+ million J&J vials had to be tossed out because they were "contaminated" with an ingredient from the AstraZeneca vaccine being produced at the same facility.
Will fix airplanes for food.
Re: 3 BA pilots died following their 2nd jab this last week
So far: 4 in a week at BA
5 at Jet Blue
many at other airlines but are being quiet about it.
The following is a posting from a retired M.D. public post tracking the side effects. It's much worse than you can imagine. He should be thanked, because your practicing doctors and government are not informing you.
The chances are higher than acceptable to expect to loose your career and quality of life, at minimum
Covid Vaccine side effects.
Updated July 16, 2021
As with any medical treatment we always balance the benefits versus the risks. However, in order to do so wisely, we need to be well informed about the good the vaccines can do and their shortcomings. That is the purpose of this post. Please have a discussion with your health care provider to make an informed decision; and read the comments section where I have links to medical articles along with case reports.
A Covid infection can be serious and fatal. Cases nationwide and globally are rising again. Please maintain proper precautions whether vaccinated or not. In some people a vaccine reaction has its own set of complications.
For a more detailed list — and an explanation of the 5 mechanisms how and why side effects happen — see the link to my personal website from my FB home page or visit RaySahelian com. I also explain the role of spike proteins and how these vaccines work. You will not find such a comprehensive list anywhere else.
Many who get the shots are having only minor side effects such as arm pain, light flu-like symptoms, and some have none. I have reviewed thousands of case reports on government websites, reviewed the Pfizer, Moderna, J&J and AstraZeneca side effect reports, read countless news articles and published medical articles, and also followed several online groups where people mention their reactions to the vaccine. This is my preliminary assessment.
Allergic and anaphylactic reactions starting within minutes and up to an hour or two: Flushing, dizziness, fainting, shortness of breath, changes in blood pressure, palpitations, increased heart rate, throat swelling, lip and tongue swelling... occasionally leading to ER visits and hospitalizations.
Common side effects often starting the evening of, or middle of the night:
Pain, redness, and swelling at the injection site, fever, sweats, chills, headache (sometimes very severe and migraine-like), fatigue, body aches, muscle aches, dizziness, and malaise. These can last from a few hours to a week or two, and sometimes longer, especially fatigue. Perhaps drinking a lot of water could reduce these symptoms. It is best to avoid heavy exertion for a few days.
Less common:
Musculoskeletal: Joint pains, joint swelling, shoulder pain, neck pain, jaw pain, pain in the mouth or teeth, pain in the extremities, back pain, hip pain, knee pain, muscle fatigue, weakness in muscles, bone pain.
Dermatological: Skin rash, hives, itchiness. Sometimes a big rash and swelling develops at the injection site a few days later. Swelling of face, hands, and feet.
Gastrointestinal: Nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, stomach or abdominal cramps, loss of appetite.
Oral: Mouth sores, lip sores, metallic taste in the mouth or taste alterations, bumps or ulcers on the tongue.
Lymphatic: Swelling of lymph nodes; often in the armpit of the injected arm, but sometimes above or below the clavicle, neck, or behind the ears. Some even report groin nodes swelling up. Lymph nodes located in the abdomen may enlarge, also.
Neurological: A wide variety of nerve issues are occurring that make a diagnosis difficult and have ER doctors baffled. Dizziness, vertigo, tinnitus (ringing in the ears), tics, tremors, seizures, sleepiness, insomnia, paresthesias, tingling in the arms, legs and feet, burning in feet, tingling in the face, Bell’s palsy, paralysis, strange sensations, pins and needles throughout the body, weakness in legs, loss of balance, falling. FDA has recognized Guillain-Barré syndrome as a risk.
Mental, psychiatric, behavioral changes: Mood changes, anxiety, anhedonia, depression, aggressiveness, brain fog, confusion, disorientation.
Eyes: Blurred vision, double vision, redness in eyes, swelling of eyes, eye pain, sensitivity to light, blindness (rare).
Ears: Decreased hearing, hearing loss (rare), ear pain, redness in ears, ringing in ears (common, sometimes lasting weeks).
Cardiovascular: Tachycardia (rapid heart rate) is quite common, heart rhythm disturbances, palpitations, lightheadedness, falling, fainting, high blood pressure, low blood pressure, chest pain, blood clots, stroke, heart attack, deep vein thrombosis, pulmonary embolism; even blood clots in arteries and veins in the abdomen. Myocarditis cases have been confirmed by the FDA.
Respiratory: Shortness of breath, tightness in chest, cough, chest pain. Blood clots in the lungs have occurred.
Gynecological: Menstrual irregularities, heavy bleeding, spotting, missed periods, uterine bleeding even after menopause.
Hematological: Bruising, bleeding from nose or other cavities. A combination of clotting and low platelet count has been noted.
Delayed reactions are occurring sometimes starting a week or two later: Skin rashes and hives, changes in heart rate and rhythm, changes in blood pressure, joint pains, muscle weakness, fatigue, and a variety of neurological symptoms. Sadly some individuals are having continuous health issues for more than four or five months after the shots. A few have mentioned a recurrence of shingles.
I am starting to get concerned that certain individuals may become prone to having future autoimmune conditions, especially with booster shots. I still need time to figure this out.
Nursing home caretakers have mentioned that a few of the residents became confused and less able to take care of themselves, and started deteriorating faster.
Deaths
More than 11,000 deaths have been reported to the CDC, most of them occurring within a few days after the vaccine, some within minutes or hours.
Hundreds of thousands have called or visited their doctor, gone to emergency rooms, or have been admitted to a hospital.
These vaccines have not been thoroughly tested in:
Those over the age of 85. Seniors do not mount much of an immune response after vaccines. Do we really know whether giving a shot helps them or hurts them? Have we analyzed the benefit to risk ratio?
Those younger than age 16.
Those with prior Covid infection.
Unstable medical conditions.
Unstable psychiatric conditions.
Autoimmune conditions. Could there be flare-ups?
Those who are immune suppressed. Do the Vs induce enough of an antibody response?
Various cancers including lymphoma and leukemia. The immune system of many cancer patients, especially those undergoing chemotherapy, is compromised and may not form adequate antibody levels. Is it worth taking the risk of giving the shots with potentially minimal and temporary benefit?
Seizure disorders. Could seizures get worse?
Serious neurological disorders.
Hepatitis B or C, or HIV.
Pregnancy. We do not know the outcome in babies after birth if the mother has been vaccinated during pregnancy.
Nursing. Do spike proteins pass through breast milk?
And many other medical conditions or in individuals taking multiple medications.
Again, please maintain adequate precautions, whether vaccinated or not. Having a serious reaction to an infection is no joke.
Ray Sahelian, M.D.
5 at Jet Blue
many at other airlines but are being quiet about it.
The following is a posting from a retired M.D. public post tracking the side effects. It's much worse than you can imagine. He should be thanked, because your practicing doctors and government are not informing you.
The chances are higher than acceptable to expect to loose your career and quality of life, at minimum
Covid Vaccine side effects.
Updated July 16, 2021
As with any medical treatment we always balance the benefits versus the risks. However, in order to do so wisely, we need to be well informed about the good the vaccines can do and their shortcomings. That is the purpose of this post. Please have a discussion with your health care provider to make an informed decision; and read the comments section where I have links to medical articles along with case reports.
A Covid infection can be serious and fatal. Cases nationwide and globally are rising again. Please maintain proper precautions whether vaccinated or not. In some people a vaccine reaction has its own set of complications.
For a more detailed list — and an explanation of the 5 mechanisms how and why side effects happen — see the link to my personal website from my FB home page or visit RaySahelian com. I also explain the role of spike proteins and how these vaccines work. You will not find such a comprehensive list anywhere else.
Many who get the shots are having only minor side effects such as arm pain, light flu-like symptoms, and some have none. I have reviewed thousands of case reports on government websites, reviewed the Pfizer, Moderna, J&J and AstraZeneca side effect reports, read countless news articles and published medical articles, and also followed several online groups where people mention their reactions to the vaccine. This is my preliminary assessment.
Allergic and anaphylactic reactions starting within minutes and up to an hour or two: Flushing, dizziness, fainting, shortness of breath, changes in blood pressure, palpitations, increased heart rate, throat swelling, lip and tongue swelling... occasionally leading to ER visits and hospitalizations.
Common side effects often starting the evening of, or middle of the night:
Pain, redness, and swelling at the injection site, fever, sweats, chills, headache (sometimes very severe and migraine-like), fatigue, body aches, muscle aches, dizziness, and malaise. These can last from a few hours to a week or two, and sometimes longer, especially fatigue. Perhaps drinking a lot of water could reduce these symptoms. It is best to avoid heavy exertion for a few days.
Less common:
Musculoskeletal: Joint pains, joint swelling, shoulder pain, neck pain, jaw pain, pain in the mouth or teeth, pain in the extremities, back pain, hip pain, knee pain, muscle fatigue, weakness in muscles, bone pain.
Dermatological: Skin rash, hives, itchiness. Sometimes a big rash and swelling develops at the injection site a few days later. Swelling of face, hands, and feet.
Gastrointestinal: Nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, stomach or abdominal cramps, loss of appetite.
Oral: Mouth sores, lip sores, metallic taste in the mouth or taste alterations, bumps or ulcers on the tongue.
Lymphatic: Swelling of lymph nodes; often in the armpit of the injected arm, but sometimes above or below the clavicle, neck, or behind the ears. Some even report groin nodes swelling up. Lymph nodes located in the abdomen may enlarge, also.
Neurological: A wide variety of nerve issues are occurring that make a diagnosis difficult and have ER doctors baffled. Dizziness, vertigo, tinnitus (ringing in the ears), tics, tremors, seizures, sleepiness, insomnia, paresthesias, tingling in the arms, legs and feet, burning in feet, tingling in the face, Bell’s palsy, paralysis, strange sensations, pins and needles throughout the body, weakness in legs, loss of balance, falling. FDA has recognized Guillain-Barré syndrome as a risk.
Mental, psychiatric, behavioral changes: Mood changes, anxiety, anhedonia, depression, aggressiveness, brain fog, confusion, disorientation.
Eyes: Blurred vision, double vision, redness in eyes, swelling of eyes, eye pain, sensitivity to light, blindness (rare).
Ears: Decreased hearing, hearing loss (rare), ear pain, redness in ears, ringing in ears (common, sometimes lasting weeks).
Cardiovascular: Tachycardia (rapid heart rate) is quite common, heart rhythm disturbances, palpitations, lightheadedness, falling, fainting, high blood pressure, low blood pressure, chest pain, blood clots, stroke, heart attack, deep vein thrombosis, pulmonary embolism; even blood clots in arteries and veins in the abdomen. Myocarditis cases have been confirmed by the FDA.
Respiratory: Shortness of breath, tightness in chest, cough, chest pain. Blood clots in the lungs have occurred.
Gynecological: Menstrual irregularities, heavy bleeding, spotting, missed periods, uterine bleeding even after menopause.
Hematological: Bruising, bleeding from nose or other cavities. A combination of clotting and low platelet count has been noted.
Delayed reactions are occurring sometimes starting a week or two later: Skin rashes and hives, changes in heart rate and rhythm, changes in blood pressure, joint pains, muscle weakness, fatigue, and a variety of neurological symptoms. Sadly some individuals are having continuous health issues for more than four or five months after the shots. A few have mentioned a recurrence of shingles.
I am starting to get concerned that certain individuals may become prone to having future autoimmune conditions, especially with booster shots. I still need time to figure this out.
Nursing home caretakers have mentioned that a few of the residents became confused and less able to take care of themselves, and started deteriorating faster.
Deaths
More than 11,000 deaths have been reported to the CDC, most of them occurring within a few days after the vaccine, some within minutes or hours.
Hundreds of thousands have called or visited their doctor, gone to emergency rooms, or have been admitted to a hospital.
These vaccines have not been thoroughly tested in:
Those over the age of 85. Seniors do not mount much of an immune response after vaccines. Do we really know whether giving a shot helps them or hurts them? Have we analyzed the benefit to risk ratio?
Those younger than age 16.
Those with prior Covid infection.
Unstable medical conditions.
Unstable psychiatric conditions.
Autoimmune conditions. Could there be flare-ups?
Those who are immune suppressed. Do the Vs induce enough of an antibody response?
Various cancers including lymphoma and leukemia. The immune system of many cancer patients, especially those undergoing chemotherapy, is compromised and may not form adequate antibody levels. Is it worth taking the risk of giving the shots with potentially minimal and temporary benefit?
Seizure disorders. Could seizures get worse?
Serious neurological disorders.
Hepatitis B or C, or HIV.
Pregnancy. We do not know the outcome in babies after birth if the mother has been vaccinated during pregnancy.
Nursing. Do spike proteins pass through breast milk?
And many other medical conditions or in individuals taking multiple medications.
Again, please maintain adequate precautions, whether vaccinated or not. Having a serious reaction to an infection is no joke.
Ray Sahelian, M.D.
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Re: 3 BA pilots died following their 2nd jab this last week
- Pandemic is over.
- They're testing asymptomatic people to inflate numbers because if pandemic is declared over then emergency approval for vaccines would be revoked. (which are almost obsolete anyway)
Next crisis....
- They're testing asymptomatic people to inflate numbers because if pandemic is declared over then emergency approval for vaccines would be revoked. (which are almost obsolete anyway)
Next crisis....
Re: 3 BA pilots died following their 2nd jab this last week
Ok we’ll reconvene in the fall when the supercharged runaway immune systems kick upon reacting to the next flu virus
Re: 3 BA pilots died following their 2nd jab this last week
More misinformation spread by quoting quacks. Your record is intact at 100% bullshitJerryRig wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 8:50 pm
For a more detailed list — and an explanation of the 5 mechanisms how and why side effects happen — see the link to my personal website from my FB home page or visit RaySahelian com. I also explain the role of spike proteins and how these vaccines work. You will not find such a comprehensive list anywhere else.
Re: 3 BA pilots died following their 2nd jab this last week
Aviatard (Covitard?), why don’t you tell this to the face of the 100,000’s of those who’s lives have been changed forever by this poison. How insensitive can you get? I’ve seen their stories, pictures, videos. It’s very disturbing. Brave people to come forward and admit they made a mistake.Aviatard wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 3:37 amMore misinformation spread by quoting quacks. Your record is intact at 100% bullshitJerryRig wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 8:50 pm
For a more detailed list — and an explanation of the 5 mechanisms how and why side effects happen — see the link to my personal website from my FB home page or visit RaySahelian com. I also explain the role of spike proteins and how these vaccines work. You will not find such a comprehensive list anywhere else.
Re: 3 BA pilots died following their 2nd jab this last week
JerryRig wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 9:16 amAviatard (Covitard?), why don’t you tell this to the face of the 100,000’s of those who’s lives have been changed forever by this poison. How insensitive can you get? I’ve seen their stories, pictures, videos. It’s very disturbing. Brave people to come forward and admit they made a mistake.Aviatard wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 3:37 amMore misinformation spread by quoting quacks. Your record is intact at 100% bullshitJerryRig wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 8:50 pm
For a more detailed list — and an explanation of the 5 mechanisms how and why side effects happen — see the link to my personal website from my FB home page or visit RaySahelian com. I also explain the role of spike proteins and how these vaccines work. You will not find such a comprehensive list anywhere else.
I personally know about 7 people who had covid, and of them a couple were hospitalized for some amount of time when they had it. One of them died with it (had pre existing conditions and was in poor health to begin with)
I personally know about 50 people who have taken one of the vaccine brands and of them no one has more than a sore arm or cold like symptoms.
I don’t have all the information, but anecdotally I’m going to go on a whim that I would take my chance with getting a vaccine before I’d take my chance with covid. What makes this interesting though is taking a vaccine is a choice and getting covid is usually not. As more people get vaccinated the risk of covid drops and eventually it makes the “risk of the vaccine” increase compared to the chance of getting covid.
I don’t see the point in creating this argument of how hundreds of people died from a vaccine, while millions have died with covid. Of course things are not clean cut, information comes through a fire hose. But it’s ridiculous to think the vaccine is worse than covid. And if you don’t want the vaccine, don’t take it, I take no offence to your choice.
Re: 3 BA pilots died following their 2nd jab this last week
More intel. The bigger question is brought up near the end of the report.
https://www.redvoicemedia.com/2021/07/h ... vaxx-fears
https://www.redvoicemedia.com/2021/07/h ... vaxx-fears
Re: 3 BA pilots died following their 2nd jab this last week
Looks totally legitimate… I think you have changed everyone’s minds here with your conspiracy source.JerryRig wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:32 am More intel. The bigger question is brought up near the end of the report.
https://www.redvoicemedia.com/2021/07/h ... vaxx-fears
Can you please link me to that source you had for the expert in vaccine extraction who can take my moderna doses out and potentially save me from harmful side effects/ potential death? I changed my mind and don’t want to be vaccinated anymore
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Overall, we rate Red Voice Media Right Biased and Questionable based on the promotion of propaganda, conspiracy theories, and the use of poor sources.JerryRig wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:32 am More intel. The bigger question is brought up near the end of the report.
https://www.redvoicemedia.com/2021/07/h ... vaxx-fears
Detailed Report
Questionable Reasoning: Poor Sourcing, Conspiracy Theories, Propaganda, Failed Fact Check
Bias Rating: FAR RIGHT
Factual Reporting: LOW
Country: USA (44/180 Press Freedom)
Media Type: Website
Traffic/Popularity: Medium Traffic
MBFC Credibility Rating: LOW CREDIBILITY
https://www.google.com/amp/s/mediabiasf ... a/%3famp=1
And more on this absolute gem of a source:
Fact Check: COVID-19 Vaccines Do NOT Contain 99% Graphene Oxide To Conduct 'Mass Poisoning'
https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2021 ... oning.html
Keep shoveling the bullshit.
Re: 3 BA pilots died following their 2nd jab this last week
Seems like most of the replies are from those who only watch the TV, because TV never lies. 
I’m telling all of you the adverse reactions and deaths are higher than the last 30 years of vaxes combined, as per VAERS and it’s international equivalents. Canada is screen out entries in theirs courtesy of their thought police....the same that are pushing bill 10 and 36
You are being lied to by exclusion so the only choice for the intelligent is to dig for the truth on our own. Academics are blindly following their foreign funded colleges and TV, but the street smart are not so easily fooled.
The inventor of the mRNA vaccine has a concern. He got it wrong.
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/worr ... surge-most
I’m telling all of you the adverse reactions and deaths are higher than the last 30 years of vaxes combined, as per VAERS and it’s international equivalents. Canada is screen out entries in theirs courtesy of their thought police....the same that are pushing bill 10 and 36
You are being lied to by exclusion so the only choice for the intelligent is to dig for the truth on our own. Academics are blindly following their foreign funded colleges and TV, but the street smart are not so easily fooled.
The inventor of the mRNA vaccine has a concern. He got it wrong.
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/worr ... surge-most
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Re: 3 BA pilots died following their 2nd jab this last week
So it's a conspiracy1JerryRig wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:06 pm Seems like most of the replies are from those who only watch the TV, because TV never lies.
I’m telling all of you the adverse reactions and deaths are higher than the last 30 years of vaxes combined, as per VAERS and it’s international equivalents. Canada is screen out entries in theirs courtesy of their thought police....the same that are pushing bill 10 and 36
You are being lied to by exclusion so the only choice for the intelligent is to dig for the truth on our own. Academics are blindly following their foreign funded colleges and TV, but the street smart are not so easily fooled.
The inventor of the mRNA vaccine has a concern. He got it wrong.
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/worr ... surge-most
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Re: 3 BA pilots died following their 2nd jab this last week
Fact. It’s not a theory.
con•spir•a•cy kən-spîr′ə-sē►
n. An agreement to perform together an illegal, wrongful, or subversive act.
n. A group of conspirators.
n. An agreement between two or more persons to commit a crime or accomplish a legal purpose through illegal action.
Re: 3 BA pilots died following their 2nd jab this last week
Your brain call it a fact. Mine call it a cons-piracy.
I see your good intentions though “Saving the word from something bad” But there to, you got what is bad totally wrong.
And on so many level that I don’t know where to begin with.
Re: 3 BA pilots died following their 2nd jab this last week
Did you actually READ the definition of conspiracy above?
Re: 3 BA pilots died following their 2nd jab this last week
Certainly redvoicemedia has no political bias what-so-ever.JerryRig wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:32 am More intel. The bigger question is brought up near the end of the report.
https://www.redvoicemedia.com/2021/07/h ... vaxx-fears
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WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE!rxl wrote: ↑Mon Jul 19, 2021 6:12 amCertainly redvoicemedia has no political bias what-so-ever.JerryRig wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:32 am More intel. The bigger question is brought up near the end of the report.
https://www.redvoicemedia.com/2021/07/h ... vaxx-fears
People are getting sick and dying from this jab and you want to make it a political bias issue??? They are trying to speak out and you snuff them out with your political pillow??
You’ve better look deep in your soul and get on the right side of history, and fast!
https://thehighwire.com/videos/in-remem ... id-vaccine
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Ah I was correct, a religious thinker. I think most people here are on the side of science.JerryRig wrote: ↑Mon Jul 19, 2021 12:13 pmWHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE!rxl wrote: ↑Mon Jul 19, 2021 6:12 amCertainly redvoicemedia has no political bias what-so-ever.JerryRig wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:32 am More intel. The bigger question is brought up near the end of the report.
https://www.redvoicemedia.com/2021/07/h ... vaxx-fears
People are getting sick and dying from this jab and you want to make it a political bias issue??? They are trying to speak out and you snuff them out with your political pillow??
You’ve better look deep in your soul and get on the right side of history, and fast!
https://thehighwire.com/videos/in-remem ... id-vaccine
I by no means believe the vaccines are perfect. I’m not even 100 percent sure how effective they will be and I’m also not 100 percent sure of the side effects. So far no science suggests they are really any more dangerous than other vaccines people may take, and so far they have proven to have some level of efficacy. If you are not interested, don’t take it. I support you! However I won’t be looking into m soul, I will be looking at the science.
Re: 3 BA pilots died following their 2nd jab this last week
More bullshit from quack sources. You are certainly consistent but nothing you post is believable.JerryRig wrote: ↑Mon Jul 19, 2021 12:13 pm
WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE!
People are getting sick and dying from this jab and you want to make it a political bias issue??? They are trying to speak out and you snuff them out with your political pillow??
You’ve better look deep in your soul and get on the right side of history, and fast!
https://thehighwire.com/videos/in-remem ... id-vaccine
Re: 3 BA pilots died following their 2nd jab this last week
Funny that’s what I say to myself whenever you or your flock post your BS on here.JerryRig wrote: ↑Mon Jul 19, 2021 12:13 pmWHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE!rxl wrote: ↑Mon Jul 19, 2021 6:12 amCertainly redvoicemedia has no political bias what-so-ever.JerryRig wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:32 am More intel. The bigger question is brought up near the end of the report.
https://www.redvoicemedia.com/2021/07/h ... vaxx-fears
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Let me know when you find some. Science is a test of theories against actual unfiltered data.
Right now there is no debate from the medical colleges, only mandates to unify a single narrative under threat of loosing credibility if doctors stray.
THATS not science. That’s coercion. Coercion is illegal under The Nuremberg Code.
https://www.anhinternational.org/news/t ... of-dissent
JR
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Science/Facts from the SAGE (scientific advisory group of emergency) - UK Gov.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicat ... -july-2021
see point 9
« The combination of high prevalence and high levels of vaccination creates the conditions in which an immune escape variant is most likely to emerge. The likelihood of this happening is unknown, but such a variant would present a significant risk both in the UK and internationally.»
Some virologists stated that we should never vaccinate during a pandemic for that exact reason.
Should we lockdown the vaccinated? It looks like it’s gonna be a never ending game…
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicat ... -july-2021
see point 9
« The combination of high prevalence and high levels of vaccination creates the conditions in which an immune escape variant is most likely to emerge. The likelihood of this happening is unknown, but such a variant would present a significant risk both in the UK and internationally.»
Some virologists stated that we should never vaccinate during a pandemic for that exact reason.
Should we lockdown the vaccinated? It looks like it’s gonna be a never ending game…
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In other words, those who are most at risk should get vaccinated, but we have no reason to vaccinate all children under 12?
How will Pfizer make cha Ching if they only give shots to those 60 plus?
Oh and the whole point 9 was
9. There are four major risks associated with high numbers of infections. These are an increase in hospitalisations and deaths, more ‘Long-COVID’; workforce absences (including in the NHS); and the increased risk of new variants emerging. The combination of high prevalence and high levels of vaccination creates the conditions in which an immune escape variant is most likely to emerge. The likelihood of this happening is unknown, but such a variant would present a significant risk both in the UK and internationally.
I don’t think it says vaccines are bad, it just said there’s consequences no matter what choices we make. It makes sense that with vaccines, if the virus wants to survive it will need to mutate into something that can breakthrough the vaccine. All the variants that are less resilient will die off.
How will Pfizer make cha Ching if they only give shots to those 60 plus?
Oh and the whole point 9 was
9. There are four major risks associated with high numbers of infections. These are an increase in hospitalisations and deaths, more ‘Long-COVID’; workforce absences (including in the NHS); and the increased risk of new variants emerging. The combination of high prevalence and high levels of vaccination creates the conditions in which an immune escape variant is most likely to emerge. The likelihood of this happening is unknown, but such a variant would present a significant risk both in the UK and internationally.
I don’t think it says vaccines are bad, it just said there’s consequences no matter what choices we make. It makes sense that with vaccines, if the virus wants to survive it will need to mutate into something that can breakthrough the vaccine. All the variants that are less resilient will die off.
Re: 3 BA pilots died following their 2nd jab this last week
before you get too romantic about it, I shouldn’t need to point out to you that viruses are not intelligent, and don’t have wants and needs. So no, that doesn’t make any sense at all.
DId you hear the one about the jurisprudence fetishist? He got off on a technicality.
