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Funny thing about that ^ I'd stake a fair amount that the people whining about that expenditure wouldn't be doing so if their party of choice had come out on top..
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Edited for..ahem..CLARITY!
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Raincoast wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:34 am Funny thing about that ^ I'd stake a fair amount that the people whining about that expenditure wouldn't be doing so if their party of choice had come out on top..
Funny thing about that ^....Clearly the party of choice didn't come up on top, in fact the Tories(CPC) won 34.1% of the total number of votes cast, which amounts to 35.8% of the total number of seats.The Libtards finished with just 31.8% of the total number of votes, unfortunately due to a terribly flawed election system, they took 46.2% of the total seats! :rolleyes:
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I was happy to see the “Our Brothers the Taliban” lady get booted.
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Too bad "Our Brothers" the communist is still our PM!
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EPR wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:50 pm
Raincoast wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:34 am Funny thing about that ^ I'd stake a fair amount that the people whining about that expenditure wouldn't be doing so if their party of choice had come out on top..
Funny thing about that ^....Clearly the party of choice didn't come up on top, in fact the Tories(CPC) won 34.1% of the total number of votes cast, which amounts to 35.8% of the total number of seats.The Libtards finished with just 31.8% of the total number of votes, unfortunately due to a terribly flawed election system, they took 46.2% of the total seats! :rolleyes:
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I've always found this quite interesting. My experience has been that most people bitching that the Conservatives should be ruling since they earned the popular vote. Quickly turn around and claim Trump's 2016 victory was fair and that Hilary's popular vote win doesn't mean anything. Seems they only care about the popular vote when it suits them, who would have thought. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

And before you start calling me a "libtard" or "communist". It has been a long time since I voted for anything other than Conservative. I just don't through a hissy fit like a spoiled brat, when we lose.
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Actually no, not all conservative Canadians are Trump supporters.

Most conservative Canadians would be Democrats in the USA.

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Tbayer2021 wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 10:33 am
EPR wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:50 pm
Raincoast wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:34 am Funny thing about that ^ I'd stake a fair amount that the people whining about that expenditure wouldn't be doing so if their party of choice had come out on top..
Funny thing about that ^....Clearly the party of choice didn't come up on top, in fact the Tories(CPC) won 34.1% of the total number of votes cast, which amounts to 35.8% of the total number of seats.The Libtards finished with just 31.8% of the total number of votes, unfortunately due to a terribly flawed election system, they took 46.2% of the total seats! :rolleyes:
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I've always found this quite interesting. My experience has been that most people bitching that the Conservatives should be ruling since they earned the popular vote. Quickly turn around and claim Trump's 2016 victory was fair and that Hilary's popular vote win doesn't mean anything. Seems they only care about the popular vote when it suits them, who would have thought. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

And before you start calling me a "libtard" or "communist". It has been a long time since I voted for anything other than Conservative. I just don't through a hissy fit like a spoiled brat, when we lose.
^ throw...not through, and Crooked Hillary didn't win shit!
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I came to learn about the pilot shortage these days and all I got was election bitterness... thanks avcanada, never a disappointment.
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C-GGGQ wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 3:05 pm Except business jet flying is skyrocketing. They just aren’t flying airlines. 704 operators turning down charters they’re so busy. Don’t listen to the doomsday predictions on this site. It’s already rebounding 2022 is going to be busy
Is that still the case?
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schnitzel2k3 wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 3:31 pm
C-GGGQ wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 3:05 pm Except business jet flying is skyrocketing. They just aren’t flying airlines. 704 operators turning down charters they’re so busy. Don’t listen to the doomsday predictions on this site. It’s already rebounding 2022 is going to be busy
I'd have to agree, our rates are up 30% on pre COVID pricing and we're unable to fill the demand...

That’s really good, is that through actual business flying or a management company business market?
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Our charter department on turbo props and jets are booked solid over 3 months in advance at this point. We have nothing left
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Bug_Stomper_01 wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 5:42 pm
schnitzel2k3 wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 3:31 pm
C-GGGQ wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 3:05 pm Except business jet flying is skyrocketing. They just aren’t flying airlines. 704 operators turning down charters they’re so busy. Don’t listen to the doomsday predictions on this site. It’s already rebounding 2022 is going to be busy
I'd have to agree, our rates are up 30% on pre COVID pricing and we're unable to fill the demand...

That’s really good, is that through actual business flying or a management company business market?
Management company flying - mix of 604/704.
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Well That went off the rails and back. Wtf, anyways so what I’m getting from this thread is business travel is way up?
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Guys, the stock market is about to implode, along with the real estate market. We are on the verge of hyper inflation. In two years no one is going be able to afford to fly. There will be no shortage. We are all toast.
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tsgarp wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 4:39 pm Guys, the stock market is about to implode, along with the real estate market. We are on the verge of hyper inflation. In two years no one is going be able to afford to fly. There will be no shortage. We are all toast.
OMG :shock: what should we do???
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tsgarp wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 4:39 pm Guys, the stock market is about to implode, along with the real estate market. We are on the verge of hyper inflation. In two years no one is going be able to afford to fly. There will be no shortage. We are all toast.
Yeah my financial planner is moving my investments to lower risk on Monday. He’s been right in the past and says bad times are coming. I don’t care about real estate as much as I have paid my house off but I can’t imagine having a mortgage and owing more than your house is now worth. I don’t see aviation going to pre WuFlu levels anytime soon. The travel restrictions and inflation aren’t helping our industry at all.
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I wonder what loads are looking like this winter for leisure travel. I have a few friends who were booked but are canceling their plans because the Rona policy just makes it a little to difficult to want to travel.

I think people want to travel, but they aren’t going to bend over backwards to make a trip happen.
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Inverted2 wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 6:15 pm
Yeah my financial planner is moving my investments to lower risk on Monday.
Curious how that is defined.
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tsgarp wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 4:39 pm Guys, the stock market is about to implode, along with the real estate market. We are on the verge of hyper inflation. In two years no one is going be able to afford to fly. There will be no shortage. We are all toast.
As heard from your YouTube investment guru?
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montado wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 6:24 pm I wonder what loads are looking like this winter for leisure travel. I have a few friends who were booked but are canceling their plans because the Rona policy just makes it a little to difficult to want to travel.

I think people want to travel, but they aren’t going to bend over backwards to make a trip happen.
Test positive before you leave somewhere, and you’re stuck for 14 days. Now you’re on the hook for accommodations and food. That would make for an expensive trip. No thanks!
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Blueontop wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 6:10 pm
tsgarp wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 4:39 pm Guys, the stock market is about to implode, along with the real estate market. We are on the verge of hyper inflation. In two years no one is going be able to afford to fly. There will be no shortage. We are all toast.
OMG :shock: what should we do???
I thought that was obvious… stick your head between your legs and kiss your ass good bye.
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Clearprop913 wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 1:38 pm I am very curious to hear everyone's different thoughts on how fast the Pilot shortage will become an issue again. After coming up on over 18mths of a pilot surplus.

How long roughly until the famine becomes a feast again?

Do you think it will become such an issue smaller operators are forced to close doors?
I think the start of the shortage will happen again if a large group of pilots get canned over the vax mandate.
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Invertago wrote: Sat Oct 02, 2021 8:40 am I think the start of the shortage will happen again if a large group of pilots get canned over the vax mandate.
Has there ever been a time when a Canadian airline had more openings than applications ?
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Haha come on now. Seriously stop being so negative. This hyper inflation isn't going to happen. People will start travelling again as soon as they can. By spring 2022 airlines will be hiring like crazy again.
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