407 Landing

[JasonE]

https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/plane-makes- ... -1.5640564

[JasonE]

2:37 in the video you can see another plane fly low under the news chopper.

[Lost in Saigon]

C-GNBP 1974 Piper PA-28-151 Serial: 287515199

http://flycfc.ca/

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[JDW]

Why did they duct tape over the reg so quick?

[JasonE]

Add duct tape to your survival kit boys.....Lol

[Inverted2]

Good thing the 407 is so expensive that most peasants can’t afford it. Try doing that on any other road in the GTA!

[Lost in Saigon]

Why did they duct tape over the reg so quick?

That may be just photoshopped.

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[Inverted2]

I assume that was a flight school plane? The first thing they do is usually paint over company logos. Remember the Air Canada crash in Fredericton? The first thing they did was take a couple gallons of white paint and a roller out and paint the tail.

[gotak]

Why did they duct tape over the reg so quick?

That may be just photoshopped.


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No it's duct taped see the new video.

They have a interview now on CTV with one of the crew.
https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/pilot-who-la ... -1.5640564

Maintenance induced failure? Carb ice? Water in fuel? The possible list is endless.

[cncpc]

Duct tape aside, good job the pilot.

[172_Captain]

Well, that’s an incident. He’s basically barred from any job that asks if you’ve ever had an incident or an accident. /s

[alkaseltzer]

Well, that’s an incident. He’s basically barred from any job that asks if you’ve ever had an incident or an accident. /s

Is the TSB/TC gonna investigate? Or too small for them?

[702pipeliner]

Well, that’s an incident. He’s basically barred from any job that asks if you’ve ever had an incident or an accident. /s

Lol kinda narrow sighted. Depends on the fault. Was he at fault because he didn't take the necessary precautions or was it a problematic aircraft.

Only becomes a problem when TSB deems you to be the ultimate factor that lead to the incident occurring.

[photofly]

Well, that’s an incident.

No, not according to the TSB it isn’t, and who else’s definition are you going to use?

An aviation incident is an occurrence resulting directly from the operation of an aircraft having a maximum certificated take-off weight greater than 2250 kg or of an aircraft being operated under an air operator certificate issued under Part VII of the Canadian Aviation Regulations in which…

[Stephen Szikora]

Note that the story (and police interview) reports there was no damage. No way! If you watch the video closely, you can see that the left wing hit the median when it went over it. The aircraft yawed to the right as the wing slid on cement wall.

FYI - operated by the Caribbean Flying Club out of Grimsby. Never heard of them. Apparently a new operation and I guess they are concerned about their reputation (thus the duct tape.)

[alkaseltzer]

Note that the story (and police interview) reports there was no damage. No way! If you watch the video closely, you can see that the left wing hit the median when it went over it. The aircraft yawed to the right as the wing slid on cement wall.

FYI - operated by the Caribbean Flying Club out of Grimsby. Never heard of them. Apparently a new operation and I guess they are concerned about their reputation (thus the duct tape.)

Did it actually hit or slide over the median?

[pdw]

carb ice?

10:40am oct27
46F or 8C 96rh (IRICHM82 & IRICHM92)

[photofly]

1400Z METAR at CYTZ, about 10 miles away was :

27/10/2021 14:00-> METAR CYTZ 271400Z AUTO 01008KT 340V040 9SM FEW160 12/07 A3001 RMK SLP164=

That makes the relative humidity a very reasonable 70%. I was in the (dry, fabulously clear) air about five miles away at the same time, and there was no hint of icing, and, I understand he was climbing out after takeoff, with the throttle wide open, so not a lot of tendency for icing there.

I think it was variable tailwinds on final, personally.

[pdw]

North around Markham/CYKZ lower level take-off flight path is not same warmer/dry air at 1300-1400z as you are referring to at the south end / above GTA.

This forced landing sequence begins 15 nautical miles (27 kilometers) north of CYTZ. North end of GTA.

[Aviatard]

carb ice?

10:40am oct27
46F or 8C 96rh (IRICHM82 & IRICHM92)

You do understand that these Weather Underground stations are installed and run by anyone, without certification of any kind and not necessarily accurate or reliable? Mine has a bad humidity sensor that’s reporting 99% all the time. I haven’t gotten around to replacing it yet. So that 96% relative humidity is suspect at best.

[pdw]

Yes that’s true. You can come across failed readings. This area coverage of them seems to represent fairly well.

IMARKH8 49.5F. 97RH
IMARKH20. 46.9F. 98RH
MARKHAM13 48.0F. 94RH

IONTARIO722 48.2F 93RH
(Markham Station)

Deerbrook Trail. 48.0 F 89RH
Bayview Hill
(IRICHM125). 47.3F. 93RH

[CpnCrunch]

1400Z METAR at CYTZ, about 10 miles away was :

27/10/2021 14:00-> METAR CYTZ 271400Z AUTO 01008KT 340V040 9SM FEW160 12/07 A3001 RMK SLP164=

That makes the relative humidity a very reasonable 70%. I was in the (dry, fabulously clear) air about five miles away at the same time, and there was no hint of icing, and, I understand he was climbing out after takeoff, with the throttle wide open, so not a lot of tendency for icing there.

I think it was variable tailwinds on final, personally.

Have you ever had carb icing? The only time I've ever had it has been at full throttle on the climbout. At full throttle there is much more greater rate of accumulation of icing (if it is within the icing range), and at takeoff the engine (carb) is cooler. At lower throttles you do have a higher temperature drop, but less moisture in total accumulating. And at low power settings (except on a Cherokee) you generally have carb heat on.

In this case you can see from the pic that there are few clouds at a few thousand feet, and that is prime territory for carb icing near the water. Admittedly in a Cherokee it is less susceptible to icing due to engine design.

[pdw]

Well, that’s an incident. He’s basically barred from any job that asks if you’ve ever had an incident or an accident. /s

Is the TSB/TC gonna investigate? Or too small for them?

Captain’s right that could be a concern. But it seems like “TSB/TC” has the ability to quickly assess and act where more attention is needed. Why make it all doom and gloom if it’s a happy occasion (our “miracle on the Hudson”).

So for example, in case departure carbice confirmed the pilot’s great fortune at landing safely can become an opportunity for poster child to advocate renewed focus such as on cooling moisture (washer effect) near lakes in fall.

[cncpc]

No, captain's not right.

[goldeneagle]

Who let Pretty Dumb Wordsalad back?