Doctors trying to bring you the truth at great cost to themselves

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JerryRig wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 1:24 am Here's a list of various doctors trying to bring you the truth at great cost to themselves. Search for them on uncensored search engines and platforms such as Duck Duck Go, Telegram, Bitchute, Rumble and Odysee.
This is great news. Assuming all of these doctors are Canadian (and I know the're not), then only 0.22% of doctors are Covid-Quacks. If they're all Americans (and I know they're not), then only 0.02% are Covid-Quacks. World wide, they're only 0.002%. Looks like the scientific consensus is very strongly against the bullshit posted here.

Just for amusement purposes, I did do a search on one of those uncensored search engines, DuckDuckGo. Here's what it came up with:

One of the leading proponents of COVID-19 misinformation and conspiracy theories described traveling, and seemingly boarding flights, while experiencing symptoms after "serious COVID exposure."

Dr. Sherri Tenpenny described symptoms matching those of COVID-19, and described struggling to breathe while walking through an airport.


So, there's that.
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altiplano wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 7:42 am The University of Victoria is cancelling in person exams and dealing with a 124 person and counting outbreak in an entirely vaccinated, mask wearing population.

This despite unvaxxed individuals being banned from the campus and masks are required in all areas.

Vaccines and masks are effective!
Had my booster yesterday. Couldn't wait to get it! Increased protection from Omicron. I wear a mask all the time due to significant protection they provide as well.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/14/covid-b ... s-why.html

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc ... 9457332454
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Why is that important?
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This is how a mask study works…

Wait until after a wave of seasonal Covid hits near peak… implement mask policy in the spring, and as cases naturally decline because people are outdoors more claim it was the mask that was successful. :lol:

Any study with this methodology is garbage, but that’s literally what they all say… we made mandatory masks in the summer, and look at the cases drop! Uhhh but why did cases climb back up next winter? YoU mUsT bE aNtI sCiENcE!

Places that removed mask policy saw no changes. They had the same seasonal flair ups… downward and upward trends remained the same with its seasonality.

Didn’t Fauci say he couldn’t explain how there was no rise in cases when places like Florida and Texas dropped mandates… surprise! I have no clue why the data doesn’t match the narrative!
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Unfortunately, Peter McCullough is
as qualified to speak on an epidemiology/virology/immunology topic as a dentist.
We have 2 clowns here in Edmonton that make the list as well. Roger Hodkinson, a pathologist who's only work in the last couple decades has come as a defense witness in murder and sexual assault cases. The other is Dennis Modry a heart surgeon who was "retired" by AHS over a decade ago because his patients were dying at a rate far above his peers. He has been suing AHS since. Neither has the credentials to speak on the subject. It would be like Theresa Tam critiquing an opthamalic surgeon's technique. The top of that list is the former Pfizer VP who also happens to be marketing a non-mRna vaccine for covid as well. No conflict there...
CYERCaptainPooping wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 8:14 am I listened to the Joe Rogan podcast with Dr Peter McCullough. Lots of interesting points were brought up from the research he has been reading. And trust me I listened with skepticism.

He was asked about masks… and first and foremost he mentioned if you don’t have Covid, and the other party doesn’t have Covid, the masks didn’t stop Covid from transmission. He said masks filter about 3 micron’s where the virus is 1 micron. And lots of the air is escaping out the sides (he said 18 percent). Mask wearing is silly because we focus our energy on masking everyone when we know the spread typically happens from symptomatic people and it also happens with close contacts, and is very unlikely in the community. “85 percent of it spreads in the house”. That’s funny because where Covid spreads is one of the few places we don’t wear masks, but we know even if we did it would be very ineffective. I don’t think this is surprising… we know masks are extremely limited in efficacy and are mostly just virtu signalling.

He did say it makes sense for doctors, dentists and hairdressers to wear masks just because the close proximity, but to have masks mandates it’s completely illogical.

He also talked about vaccines for kids (I forget the exact age range for the stats). There’s a 4 to 6 fold increase in myocarditis in kids who get vaccinated vs the amount of children who are hospitalized from all causes of Covid. Also he mentioned 13 percent of people who get myocarditis have life long effects from it.

You are literally putting your kids at more risk by giving them a vaccine, 4x the risk. That’s unfortunate idiot parents are happy to line up for this stuff and jab their kids. I know lots of happy parents so eager to jab their kids with a vaccine we don’t even know how effective it is against unicorn… and put their kids at a measurable risk to myocarditis. Fucking insanity I tell ya.

Some points I was not sure about. He said you can’t get Covid twice. He said once you get it once you have immunity. I’m not sure I believe it. I think people get the flu more than once… just doesn’t seem like we can be certain. But he did back it up with his sources. Apparently the cdc once had 100 cases of reinfected but they didn’t follow a scientific process to solidify that these cases were reinfection… this is crazy because lots of people here are convinced vaccines are more effective than natural immunity. How do we have such conflicting information? I’m sceptical both ways in this I guess I’d have to look more into it.

He presented lots of data. Quite alarming really.
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kgb531 wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:05 pm Unfortunately, Peter McCullough is
as qualified to speak on an epidemiology/virology/immunology topic as a dentist.
We have 2 clowns here in Edmonton that make the list as well.
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Neither has the credentials to speak on the subject.
It is a logical fallacy to dismiss their arguments based on their credentials or lack thereof.
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Vaticinator wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:27 pm
kgb531 wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:05 pm Unfortunately, Peter McCullough is
as qualified to speak on an epidemiology/virology/immunology topic as a dentist.
We have 2 clowns here in Edmonton that make the list as well.
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Neither has the credentials to speak on the subject.
It is a logical fallacy to dismiss their arguments based on their credentials or lack thereof.
A fair point. But the whole reason for putting their names on the video, post, report etc. is to try to leverage their credentials when they have NONE.

If the report/video/post said, honestly, "hey, here's a bunch of people who have as much expertise as you and I on this subject" then we could feel free not to dismiss their arguments, and to give them as much weight as your and my opinions on the topic. Which isn't very much. But then it wouldn't get much notice, would it?

So when BOGUS credentials are presented, with an intent to mslead, that absolutely DOES provide GREAT evidence to dismiss the arguments presented.
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Might want to check the third graph down the page in this article. It represents the people who cause all those surgery delays.

https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/covid-19-in ... -1.5709081
Inverted2 wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 2:33 pm It's terrible how many have become almost rabid against those who chose not to take the vaccine. The narrative on the vaccines is falling apart. If they worked so great, why are we at the same rates of the covid this year when no one was vaccinated at this time last year? 2/3 of the cases in today were in fully immunized people. That doesn't sound like great immunity to me.
The graph provides a bit of an answer about why people, especially cancer patients and other people needing medical services became 'rabid'. It also should answer your other questions.
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So looking at those charts, an unvaccinated person between the age of 12-29 in Alberta is over twice as likely to end up in the ICU than a vaccinated 80+ year old?

The same unvaccinated person between 12 and 29 years old is also more likely to end up in a hospital than a vaccinated person in their 70s? Also more likely to die of COVID than a vaccinated person in their 60s?

Nah. None of this will change any minds.
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Bingo Fuel wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 5:59 pm So looking at those charts, an unvaccinated person between the age of 12-29 in Alberta is over twice as likely to end up in the ICU than a vaccinated 80+ year old?

The same unvaccinated person between 12 and 29 years old is also more likely to end up in a hospital than a vaccinated person in their 70s? Also more likely to die of COVID than a vaccinated person in their 60s?

Nah. None of this will change any minds.
Sure, with this type of silly interpretation the silly won't change their minds.
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https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/lifes ... d51a658733

The WHO says young, healthy, vaccinated people around the world are the ones spreading the unicorn variant. This is the pandemic of the vaccinated.
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BTW Robert Malone is not the inventor of mRNA vaccines. He did some experiments as a grad student back in the '80's I think. He's been on a self promotion tour claiming he's the inventor. Most people in the field credit Katalin Karinko with overcoming the most significant obstacles in the development of mRNA vaccines paving the way for the rapid roll out that we saw.

Andrew Wakefield had his medical license pulled for repeatedly falsifying data. He's the author of the lovely "MMR vaccine causes autism".

Kary Mullis is a Nobel laureate in chemistry I think. He invented PCR. He brilliant but he's definitely one of the out of the mainstream scientists. I think he spends his time surfing now. I'd at least listen to what he has to say.

Don't know anyone else.
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CYERCaptainPooping wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 8:14 am He also talked about vaccines for kids (I forget the exact age range for the stats). There’s a 4 to 6 fold increase in myocarditis in kids who get vaccinated vs the amount of children who are hospitalized from all causes of Covid. Also he mentioned 13 percent of people who get myocarditis have life long effects from it.
The rate of myocarditis post vaccine in adolescents is 70/1M. Only 20% were put in the ICU and there were no deaths in the study. However, the rate of myocarditis post Covid in adolescents is more than 10x higher. The vaccine doesn't cause myocarditis, it is an immune response to the spike protein from either the vaccine OR the virus.

https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/964144
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Once again, if you're sure you won't ever contract COVID19 then getting vaccinated is all risk and no reward. If you're sure you would, at some time, but-for-the-vaccine contract COVID19, then getting vaccinated is a good idea.

The scales are tipping away from the former and towards the latter risk, as things look, at the moment.
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Over at the MEDCANADA site there is a sub section titled PILOTS
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Do yourself a favour. Spend an hour watching Bret Weinstein in his podcast talking with Dr Peter McCullough about Covid. Find it on Youtube. You may find yourself somewhat enlightened on the subject.
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palebird wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:23 pm Do yourself a favour. Spend an hour watching Bret Weinstein in his podcast talking with Dr Peter McCullough about Covid. Find it on Youtube. You may find yourself somewhat enlightened on the subject.
No thanks. I prefer to get my information from reputable sources like scientific journals. Same kind of thing why you get your information from the AFM and not Mayday. With everything being freely available on line, why don't people link to Nature, Lancet, NEJM, etc? I avoid getting info from the trash sources like Youtube, FB, CBC, RT, etc. (BTW there's plenty of trash on both side.) Not that there's no good information there but like a landfill, every so often you find something of value. Sorry for coming across as smug.
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Bede wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:32 pm
palebird wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:23 pm Do yourself a favour. Spend an hour watching Bret Weinstein in his podcast talking with Dr Peter McCullough about Covid. Find it on Youtube. You may find yourself somewhat enlightened on the subject.
No thanks. I prefer to get my information from reputable sources like scientific journals. Same kind of thing why you get your information from the AFM and not Mayday. With everything being freely available on line, why don't people link to Nature, Lancet, NEJM, etc? I avoid getting info from the trash sources like Youtube, FB, CBC, RT, etc. (BTW there's plenty of trash on both side.) Not that there's no good information there but like a landfill, every so often you find something of value. Sorry for coming across as smug.
Thank god not everyone is like you. Otherwise the earth would still be considered to be flat.
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CYERCaptainPooping wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 6:49 am This is the pandemic of the vaccinated.
But a hospital overflow of the unvaccinated. I vote to start triage immediately. No more delayed surgeries or health care. They have first priority along with vaccinated covid patients. Unvaccinated covid patients get help, if available.
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RRJetPilot wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:31 pm
Bede wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:32 pm
palebird wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:23 pm Do yourself a favour. Spend an hour watching Bret Weinstein in his podcast talking with Dr Peter McCullough about Covid. Find it on Youtube. You may find yourself somewhat enlightened on the subject.
No thanks. I prefer to get my information from reputable sources like scientific journals. Same kind of thing why you get your information from the AFM and not Mayday. With everything being freely available on line, why don't people link to Nature, Lancet, NEJM, etc? I avoid getting info from the trash sources like Youtube, FB, CBC, RT, etc. (BTW there's plenty of trash on both side.) Not that there's no good information there but like a landfill, every so often you find something of value. Sorry for coming across as smug.
Thank god not everyone is like you. Otherwise the earth would still be considered to be flat.
That made absolutely no sense.
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If you dont understand the point that is on you.
This is interesting though:

https://www.reuters.com/world/refugees- ... 021-12-16/

BRUSSELS/BANGKOK, Dec 16 (Reuters) - Tens of millions of migrants may be denied COVID-19 vaccines from a global programme because some major manufacturers are worried about legal risks from harmful side effects, according to officials and internal documents from Gavi, the charity operating the programme, reviewed by Reuters.
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Let me take a guess what you're alluding to: people thought the earth was flat. Dissenters said it was round. Turns out the dissenters were right. Am I on the right track? Correct me if I'm wrong.

Well considering that we have known that the earth was approximately spherical since around 3rd century BC, what you're saying still makes no sense.

3 cheers for ignorance.
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Folks, you really do want to get your vaccine. Almost all the ICU patients are unvaxxed. And who wants to explain to friends and family that they didn't get the vaccine because the took advice from some known as Captain Pooping.

I could just see the discussion now with your work collegues.....

"Why didn't you get your vaccine like the rest of us to avoid this endless fatigue you have?"

Well, this guy on the internet called Captain Pooping advised me not to. He really sounded legit" :oops:
:lol: :roll: :smt042 :smt043 :smt044
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pelmet wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:50 pm
CYERCaptainPooping wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 6:49 am This is the pandemic of the vaccinated.
But a hospital overflow of the unvaccinated. I vote to start triage immediately. No more delayed surgeries or health care. They have first priority along with vaccinated covid patients. Unvaccinated covid patients get help, if available.
It doesn’t matter that’s it’s the non vaccinated in hospitals. The problem is the vaccinated were given special privileges like being able to work, go to games, restaurants etc. this is the cause of the unicorn wave…

We need to lock up the vaccinated who are spreading this the most, clearly just because you are vaccinated doesn’t mean it’s safe to work, it’s not safe to go to a jays game etc…

This is why we need to use the circuit breaker. Effective at 1201 December 27 the vaccinated will no longer be able to go to restaurants. Hockey games will be reduced capacity… Everything is on the table, including the vaccinated, they are definitely on the table. :lol:

As if Pelmet… I don’t have a following… I’m not a religious cult. My thoughts are my thoughts only. I’m happy for people to get vaccinated. I just think the government is doing a terrible job building trust. We are probably further away from getting the non vaccinated, vaccinated, because of the shit show going on in government. But that’s just my opinion.
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RRJetPilot wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:31 pm
Bede wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:32 pm
palebird wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:23 pm Do yourself a favour. Spend an hour watching Bret Weinstein in his podcast talking with Dr Peter McCullough about Covid. Find it on Youtube. You may find yourself somewhat enlightened on the subject.
No thanks. I prefer to get my information from reputable sources like scientific journals. Same kind of thing why you get your information from the AFM and not Mayday. With everything being freely available on line, why don't people link to Nature, Lancet, NEJM, etc? I avoid getting info from the trash sources like Youtube, FB, CBC, RT, etc. (BTW there's plenty of trash on both side.) Not that there's no good information there but like a landfill, every so often you find something of value. Sorry for coming across as smug.
Thank god not everyone is like you. Otherwise the earth would still be considered to be flat.
What kind of a Unicorn post is that? (RRJetPilot's one)
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