Petition for YYZ Raic Office

[Localizer]

Everyone should be signing this petition, from those currently employed as pilots, to those that want to be working as pilots one day. This process at YYZ is a disaster and is in need of change. Please be apart of that change. Thank you.

https://www.change.org/p/greater-toron ... re_initial

[Bede]

Signed. Maybe it's time we started hanging out at the YYZ Head office....

[PeterParker]

Welcome to the issue faced by everyone in every sector in every field. Won’t be a quick fix but the suggestions of electronic forms and getting appointments are good and should be the way to go in bringing things into the 21st century. They really only need to see you in person to verify details and identity. Why not make you do most of the work at home? Signed!

[DHC-1 Jockey]

Signed!

[Inverted2]

That place is a disaster. One of my co workers got there recently at 5am to beat the lineups and there were already about 50 there. Apparently people start to show up at 3am and the place doesn’t open till 8.

Signed

[sanjet]

How is the pass services in other countries if anyone has experience? This is embarrassing for the worlds most expensive airport. Third world country rating.

[rudder]

YVR RAIC process all managed by appointment and on line electronic submissions. Have never spent more than 5 minutes waiting.

Works perfectly.

YYZ RAIC process = train wreck.

[drone_driver24]

Part of the problem is the rules got changed. 1 day over 6 months with no recorded security use renders the RAIC and AVOP inactive. Driving now requires training, test, and driven test. Wait times are disgusting, and forcing people to line up for hours. This third world airport doesn't have extended hours to clear the backlog. Reminds me of years ago, when EVERYONE'S RAIC had to be renewed. Lineups were hours long outside, they brought in buses for people to wait in crappy weather.

[CL-Skadoo!]

Part of the problem is the rules got changed. 1 day over 6 months with no recorded security use renders the RAIC and AVOP inactive.

That cannot be correct, please tell me that is not correct. Our flight department carries them only for identification and in case we get checked on the ramp so they are NEVER scanned.

[goleafsgo]

Taking appointments would be a good start

[drone_driver24]

Part of the problem is the rules got changed. 1 day over 6 months with no recorded security use renders the RAIC and AVOP inactive.

That cannot be correct, please tell me that is not correct. Our flight department carries them only for identification and in case we get checked on the ramp so they are NEVER scanned.

When I first got recalled in July, everyone told me, go to security, drive thru, and go to secondary. I was away for about 5 months, and it worked out. I'm not sure about the red national pass.

[DHC-1 Jockey]

That cannot be correct, please tell me that is not correct. Our flight department carries them only for identification and in case we get checked on the ramp so they are NEVER scanned.

At Sunwing, we have pilots deploy to Europe from early April to the end of October/early November, which is definitely over 6 months. I've never heard of any of them coming back to Canada and their RAIC "timing out."

[co-joe]

That cannot be correct, please tell me that is not correct. Our flight department carries them only for identification and in case we get checked on the ramp so they are NEVER scanned.

At Sunwing, we have pilots deploy to Europe from early April to the end of October/early November, which is definitely over 6 months. I've never heard of any of them coming back to Canada and their RAIC "timing out."

It could be company specific. When we first got permission to fly scheds from T3 they would only give our pilots 1 year RAICs. Their way of letting us know we were on probation with them. After that year was up they went to 5 year RAICs as is the national standard.

[DHC-1 Jockey]

It could be company specific. When we first got permission to fly scheds from T3 they would only give our pilots 1 year RAICs. Their way of letting us know we were on probation with them. After that year was up they went to 5 year RAICs as is the national standard.

I understand that, but if co-joe has a normal 5-year RAIC, I don’t think it’ll “time out” after 6 months of inactivity.

Lots of pilots go on long-term medical or LOA’s and they would be better able to answer if their RAIC still works when they come back to work.