Poll, booster vs drug treatment

[photofly]

Which Avcanada epidemiologist/vaccinologist should I believe? The one who says we will only need 4 shots, or the one who says we'll need new shots all the time? Maybe Pfizer can offer a subscription box service like Hello Fresh or Dollar Shave Club. "Take the guesswork out of vaccines! The hottest new vaccines curated for you and delivered right to your door every month! Don't let your efficacy wane!"

I understand your strong desire for certainty. It's very human. Everyone would like that. What we can do (and have done) is test, and measure, and provide the best predictions about vaccine efficacy that we can.

[palebird]

You do realize that you cannot keep pumping all this crap into your system before something nasty happens right? You will do just fine without any of this nonsense if you are a healthy individual to start with. If you are not well good luck. Mother nature will deal with everyone and everything as she sees fit. Beware on unintended consequences. How do you get rid of Covid? Turn off the tv.

[Aviatard]

You do realize that you cannot keep pumping all this crap into your system before something nasty happens right?

Can you tell me exactly when this will happen? People said that before the first doses and nothing. Then got a second one but any bad reaction? Nope. Got a third too. Still have no reaction. Gonna get a fourth soon. Hopefully something nasty happens then.

Or you’re full of shit. Could also be that.

[altiplano]

These vaccines aren't comparable to flu shots.

Flu vaccines are made from modified live viruses or killed viruses and your body learns to attack the DNA of the actual virus that's expected to be the dominant strain any given year.

These RNA vaccines are telling your cells to manufacture spike proteins similar to the spike proteins found in all SARSCOV2 variants, hoping your body learns to attack that single part of the virus. All the variants have the spike protein, that's why they aren't altering the vaccine...

Thing is that spike proteins is one of the most dangerous features of this virus and associated with many of the complications found with covid. And we're telling our body to make more of it. Turns out that our body isn't very good at remembering how to fight spike proteins either, that's why tthe boosters are needed... more spike protein produced... and thus stuff isn't good for your and it's not staying in your arm. Dues anyone really want to keep juicing spike proteins?

[martinez]

If you have 2 hours and 45 minutes to spare, this is a fantastic podcast that I feel looks at many sides of this issue. You can find it on spotify and apple podcast too.



https://peterattiamd.com/covid-19-curre ... e-omicron/

[geodoc]

If you have 2 hours and 45 minutes to spare, this is a fantastic podcast that I feel looks at many sides of this issue. You can find it on spotify and apple podcast too.

https://peterattiamd.com/covid-19-curre ... e-omicron/

Or pour yourself a double scotch and settle in listening to this one:

SPECIAL EPISODE: Gwyneth Interviews Peter Attia about COVID-19

https://goop.com/the-goop-podcast/peter ... -covid-19/


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[photofly]

These vaccines aren't comparable to flu shots.

Says someone who in the very next sentence goes on EXACTLY to compare these vaccines with flu shots.

Sheesh.

Flu vaccines are made from modified live viruses or killed viruses and your body learns to attack the DNA of the actual virus that's expected to be the dominant strain any given year.

Pretty sure that’s not true.

Antibody and T-cell response doesn’t recognize foreign DNA. It does recognize foreign proteins. Killed viruses have those proteins which is how traditional vaccines work. MRNA vaccines create the same amount of foreign protein as the traditional vaccine would have injected.

You may be right about the spike protein causing damage, but the amount your body synthesizes after receiving an mRNA vaccine is tiny compared to the amount of exactly the same damaging protein your body synthesizes with a systemic COVID infection.

Think of the mRNA vaccine as COVID-lite-lite-lite-lite-lite.

[altiplano]

Semantics on comparable.

The response is provoked differently and vs. whole virus mrna is just training a response on the spike protein by training your body to make the spike protein which damages you. You don't want that spike protein in you.

[palebird]

Can you tell me exactly when this will happen? People said that before the first doses and nothing. Then got a second one but any bad reaction? Nope. Got a third too. Still have no reaction. Gonna get a fourth soon. Hopefully something nasty happens then.

Or you’re full of shit. Could also be that.

Interesting. Get out much? Good luck. You are going to need it.

[photofly]

Semantics on comparable.

The response is provoked differently and vs. whole virus mrna is just training a response on the spike protein by training your body to make the spike protein which damages you. You don't want that spike protein in you.

I don’t know what you mean by the response is provoked differently.

Agreed, you don’t want foreign proteins in your system.

And your choice is a tiny tiny tiny tiny amount, synthesized from the very short lived vaccine mRNA, or an enormous amount, in the form of a COVID infection.

Do you imagine that the spike proteins from the virus DNA is somehow better for you, less damaging, or different than the SAME protein synthesized from the vaccine mRNA? Do you have any idea how much of that protein your body makes when fully infected by the virus?

When someone is infected with COVID, what do you think happens to those spike proteins being manufactured en masse when billions of virally infected cells die and their membranes rupture?

Where do you think the proteins in all the virus in your COVID infected body go?

We know that a lot of people suffer long term effects from COVID. About 1.3 million people in the UK, at the moment, according to the BBC.

If you could guarantee never to get COVID then of course nobody would take the risk of a vaccine. But you can’t guarantee that.

[Aviatard]

Can you tell me exactly when this will happen? People said that before the first doses and nothing. Then got a second one but any bad reaction? Nope. Got a third too. Still have no reaction. Gonna get a fourth soon. Hopefully something nasty happens then.

Or you’re full of shit. Could also be that.

Interesting. Get out much? Good luck. You are going to need it.

Ok I’m willing to take your word on that. When should I check back and see if you’re correct? Just give me a time frame. Are we talking about 6 months? A couple of years? I need to know at what point to decide either something bad happened or nothing is going to happen.