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Re: Toronto Hospital 70% Unvaccinated

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Vaticinator wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:42 am
Aviatard wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:59 am @#$! you old folks.
Are you suggesting that saying a 25 year old is worth an infinite number of 80 year olds is not saying @#$! you old people? I assert that these statements are equivalent.

So if it doesn’t say that, then what does it say?
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FOD wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 12:31 pm Each oblivious to what is actually staring them straight in the eye.
You’ve all been fooled.
Thank god you’re here with the special knowledge of what’s really going on. Are you going to tell us so we can belong to your special clique too?

It’s the great reset isn’t it? I bet it’s the great reset.
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Vaticinator wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 6:11 am fear not, people over the age of 70 in this country are greater than 95% vaccinated and the majority of those are boosted. So they are completely safe, right?
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Aviatard wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:35 pm Are you suggesting that saying a 25 year old is worth an infinite number of 80 year olds is not saying @#$! you old people?
You left out the "with children" part which makes it a very different statement.

Also, nearly all 80 year olds are vaccinated, so they should be fine, right?
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TG wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 7:52 am A meme
Sometimes a picture is worth a thousand words. Sometimes it's worthless.
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Vaticinator wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 11:22 am
Aviatard wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:35 pm Are you suggesting that saying a 25 year old is worth an infinite number of 80 year olds is not saying @#$! you old people?
You left out the "with children" part which makes it a very different statement.

Also, nearly all 80 year olds are vaccinated, so they should be fine, right?
It makes your support of that statement equally heinous. You’re weirdly invested in getting people to agree with your anti - vaccine agenda, right?
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This whole Covid thing is over. Boris Johnson just declared the UK is done with it all. So all you characters beating the drum can lay it down now.
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Aviatard wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 11:28 am You’re weirdly invested in getting people to agree with your anti - vaccine agenda, right?
I don't have an anti vaccine agenda. I'm fully vaccinated. I think anyone who wants to be vaccinated should absolutely get as many doses as they want. I also think that anyone who doesn't want to be vaccinated should be free to make that choice free from coercion, fines, exclusion from society, etc.

It seems like you are the one with an agenda. One in which you don't believe that people should have freedom of un-coerced choice in the matter. And you seem weirdly invested in getting people to agree.

I wasn't afraid of covid before the vaccines and I'm certainly not afraid of it now. I don't understand why anyone who is vaccinated, would be afraid of it. The vaccines are effective, right? So you're as protected as you can be. Let's get on with life then. If other people want to roll the dice with their health as it relates to covid, that doesn't affect or bother me. We all expose ourselves to various risks every day. So there's a new one in the world. Ok. Act accordingly as you see fit. I'm not going to tell anyone what to do. Why is that so upsetting to you?
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Vaticinator wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 12:10 pm I don't have an anti vaccine agenda.
Don’t you have some already debunked, horse de-wormer non-cure for Covid to be promoting right now?
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palebird wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 11:37 am Boris Johnson just declared the UK is done with it all.
Okay...

So a politician fighting for their political survival, after umpteen different scandals with the last two being pissups at No. 10 and one being before the Duke of Edinburgh's funeral; should be taken at face value as a good indication of the progress of a global pandemic? Interesting, that once again a politician of a right wing stripe declares the pandemic over and all restrictions ended in the midst of a scandal - sounds a bit like wee Kenny in Alberta all over again, and it's all taken as face value by the "it's just a flu" crowd.

I thought we couldn't trust the government anymore? Isn't trusting the government the first step in letting the great reset happen? Oh the humanity! :roll:
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Aviatard wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 1:33 pm
Vaticinator wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 12:10 pm I don't have an anti vaccine agenda.
Don’t you have some already debunked, horse de-wormer non-cure for Covid to be promoting right now?
Why would I do that? Haven't you heard: it doesn't work.
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Vaticinator wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 11:24 am
TG wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 7:52 am A meme
Sometimes a picture is worth a thousand words. Sometimes it's worthless.
If you cannot see the analogy it proves your one sidded mind about vaccination.
You are just one pissed off individual of having been coerced into it.


Basically a two swords person.
In another topic you pretended that your nom de plume Vaticinator had nothing to do with vaccination, which is true according to the dictionary. I’m pretty sure though that you picked it up for its metaphore with vaccin.
You claim you are pro-vaccination and then come up with all kind of anti-vax rhetoric. Yes! You do and I’m not going to list them trying to answer your single line questions. Just re-read yourself and don’t pretend otherwise unless you are trolling.

I also think that this profile on AvCanada is not your main profile. Not quite sure though…

Speaking off, where is Captain pooping!? Maybe he is the new Jonmom? I am not alluding it’s you, he is just another anti-vax hidding his main profile here.


Ah well… Glad to see you had the shots anyway, too bad you did it for the wrong “value” (To keep your job) And sorry if all the confinement and restrictions messed up your family life. A necessary evil to prevent something worst in the grand scheme of things.
A bit like taking cover during the Blitz. It doesn’t necessary mean a bomb would aim exactly where you were sitting before going underground.
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TG wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 11:40 pm You are just one pissed off individual of having been coerced into it.
I'm not pissed off. I'm fine. If anything, I pity all of you who buy in to the fear porn.
TG wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 11:40 pm In another topic you pretended that your nom de plume Vaticinator had nothing to do with vaccination, which is true according to the dictionary. I’m pretty sure though that you picked it up for its metaphore with vaccin.
It's not a metaphor, and I picked it strictly for its dictionary definition. Really. But if it makes you happy to believe otherwise, I'm fine with that.
TG wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 11:40 pm You claim you are pro-vaccination and then come up with all kind of anti-vax rhetoric.
I'm neither pro nor anti vax. I'm pro people making their own choices and keeping their noses out of other people's business.
TG wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 11:40 pm I also think that this profile on AvCanada is not your main profile. Not quite sure though…
I did have a profile years back. Hadn't posted in a couple years, and couldn't figure out my old password. So yeah, it's a new account. So what?
TG wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 11:40 pm Ah well… Glad to see you had the shots anyway, too bad you did it for the wrong “value” (To keep your job)
Why would that be "too bad"? Can covid discern a person's motivations? You weirdos are all the same. It's not enough that everyone do what you want, you also want everyone to fully buy in to your religion of fear. It's creepy. Sorry, I'm not buying in. I'm not afraid of covid. Seems like you're scared enough for the both of us.
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Vaticinator wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 1:16 am I did have a profile years back. Hadn't posted in a couple years, and couldn't figure out my old password.
That's right up there with "the dog ate my homework".
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Vaticinator wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 1:16 am I'm neither pro nor anti vax. I'm pro people making their own choices and keeping their noses out of other people's business.
So you say but then a large number of your posts lean heavily toward anti-vaccine propaganda. How do you explain this?
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I don't feel the need to explain anything. Take it at face value, or interpret it how you want. I don't care. No one here is changing anyone's mind. At the end of the day we're all just here for entertainment.
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Vaticinator wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:25 pm No one here is changing anyone's mind. At the end of the day we're all just here for entertainment.
I can agree with you on this.
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photofly wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 1:11 pm
Vaticinator wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 1:16 am I did have a profile years back. Hadn't posted in a couple years, and couldn't figure out my old password.
That's right up there with "the dog ate my homework".
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Aww, the two people who like to falsely accuse people of being racist are teaming up. It's so adorable when virtue signalers find each other.
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You'll have to find a post where I called anyone a racist, but as far as what prompted your ire, you're just sore you got called out for it.

By the way, I saw this article today and thought of some of the things you've written.
https://slate.com/technology/2021/09/he ... loged.html
It has always been and remains a problem that COVID is functionally invisible to so many Americans. We already medicalize death more than most cultures, but the sensible restrictions on visitors to COVID wards have meant that the disease crippling hospitals across the country goes mostly unwitnessed. We all know getting on a ventilator is bad and having to go on an ECMO machine is worse, but most of us have not heard what lungs sound like when they have that by-now-classic “ground glass appearance” in scans. We have not watched people panicking and yanking tubes out because they can’t breathe. We have not seen patients swollen and full of air, unrecognizable. Or proned. Or having their last conversation before they go on the ventilator.

You don’t see most of this stuff in these r/HermanCainAward screenshots, either, but you do see a lot you just wouldn’t otherwise. Specifically, you see the suffering. It’s filtered, of course, usually through collapsing defiance and positive thinking that fails. People post that they’re not feeling well when they’ve already become patients. They usually put it simply, with a request for prayers. The contrast to their grandstanding in prior posts acts as an intensifier; that they aren’t commenting on the very thing they’ve preached about so much comes to serve—cumulatively, as you read these—as evidence of just how awful they feel. The selfies can be brutal. The photographs family members post are worse because the patient is frequently unconscious, bloated, clearly in a bad way. Relatives’ updates tend to feature obsessive medical details like ventilator settings and oxygen saturations, and you learn to recognize the time course of the disease: When mentions of dialysis start up, you know, as a reader, that the prognosis is poor. The death announcement—once the requests for prayers and hopes for miracles are over—frequently reveals how much worse it really was than anyone let on: You find out the patient also had MRSA, or had developed an autoimmune disease, or had struggled with strokes and clots.

Jaded though they are, many r/HermanCainAward readers have experienced this much as I did: as a truly frightening look at what COVID can really be like. What hundreds of stories about deaths told through mean-spirited screenshots reveal is that the disease—when it gets bad—is worse than even the most pro-vax person really understood.
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