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Vaticinator wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 6:23 pm Someone's chin diaper seems to be on too tight.
Face decorations is the preferred pronoun used by our trusted left news source, CNN.

“The science didn’t change, the political science changed.”
https://twitter.com/GovRonDeSantis/stat ... 8163900422

Ya don’t say! Like when Fauci and tam both said masks don’t work a couple years ago. Then the political science changed. Where is dialdriver, Red Baron, rockie??? :lol:
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A few posts ago, you suggested I was perturbed. Right back at you, my friend:
rookiepilot wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 6:25 pm
Impact wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 6:00 pm
rookiepilot wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 4:53 pm Oh, and if you ever take your children to ANY protest, they are preparing a standard that the Children’s Aid Society…..can seize your child.

Yes….I’m deliberately being provocative. But truthful.


https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/o ... -1.6343814

We'll rely on the Children's Aid Society to help provide and give us guidance around that. We just think it's an important factor that complicates and makes this an even more challenging operation."

In a statement to CBC, the society confirmed it is working with Ottawa police and said it has a duty to investigate allegations of abuse and whether a child may need protection.
I've mentioned it before, a control freak will always apply more control, as their preferred option.

Now the OPS is trampling on the Charter Rights of children. :shock: It's disgusting.
So now all of the protestors are child abusers too?
I think you're seeing what you want to see. There's a difference between taking your children to a protest and having them live in a truck with you for two weeks in the middle of Ottawa when they should probably be attending school.

It also means the police need to have an idea of what to do if adults are arrested and there are children left to care for.

Children's Aid Societies do have a statutory duty to investigate allegations of abuse; that is quite correct. That doesn't mean they'll find any, here, or anywhere else. If they do, I'm sure you'll agree they should (and will) do something about it.
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The ignorance of the middle to extreme right is no more clearly on display as to when they think Liberals are politically left. You see, we are the centre of the political spectrum and therefore we may seem be politically 'left' to you but in reality we are the centre of the universe and you all just revolve around us. Our superiority is in all ways is clearly demonstrated by the scheer success of campaigns and that we have no tooles on board or any backwoods schmoe. Justin for ten more years...3 cheers for the Prime Minister of Canada.
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photofly wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 6:36 pm A few posts ago, you suggested I was perturbed. Right back at you, my friend:
rookiepilot wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 6:25 pm
Impact wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 6:00 pm

I've mentioned it before, a control freak will always apply more control, as their preferred option.

Now the OPS is trampling on the Charter Rights of children. :shock: It's disgusting.
So now all of the protestors are child abusers too?
I think you're seeing what you want to see. There's a difference between taking your children to a protest and having them live in a truck with you for two weeks in the middle of Ottawa when they should probably be attending school.

It also means the police need to have an idea of what to do if adults are arrested and there are children left to care for.

Children's Aid Societies do have a statutory duty to investigate allegations of abuse; that is quite correct. That doesn't mean they'll find any, here, or anywhere else. If they do, I'm sure you'll agree they should (and will) do something about it.
I think the "adults" in this "good buddy trucker convoy" are the children the authorities are after.
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In response to Kenney's latest announcement on lifting Covid restrictions, word has it from the Truckers in Coutts that they won't lift the protest until ALL restrictions are lifted.....including the "arrows on grocery store floors". :lol:

I love it.
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I love it that there are snipers posted around Ottawa...so much trust! one false move and BOOM!
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Impact wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 6:48 pm In response to Kenney's latest announcement on lifting Covid restrictions, word has it from the Truckers in Coutts that they won't lift the protest until ALL restrictions are lifted.....including the "arrows on grocery store floors". :lol:

I love it.
You will wait until we say it's all clear, not the good buddy trucker convoy...sorry to harsh your mellow
of course kenney is well, bent over for this move-spit roasted you might say lol
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Inverted2 wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 5:08 pm Did not read the above 2 posts but I hope this persons SSRI meds come in soon. :lol:
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Inverted2 wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 5:43 pm
WellThatAgedWell wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 5:33 pm Looks like Iflygirls92 original account. The old man who created an account to pretend to be a woman. I never did get those PMs I asked for. Very disappointing.
That person also sent some very nasty private messages and I think it’s the same person. He gave me his name and I believe I know who it is although I won’t list the name as this person is off on long term disability and has obvious mental health issues.
go ahead who do you think I am? I may be hot so I could call sexism.
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Photofly,

I, and many others, are perturbed.

Despite this, I am attempting to (very politely) communicate my thoughts, which mirror the Liberal MP’s who spoke out today, to my own MP, a first time MP. To influence future change around unity.

The government, as a whole, and JT as leader, I have little sympathy for.

This is a mess of their own doing.

Leadership is developing unity and bringing everyone on board as a team.

Trudeau has personally demonized and smeared people who are reluctant to follow him one too many times, and now he messed with the wrong group.

Humility goes a long way.
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rookiepilot wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:08 pm Photofly,

I, and many others, are perturbed.

Despite this, I am attempting to (very politely) communicate my thoughts, which mirror the Liberal MP’s who spoke out today, to my own MP, a first time MP. To influence future change around unity.

The government, as a whole, and JT as leader, I have little sympathy for.

This is a mess of their own doing.

Leadership is developing unity and bringing everyone on board as a team.

Trudeau has personally demonized and smeared people who are reluctant to follow him one too many times, and now he messed with the wrong group.

Humility goes a long way.
Yup, that's some "I'm the victim" humility...I have no sympathy for sad lives you people live, it's all in your head though
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Just another canuck wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 5:24 pm
Inverted2 wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 5:08 pm Did not read the above 2 posts but I hope this persons SSRI meds come in soon. :lol:
I blocked them. Everyone should do the same.
Me too? You see, I just repost all your "foe" blocker stupidity with my wisdom and shazam! my posts will live forever...with the last word
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rookiepilot wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:08 pm Photofly,

I, and many others, are perturbed.

Despite this, I am attempting to (very politely) communicate my thoughts, which mirror the Liberal MP’s who spoke out today, to my own MP, a first time MP. To influence future change around unity.

The government, as a whole, and JT as leader, I have little sympathy for.
Me either.
This is a mess of their own doing.
Many people can simultaneously be responsible for a mess. The people primarily responsible for the mess in Ottawa are the people directly causing the mess. To claim otherwise is to infatilize the protesters: poor dears, they know no better, JT drove them to it. They had no choice. It's not their fault. There are many ways to express dissatisfaction with a government without bringing a city downtown to a standstill, closing businesses, and troubling the residents for days on end.

The point of a protest is to make the strength of your feelings known. That was achieved on the first weekend. A protest doesn't get to hold a city or a government to ransom. A thousand protesters get the influence of a thousand voters only, which is not enough to overthrow a democracy. The appropriate time to change a government is at the next election.
Leadership is developing unity and bringing everyone on board as a team.

Trudeau has personally demonized and smeared people who are reluctant to follow him one too many times, and now he messed with the wrong group.

Humility goes a long way.
I agree. But a lack of humility and poor leadership doesn't directly cause require or excuse people blowing air horns at 2am outside residents' bedroom windows.
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PF,

I agree and have said more than once its time for the protestors to leave.

Illegal acts, absolutely prosecuted.

If someone is doing something at all illegal, hate crimes, harassment of people on the street, violence, whatever — charge them. End of story.

But STFU to the media with these vague stories and innuendo. Either a crime or it isn’t.

The only swastika I’ve heard of, one, and it came from someone in the Chateau Laurier.

But listen to the government, you’ed think there were a hundred nazi flags.

The government is supposed to be the adult in the room — and they have referred to themselves as such repeatedly when it suits them. Act like it — now.

Can’t have it both ways — and have the government go way over the top with toxic labelling, and then expect a non emotional, rational response from the people they are attacking, and then point the finger when it doesn’t happen.

Provoking is wrong. Gaslighting, lying, distorting, wrong.

As for the media’s part in this — reprehensible.
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I've been reading the BBC and the Guardian, and I don't get the same sense of the media playing it up as you do.
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photofly wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:36 pmA thousand protesters get the influence of a thousand voters only, which is not enough to overthrow a democracy. The appropriate time to change a government is at the next election.
That's simply not true.
A thousand protesters control a thousand votes directly but will influence -pro or con- many more people.

I would say that in this particular case, the government's reaction has an ever stronger effect, but it is also caused by the protestors.

I agree. But a lack of humility and poor leadership doesn't directly cause require or excuse people blowing air horns at 2am outside residents' bedroom windows.
Blog from a local resident:
https://maybury.ca/the-reformed-physici ... ouchables/

No honking after 6pm.

Don't know if the source is trustworthy, but it does seem pretty factual and without the drama found in other media.
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Just another example of forming a false opinion based on heavily biased media, by no fault of your own.

Photofly, come to Ottawa and spend a few days downtown to see with your own eyes. Yes, there's been an inconvenience, yes it would be better for people and business if they weren't there, but don't believe for a second it's a sea of harrasing, horn-honking rednecks trying to make people's lives miserable 24/7.

The number of horn honks after about 8pm barely equal the amount normally heard in the core. Some of the people you're hearing complaining are people that will take offense about anything and shouldn't be living downtown. The same people who move beside an airport and complain about planes. Strange how they'd normally be ignored by everyone but suddenly their stories are being published in national media.

Unapologetically, if you aren't here in person, you have no basis to make an emphatic opinion about it since you're only repeating a second hand story.
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DanWEC wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 9:15 pm Just another example of forming a false opinion based on heavily biased media, by no fault of your own.

Photofly, come to Ottawa and spend a few days downtown to see with your own eyes. Yes, there's been an inconvenience, yes it would be better for people and business if they weren't there,
That's quite enough by itself. The point is made. Go home.
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Honking your horn is now illegal in Ottawa. This old man got hauled away for it.
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Inverted2 wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 9:29 pm

Honking your horn is now illegal in Ottawa. This old man got hauled away for it.
In the land where I grew up, it was a strict offence to sound your horn anywhere, at any time, unless your vehicle was both in motion and it was done for the purpose of warning another vehicle of your presence.

it was and still is a great rule.
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photofly wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 9:28 pm
DanWEC wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 9:15 pm Just another example of forming a false opinion based on heavily biased media, by no fault of your own.

Photofly, come to Ottawa and spend a few days downtown to see with your own eyes. Yes, there's been an inconvenience, yes it would be better for people and business if they weren't there,
That's quite enough by itself. The point is made. Go home.
Ha! Take half a statement and quote it. Well done. Very credible, but in the name of your legendary self importance you must be correct.
Look, I live in Ottawa. You don't. You can come and stay with me. I have beer.
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DanWEC wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 9:37 pm
photofly wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 9:28 pm
DanWEC wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 9:15 pm Just another example of forming a false opinion based on heavily biased media, by no fault of your own.

Photofly, come to Ottawa and spend a few days downtown to see with your own eyes. Yes, there's been an inconvenience, yes it would be better for people and business if they weren't there,
That's quite enough by itself. The point is made. Go home.
Ha! Take half a statement and quote it. Well done. Very credible, but in the name of your legendary self importance you must be correct even though I live in Ottawa. You don't. You can come and stay with me. I have beer.
I don't understand your point about quoting half a statement, since I quoted the statement of fact that I wanted to respond to, and for the purposes of argument I accept the truth of everything else you wrote. If there's an inconvenience to anyone, which you say there is, even if not to you, then it's time for it to end. That's it.
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PF- I don't have an agenda either way about the protests. I'm actually bit conflicted really because I don't align with 99% of their general opinions however I am of the mind that the current gov't enforced vaccine mandates are an ongoing judgement error.

That being said, a protest isn't much of a protest if it isn't an inconvenience. However, I was FAR more inconvenienced living downtown Toronto during the G7. I also lived at the bottom of Glen Manor in the beaches and couldn't even think about getting in my car during Jazz fest. No big whup.
My main point, and the reason I went against my own best instincts and replied in this sub-forum, is that so many people outside of this city are under a misapprehension purely because of the false environment being portrayed by some media outlets. I'm just trying to give people a bit of unbiased first-hand perspective. An anarchistic mayhem stadium it is not.
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Wow.I recognize a lot of jazz affiliates among these hostile contributors. Not hard to prove by the main line folks. Just sayin. wow
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Inverted2 wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 9:29 pm Honking your horn is now illegal in Ottawa. This old man got hauled away for it.
The old guy was being a combative prick, to put it mildly, from the get go. The officer was incredibly patient in the situation. In addition to dealing with a combative individual during a traffic stop having to deal with some asshole filming the interaction and making the situation even more incendiary, I'd say he's a standup member of the force and should be commended for his restraint.
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