rookiepilot wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 5:55 pm
photofly wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 5:49 pm
It’s pretty axiomatic in this discussion that Trudeau’s an idiot, and most sensible people (on all sides) don’t pay any attention to his rhetoric.
Why do so many (unnamed) people vote for him then?
It is complex, but in part:
A significant amount of the descendants of people who created western civilization have this guilt complex of living a fairly good life while others don't(regardless of the reasons why). And they have this incredibly powerful desire that they have to do something, anything, to offset that guilt(although most of them want it done on the backs of someone else). These are people who base things on emotion instead of logic. To relieve their guilt complex, they will vote for people who say that they will save the world with green policies or make up for things in the past with affirmative action policies or send our vaccines overseas. They are willing to look the other way at what the real harsh truth is for the reasons of why structural problems exist in the first place. But by doing this, they have convinced themselves that they are now good people and can get on with life. Challenge them and you are challenging what they believe to be their very existence as a good person, which is why you get such a visceral, angry, insulting reaction of what a terrible person you are who should be cancelled and lose your career. Many are complete hypocrites though, like famous actors in their business jets pontificating about green policies or just your typical vacationers.
Others are gullible fools that will believe any sky is falling story, even though terrifying predictions have been made for millenia. They have to vote for something to be done.
But there is more. Another large segment are the freeloaders for tax dollars. They may hate the woke agenda, but using the example of a government bureaucrat, there is no way they are going to give up a cent of that pension(or a minute of their vacation) which is much more important to them than whether racist laws for hiring are implemented or even for vaccinations(although it can be annoying to them as more and more health care by race is implemented by the woke crowd).
The freeloaders extends to a large group of society. For example, under the conservatives, a logical policy that was in place was that immigrants that come here must be economically beneficial to the country. All Trudeau had to do was say that the Canadian taxpayer will gladly pay for your elderly parents to come over here from a third world country and huge swaths of them changed their vote to a vote that screws the Canadian taxpayer over for billions of dollars of health care costs for their self-interest.
Then there are the irresponsible people. They want a handout instead of working and if they commit a crime....well they are the victim and should have leniency. Why would they vote for a party that has generally preferred a law and order agenda and sound fiscal management that requires them to get a job.
Put the irresponsible people, the emotionally needy people, the gullible fools, and the freeloaders together and you get a powerful voting block. Many may not like him, but they will certainly vote for him(or the next one that comes along).
And it is just getting worse. Increase the immigration and you get more people wanting family over. Pay more people not to work and more people buy into it. Raise kids in school to believe the sky is falling and they will vote for their lives. I don't see much change in the future. I see a country slowly going down the drain, and not just financially(along with much of the soft western civilization). All at a time when bad actors on the world stage are getting stronger.
In the end, most of us vote for self-interest. But the self-interest of a significant portion of the population is accumulatively detrimental to society.
