Truckers convoy

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The same people calling the comparison of Canada to totalitarian regimes ridiculous, were the same people clutching their pearls breathlessly referring to the trucker protest as an "invasion", "occupation", and similar.

If one is going to call out nonsense it needs to be exposed equally. Lots of drama queens on both sides of the coin, as you're proving.

I called the blocking of the bridges that was costing billions and shutting down major manufacturing plants economic warfare. Was that ridiculous of me?

Warfare is a bit strong. Economic violence? Sure.

[WellThatAgedWell]

What does retirement look like for the “you will own nothing and you will be happy” great reset initiative? If we can’t own property and we have no assets do we just count on CPP to keep us happy? Or maybe you never retire?

When will Trudeau lay out the details of how happy we will be with his plan?

[pelmet]

The same people calling the comparison of Canada to totalitarian regimes ridiculous, were the same people clutching their pearls breathlessly referring to the trucker protest as an "invasion", "occupation", and similar.

If one is going to call out nonsense it needs to be exposed equally. Lots of drama queens on both sides of the coin, as you're proving.

I called the blocking of the bridges that was costing billions and shutting down major manufacturing plants economic warfare. Was that ridiculous of me?

Warfare is a bit strong. Economic violence? Sure.

Actually, I do like to be accurate. No one can credibly argue against “significant economic interference”.

[rookiepilot]

The same people calling the comparison of Canada to totalitarian regimes ridiculous, were the same people clutching their pearls breathlessly referring to the trucker protest as an "invasion", "occupation", and similar.

If one is going to call out nonsense it needs to be exposed equally. Lots of drama queens on both sides of the coin, as you're proving.

I called the blocking of the bridges that was costing billions and shutting down major manufacturing plants economic warfare. Was that ridiculous of me?

Warfare is a bit strong. Economic violence? Sure.

Economic warfare against the people.

And no one sees it.

[Aviatard]

I called the blocking of the bridges that was costing billions and shutting down major manufacturing plants economic warfare. Was that ridiculous of me?

Warfare is a bit strong. Economic violence? Sure.

Economic warfare against the people.

And no one sees it.

You’re right. Those “trucker” occupiers definitely did that.

[pelmet]

Warfare is a bit strong. Economic violence? Sure.

Economic warfare against the people.

And no one sees it.

You’re right. Those “trucker” occupiers definitely did that.

It was one movement with multiple facets, all under the name of freedom.

[rookiepilot]

CBC bias of the day. Countless examples, here’s one.

3 articles on Tamara Lich appealing her bail hearing.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/t ... -1.6369891

CBC— Magas said the bail review application was made partly because she felt the provincial court judge in the original bail hearing, Justice Julie Bourgeois, made errors when denying Lich bail.

Magas said her use of the term "our" when referring to Ottawa in her decision risked the appearance of bias against Lich.

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/ta ... ed-herself

National post: said the same, plus the below — somehow left out of the CBC article.

In court Wednesday, Lich’s lawyer filed an affidavit on her behalf that said had she known Bourgeois was a Liberal candidate in the 2011 federal election, she would have asked the justice to recuse herself from the case.

https://globalnews.ca/news/8654843/conv ... il-denial/

Global news:

One of the points that Lich made in an affidavit she put before Justice Johnston to support her application was that she learned after her bail hearing that the bail judge, Justice Bourgeois, was a candidate in the 2011 general election for the Liberal Party of Canada and, according to her affidavit, she learned Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau praised Bourgeois’ candidacy at the time.

Oops.

Notice, like many political articles, the CBC also blocks all comments, to prevent corrections?

Why would the CBC leave this part out?

I’ll wait.

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Why do you think they didn't include it?

[rookiepilot]

Why do you think they didn't include it?

Dunno, but they have no restraint along with MSN, in calling for WW3


https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/porosh ... -1.6370760

[rookiepilot]

Today: CBC “Investigates” —. Publicly Naming and Shaming Convoy donors.

Might be you next, or someone you know.

This is what my tax dollars supports? Ambush attack Media? Aren’t there more important issues now?

“Half of 200 top American donors have names matching those of donors to Republicans and former president.” Horrors. Firing squad for them all.

“Only six convoy donors appear to have donated in the past to the Democratic Party or its candidates,”. — Shocking.

“Data made public on Feb. 13 — after GiveSendGo's "Freedom Convoy 2022" crowdfunding page was illegally hacked” —. And here come the names. What??

“Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has said that the government should examine the role that money donated from outside Canada played in the protest.” — Firing Squad.

“There are also reflections we have to have on misinformation and disinformation and looking at ... the role of foreign money and foreign influence in attempts to undermine or even destabilize our democracy,”. — get ready for censorship in Canada.

“New Hampshire resident Roy Bettle was one of the more than 51,000 Americans who contributed to the GiveSendGo campaign. In the past, the cybersecurity expert has donated to a wide variety of causes and political candidates, including former U.S. president Donald Trump.” —- Lets name and Shame now, paid by your tax dollars.

“According to the GiveSendGo database, Travis Moore, who listed an Idaho zip code, donated $17,760 U.S. to the Freedom Convoy 2022 campaign”

“Gerald Benitz, who listed a Harvard, Massachusetts zip code, donated $1,200 US to the convoy protest on Feb. 5”

So now the CBC Is naming names from an illegally hacked database, implicitly encouraging doxing, threats, and job losses to donors?

Well done CBC! Voice of Integrity!

Seems out of line. Even for them.

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“Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has said that the government should examine the role that money donated from outside Canada played in the protest.”

“There are also reflections we have to have on misinformation and disinformation and looking at... the role of foreign money and foreign influence in attempts to undermine or even destabilize our democracy.”

Absolutely, there should be an investigation into the role foreign money/influence played on the size of as well as the broader organization of the "protest" in question. The same questions need to be asked in a more forward looking way, when we consider that this type of fundraising can and will be used in the future for similar means.

If you consider things beyond the "convoy" for a moment, how would you feel if foreign entities, non-state actors, or other nations began pouring money into subverting our democratic institutions? Because it's already happening, and will continue to happen as long as you and others turn a seemingly blind eye to the issue - or try and pass it off as being a hyper partisan issue or some sort of a witch hunt.

If you want to go a few steps further than simply using foreign funds to pervert democracy, how about you consider the role tightly controlled state media plays in manufacturing consent for illegal actions; for example, invading a sovereign nation under the pretext of stopping genocide. But I mean hey, those videos of Russian teenage conscripts crying on the phone to their mothers and begging to be allowed to go home (and saying that they were told this was merely an exercise, or a peacekeeping mission at the invitation of Ukraine, etc.) are an absolute propaganda coup for the Ukrainians - they're showing how ignorant and brainwashed some portion of the troops they've been fighting are. The thing is, those same videos aren't being seen in Russia, nor are the videos of bodies burning on the streets of Kyiv by the Holocaust Memorial at Babyn Yar, or the damage to Kharkiv or elsewhere from indiscriminate shelling...

Frankly, I'm getting sick and tired of listening to the "outrage" from a handful of loudmouths whom still think their freedom has been infringed upon (or that the media is unfairly portraying a bunch of wannabe insurrectionists, fascists, and seditionists as anything other than what they really are) when there's a fucking illegal war being waged with civilians being murdered and forced to flee in unprecedented numbers - all the while Europe's largest nuclear power plant is being shelled and on fire... etc.

[Aviatard]

So now the CBC Is naming names from an illegally hacked database, implicitly encouraging doxing, threats, and job losses to donors?

Well done CBC! Voice of Integrity!

Seems out of line. Even for them.

Your support of foreign actors financing an illegal attempt to replace our government seems a bit out of line. Even for you.

[rookiepilot]

So now the CBC Is naming names from an illegally hacked database, implicitly encouraging doxing, threats, and job losses to donors?

Well done CBC! Voice of Integrity!

Seems out of line. Even for them.

Your support of foreign actors financing an illegal attempt to replace our government seems a bit out of line. Even for you.

https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/ontario-gove ... -1.5784390

Let's go after all the $100 donors who donated before the government even deemed it an illegal protest. Witch hunts will bring unity to Canada.

[tsgarp]

Frankly, I'm getting sick and tired of listening to the "outrage" from a handful of loudmouths whom still think their freedom has been infringed upon (or that the media is unfairly portraying a bunch of wannabe insurrectionists, fascists, and seditionists as anything other than what they really are) when there's a fucking illegal war being waged with civilians being murdered and forced to flee in unprecedented numbers - all the while Europe's largest nuclear power plant is being shelled and on fire... etc.

I’m sick and tired of the histrionics of a very small group of divisionalists who label everybody with whom they disagree as a fascist. That type of labelling and unwillingness to listen is the reason why the convoy movement got started. The foreign money that I’m most concerned about is the cash flowing from the CHICOMS to the groups that originate the divisionalist doctrine which you cleave to with such relish.

[tsgarp]

So now the CBC Is naming names from an illegally hacked database, implicitly encouraging doxing, threats, and job losses to donors?

Well done CBC! Voice of Integrity!

Seems out of line. Even for them.

Your support of foreign actors financing an illegal attempt to replace our government seems a bit out of line. Even for you.

Histrionics

[WellThatAgedWell]

Frankly, I'm getting sick and tired of listening to the "outrage" from a handful of loudmouths whom still think their freedom has been infringed upon (or that the media is unfairly portraying a bunch of wannabe insurrectionists, fascists, and seditionists as anything other than what they really are) when there's a fucking illegal war being waged with civilians being murdered and forced to flee in unprecedented numbers - all the while Europe's largest nuclear power plant is being shelled and on fire... etc.

This is usually how I formulate my arguments also.

Take someone who lost their job on layoff who is struggling to put food on the table… I say “frankly I’m sick and tired of listening to your loud mouth… did you know kids in Ethiopia are starving. You don’t have real issues, the real issues are in Ethiopia!”

Basically the way it works is that you can always find an example of how someone else has it worse. You leverage the comparison to discredit any argument. If someone loses a finger just find an example of someone who lost an arm! Then just tell the to step the @#$! back and let that sink in! You still have 9 fingers left brotha… why you complaining?

So hell yeah! Anyone want to tell me you believe in freedom… go on tell me… then I’m gonna slam Freedumbs in yo face! Let you know you could be in North Korea. So back up! Show some respect! No Freedumbs for you. Your experience is irrelevant as long as I can make up a ridiculous comparison where one has nothing to do with the other.

[Aviatard]

This is usually how I formulate my arguments also.

Take someone who lost their job on layoff …

Oh no no no. These people didn’t get laid off. This wasn’t some plant closing due to overseas competition. They chose their path through sheer contrarian stubbornness. In cooperative society they’re the cheaters, the freeloaders, the 10% who choose “you can’t tell me what to do”. They’re the causes of their own misfortune. Freedumb indeed

[Bingo Fuel]

Meanwhile Doug Ford has been sitting on 5.5 billion dollars instead of using those funds to improve Ontario's health care system.

Nope, instead he'll spend 1 billion to eliminate licence plate stickers as a transparent vote grab gimmick.

[WellThatAgedWell]

This is usually how I formulate my arguments also.

Take someone who lost their job on layoff …

Oh no no no. These people didn’t get laid off. This wasn’t some plant closing due to overseas competition. They chose their path through sheer contrarian stubbornness. In cooperative society they’re the cheaters, the freeloaders, the 10% who choose “you can’t tell me what to do”. They’re the causes of their own misfortune. Freedumb indeed

Who is “they” and how do you figure you understand so well everyone’s personal circumstances?
But all that was besides my point. I was not really debating whether the protest was valid or not. My only point was the complete lack of empathy from the group think covidians. You think the people who were protesting don’t have the self realization of how shitty things are in Ukraine? This doesn’t have to take away from any hardship they have experienced.

Imagine you were negotiating your work contract and the argument from the other side said “look at x airline, they pay 500 dollars” should we lack empathy of all hardship and strive to compare to the lowest common denominator? Imagine a company that justify paying you less because they find the lowest paid pilot in the world and say “see that’s low pay! You should be happy!”

Since when in life did we compare to the worst as a way of moving forward. How ridiculous!

[rookiepilot]

Imagine a company that justify paying you less because they find the lowest paid pilot in the world and say “see that’s low pay! You should be happy!”

Yeah I don't see any of that on this site.

I do see a lot of entry level pilots bitching about their lot in life, not making 100 K with a brand new CPL, complaining they have to clean a cabin once in a blue moon, while they wear their 3 bars in the mall. (paid for by the bank of mom and dad)

You have no idea how good you have it compared to truckers, who make a pittance forever, and work 4 X as hard.

Self - important excuses for human beings. Have zero idea what hard work even looks like, in my OP

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Imagine a company that justify paying you less because they find the lowest paid pilot in the world and say “see that’s low pay! You should be happy!”

Yeah I don't see any of that on this site.

I do see a lot of entry level pilots bitching about their lot in life, not making 100 K with a brand new CPL, complaining they have to clean a cabin once in a blue moon, while they wear their 3 bars in the mall. (paid for by the bank of mom and dad)

You have no idea how good you have it compared to truckers, who make a pittance forever, and work 4 X as hard.

Self - important excuses for human beings. Have zero idea what hard work even looks like, in my OP

One wonders why you spend quite so much time on a site full of such odious people.

[rookiepilot]

Imagine a company that justify paying you less because they find the lowest paid pilot in the world and say “see that’s low pay! You should be happy!”

Yeah I don't see any of that on this site.

I do see a lot of entry level pilots bitching about their lot in life, not making 100 K with a brand new CPL, complaining they have to clean a cabin once in a blue moon, while they wear their 3 bars in the mall. (paid for by the bank of mom and dad)

You have no idea how good you have it compared to truckers, who make a pittance forever, and work 4 X as hard.

Self - important excuses for human beings. Have zero idea what hard work even looks like, in my OP

One wonders why you spend quite so much time on a site full of such odious people.

I didn’t start this thread.

What does a truckers convoy even have to do with aviation?

What even qualifies pilots to comment on the struggles truckers have?

I have a relative and 2 close friends that are truckers. The pandemic has been hell for them.

No one cares as long as they get the pop and chips. No has given them hero pay. How about some empathy for people in a shitty job?

I would love to see a general strike. Then people would wake up a touch.

[tsgarp]

Why do you think they didn't include it?

Because the Judge is a member of the same political party that is responsible for pumping lifesupport cash into the CBC maybe?

[photofly]

Why do you think they didn't include it?

Because the Judge is a member of the same political party that is responsible for pumping lifesupport cash into the CBC maybe?

Are you asking me or telling me?

[tsgarp]

Why do you think they didn't include it?

Because the Judge is a member of the same political party that is responsible for pumping lifesupport cash into the CBC maybe?

Are you asking me or telling me?

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