Do you still need a 4 year degree for a US major

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Do you still need a 4 year degree for a US major

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Assuming you meet the requirements to legally work and live in the US, do you still require a degree to get hired by a US major or major cargo operator Fedex/UPS. I know on the airline websites most have dropped the prerequisite for a degree but still prefer it but have many candidates been recently hired without the 4 year degree?

Assuming the candidate currently works for a CAD major and has:
FAA ATP with FAA Medical
5000+ TT
2000+ Jet
1000+ MPIC on Q400
320 type rating
2 year aviation diploma from college in Canada

I know there are some online programs from US university’s that offer accelerated aviation degrees that take into account previous college credits and flight ratings so that you can complete the degree within a year or two (Liberty university).

Would the candidate have a chance at a US major without the 4 year degree or should they start the process of obtaining one.


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I have a friend who got hired by Alaska AL w/o one 3-4 years ago. No jet time either. Only heavy time was in a DC6 in Alaska for two years. Before that, all SE float time and an A&P.



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Re: Do you still need a 4 year degree for a US major

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The single biggest scam in modern worker history has been the almost universal requiring of a degree costing 100 - 200 K or more, and is practically useless for application in the position in many, if not most cases, exempting medicine, law, architecture, obviously others, of course.

It is a scam to indenture workers with massive debt loads.

How does any degree help me be a more professional, safer commercial pilot?

The same people who wouldn’t consider working on a ramp for 6 months will willingly throw away 4 years and 200 K instead.

Don’t get it.

Once you are deep in debt they have you by the you know what’s.

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Re: Do you still need a 4 year degree for a US major

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rookiepilot wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 5:11 pm The single biggest scam in modern worker history has been the almost universal requiring of a degree costing 100 - 200 K or more, and is practically useless for application in the position in many, if not most cases, exempting medicine, law, architecture, obviously others, of course.

It is a scam to indenture workers with massive debt loads.

How does any degree help me be a more professional, safer commercial pilot?

The same people who wouldn’t consider working on a ramp for 6 months will willingly throw away 4 years and 200 K instead.

Don’t get it.

Once you are deep in debt they have you by the you know what’s.

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I agree. It is outright discrimination for the most part. I can understand giving a hiring benefit to someone with a degree related to aviation but only over someone else working in a non-aviation job. And probably not more than someone working the ramp at the same time. Someone working the ramp sees the incidents that happen and has that as previous aviation related experience.

I suspect the unrelated degree requirement in the US comes from other degree guys, either bitter that they had to waste 4 years of their life at university or arrogant in their thinking of how useful it is.

An aviation college education where the study focuses on aviation would have some meaning to me, as a general rule. A 4 year degree in a totally non-related area would be a detriment to me versus most aviation-related areas.
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