photofly wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 5:22 pm
khedrei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 4:47 pm
Even better, you can obtain an instrument rating without ever having been in a cloud, or low vis. AND (although highly unlikely) without ever having spoken to ATC. And you can also teach a bunch of people an IFR rating as well still without doing any of the above.
I think some IMC time should be required.
Aside from hurt feelz, is there evidence that accidents are occurring because of this perceived lack? If you want the government to add extra restrictions to flying, that would help.
I dont know if data for that is available anywhere. It would be tough to trace back loss of control IMC accidents to the amount of IFR in cloud training or how much time these flights actually spent in the clouds.
I was mainly pointing out the lack of requirements being surprising. You could use a similar argument for the lack of requirement of ATC communication. I dont think we have data on how many pilots lack radio communication skills.
To answer rookiepilot, I generally do more than half of those with my students, but not necessarily all of them. Some students have different goals and although I try to challenge everyone with real world conditions, I also try to give healthy knowledge of their limits.
I dont quite understand why one would do an approach at cruise speeds...?
I also don't even know how to update US customs on the arrival time other than on the phone. Only crossed a couple times and we were on time. Will ATC do it? Cause I tried it in Canada when I was late coming home and ATC said no. This motivated them to toss the plane when I did arrive..
I do like the list and think most are great to teach but not necessarily to everyone.
To your list I would add "approach to minimums which would just barely get us out of actual IMC, or not get us out and go land at a different airport."