Captains of the North, what make you stay?

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Re: Captains of the North, what make you stay?

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dhc# wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 4:58 pm
co-joe wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 4:41 pm Now factor in that you probably aren't getting hired OTS and have to live on Jazz pay for 4 years before getting the privilege of AC flat pay.
And though its an unknown variable, how could or should one factor in the next recession/economic downturn/pandemic...any of these could stunt earning potential for years... just look at the earnings so many lost due to being laid off during the pandemic. Northern/Arctic, medivacs and cargo ops all survived some even thrived during the pandemic while airlines laid off thousands.
That's a tough question to answer. Obviously having turbine multi pic in your log book means if you get laid off and have to go back to 703/4 you can go as a captain, but when you get to the regionals or the big show, seniority means you get rehired sooner or have less chance of being laid off. If Ac is your dream then you kind of have to take that plunge, and if Jazz calls first, take the financial hit and do it. But there are a few people that find what they're looking for out of life in the least likely town up north along the way.

Compare years of juniority at AC in YYZ, vs being on call 15 days a month but only flying 10 of them in a smaller town where life is simple, people are nice, real estate is affordable, you use a tank of gas ever 3 weeks, and you can afford a boat/ RV/ quad/ dirtbike, and have the time to play with them. I've met or worked with quite a few people in YLB, YWM, YQU, YZH, YPE, YMM, who found all they were looking for and never left. Those aren't exactly "up north" by some standards, but they're not the big city either.
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YC87DRVR wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:21 pm From my experience the majority of the northern lifers stay for many reasons, and most of the time it’s not financial and not by choice.
My experience has been the opposite. Many northern lifers I know never even applied to southern airlines. They stay for the lifestyle the north offers. That lifestyle doesn't appeal to everyone, so go to where makes you happy. We're all different.
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As many said, it's the lifestyle.

I'm in the bush after 2 streets corner, perfect for ski-doo and moto-cross. Hunting and fishing are good and close.
The word stress doesn't exist, you're 10-15 minutes late on your flight or anywhere? Well, no one cares. But it will be the same for your passengers :lol:
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Sometimes I consider moving up north or commuting for the lifestyle.. commuting just wastes so much time and money. But man the northern lifestyle works for me. Don't like being stuck within 2 hours of YYZ 😵‍💫
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Col. Panic wrote: Tue Apr 19, 2022 4:52 am 8E2FECDD-4FD8-4E5C-B825-A7CB1C927E31.jpeg
Another city boy confusing winterpeg with 'up north'.
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In my personal experience it's more so guy's and gal's just getting comfortable with where they are. (Meet someone up north, have a kid, buy the house and all the toys to go along with it). Also a lot of companies are now paying decent to keep Caps around. Pair that with a decent schedule and people are going to stay, not everyone's cup of pee but it is what it is.
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goldeneagle wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 3:10 pm
Col. Panic wrote: Tue Apr 19, 2022 4:52 am 8E2FECDD-4FD8-4E5C-B825-A7CB1C927E31.jpeg
Another city boy confusing winterpeg with 'up north'.
Sorry... I didn't make the meme; and they didn't have the equivalent for Gjoa Haven!
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People in the south.
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porcsord wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 12:05 pm Yup, I'll earn less where I am than at AC over my career, I've accepted that.

It also means I average 9 days of work a month, I'll be mortgage free before I'm 40, my commute to work is 7 minutes by car, 16 by mountain bike. I have a comfortable retirement setup, and to be honest, I just love my life and I'm very happy. I've worked over seas, made the big tax free bucks, but it turns out, money (passed a certain amount) doesn't make me more happy. My life outside of work does. And that's why I stay in the north.
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Redneck_pilot86 wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 2:30 pm People in the south.
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