Canada launches travel digital ID ( KTDI) pilot project.

[McKinley]

Links to the program here :

https://ktdi.org/

https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/canada/ca ... d%3D104059

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cnUAQKKnEAU

https://www.weforum.org/whitepapers/kno ... s-guidance


How do you feel about building trust with the World Economic Forum? How do you feel you’ll benefit from this program? Are you eager to participate ? How would you feel towards people who are opposed to this?

[WellThatAgedWell]

How it works. The system uses machine learning to build up a trust rating for each user, based on the number of times a trusted agent has verified that person’s info. Essentially, the more correct information you feed into the system, the more confident it becomes that you’re not a terrorist-in-waiting. That information can come in a variety of forms such as proof of education, citizenship records, vaccination records and bank statements. Previous border crossings also boost your trust rating for future ones.

It will only take a couple generations to normalize this. Kids born today will live in a completely different world where governments know magnitudes of information that citizens will willingly give up to save an hour crossing the border.

Maybe they will just make our lives very difficult with huge lines unless we comply. It will start with adding your passport to the app which seems benign, but like the article says if you want to be more trusted you divulge more information. Eventually your vaccines all get loaded, your credit card gets linked. You will have a paper trail in this app that will know you better than your own family knows you.

Seems creepy today, but I don't doubt this will just feel like normal life for future generations. Let the social credit system begin. Just remember those on this sub who believe in covid lockdown and mandatory vax for the greater good because they are the ones who vote to institute these systems. The ones who said "we are to dumb to make choices, we need gov to tell us what to do". Conspiracies will come true. Freedoms will be forfeited and replaced with a new "super safe society for the dumb and greater good"

[tango308]

Seems to be a knockoff of the the Chinese social credit system. Also only a matter of time before hackers gets their hands on "secured" personal information.

No thanks.

https://www.businessinsider.com/china-s ... ned-2018-4

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Credit_System

[Inverted2]

I believe it will happen. All the “conspiracy theories” from Covid became reality. (Vax passports, lockdowns, vax or lose your job etc). I feel bad for all the kids who are young and will have to live in this Orwellian nightmare. The chinese are already doing this so it will be here soon.

Remember, those sky high gas and diesel prices, fertilizer shortages they are talking about are precludes to much worse things to come. I’m predicting food shortages worldwide by next year. We will still have food here, if we can afford it!

It’s all planned.

[WellThatAgedWell]

Remember when photofly posted that lockdowns are good for the economy?

Here you are. Y'all can thank me later:
https://noahpinion.substack.com/p/yes-l ... -were-good

I guess lockdowns were great if you like inflation and supply chain disaster.

Like you say inverted, conspiracy theory's all coming true. Read through the post history and see who got it wrong.

"Inflation is transitionary"
"wear a mask for two weeks"

Definitely more to this than the common cold that has been going around for a couple years.

Oh yeah, Thanks Photofly... almost forgot

[McKinley]

So nobody sees “ seamless travel” and efficiency as beneficial?

What about “building trust” ? Is that not beneficial ?

Is the WEF a really this evil organization? They claim they stand for equality and making the world a better place.

The government has also coined theories on the WEF “ misinformation, disinformation, conspiracies, anti- science rhetoric and falsehoods.” Also, what do you make of these new words in our public discourse ?

[780Pilot]

How’s this really any different than a NEXUS card?

[WellThatAgedWell]

So nobody sees “ seamless travel” and efficiency as beneficial?

What about “building trust” ? Is that not beneficial ?

Is this system required to have seamless and efficient travel? Is our level of privacy today a hindrance to the efficiency of national security and our ability to process people through the border. Will this system be required for domestic travel?

I think this idea of building trust has been working backwards lately. Willing to bet people today trust the government much less than they did 3 years ago. Now I’m supposed to hand over all of my personal information, bank statements etc so I can travel or else I’ll be put in the long line for the rubber glove treatment?

[TG]

Now I’m supposed to hand over all of my personal information, bank statements etc so I can travel or else I’ll be put in the long line for the rubber glove treatment?

It's whatever terrorists, criminals, cyber criminals, people who thinks they are above law who are making our daily life more and more miserable so thanks them for that! And just thinking of what is already required to be able to log on some accounts makes me cringe: Passwords impossible to remember, Two-factor authentication (2FA) Biometrics things, etc...

So yes!

How’s this really any different than a NEXUS card?

I was going to ask the same.

[digits_]

Now I’m supposed to hand over all of my personal information, bank statements etc so I can travel or else I’ll be put in the long line for the rubber glove treatment?

It's whatever terrorists, criminals, cyber criminals, people who thinks they are above law who are making our daily life more and more miserable so thanks them for that! And just thinking of what is already required to be able to log on some accounts makes me cringe: Passwords impossible to remember, Two-factor authentication (2FA) Biometrics things, etc...

So yes!

How’s this really any different than a NEXUS card?

I was going to ask the same.

I'm perfectly happy having criminals or cyber criminals on my plane if that means privacy of the passengers is protected more. I'd be happy getting rid of all airport security as well.

I'm not entirely sure why you would need an extra system for seamless border crossing. International travellers generally own a passport. Whatever checks are happening at a customs/immigration point, could easily be done in advance as well.

[WANP]

If it was really about cleaning up the criminals, they would have started with politicians, police, csis members, and the like. The average person in Canada is NOT the problem.

[Aviatard]

I think this idea of building trust has been working backwards lately. Willing to bet people today trust the government much less than they did 3 years ago. Now I’m supposed to hand over all of my personal information, bank statements etc so I can travel or else I’ll be put in the long line for the rubber glove treatment?

Maybe. Or maybe it’s your lack of trust that makes you assume everyone thinks like you do. You are only 1.9 percent effective at spreading your ideas but keep at it and soon you’ll be over 2 percent.

[Bingo Fuel]

If this program is an issue for you, then feel free to vote with your wallet, and avoid giving any of the sponsoring partners your business.

[WellThatAgedWell]

If this program is an issue for you, then feel free to vote with your wallet, and avoid giving any of the sponsoring partners your business.

Can I stop paying taxes?

I'm surprised the gov wants to streamline travel. They don't seem to interested in KCM and show no interest in streamlining the RAIC program.

[ReserveTank]

...based on the number of times a trusted agent has verified that person’s info.

"trusted agent."

You'll have your info keyed in by an NGO-backed organization that is interested in you losing your Freedom of Mobility. This is the privatization of your basic freedoms. You can't travel because a purple-haired staunch BLM loyalist is going to enter some special data for you, blanco nino.

the more confident it becomes that you’re not a terrorist-in-waiting

Remember fellow Canadians, you're all terrorists until our private panel decides that you're not.

All normal. nothing wrong.

[Bingo Fuel]

You'll have your info keyed in by an NGO-backed organization that is interested in you losing your Freedom of Mobility. This is the privatization of your basic freedoms. You can't travel because a purple-haired staunch BLM loyalist is going to enter some special data for you, blanco nino.

What does any of this have to do BLM? Are they sponsoring the program?

I don't see them listed anywhere. Air Canada and KLM are, though.

[JHR]

"1984" was required reading when I was in high school. Its a shame that it no longer is....probably by design

[goldeneagle]

So the person with an RAIC on the lanyard, drivers license and nexus cards in the wallet, SIN card in the drawer at home, passport booklet in the left breast pocket and a pilot license booklet in the right breast pocket is all up in the air because 'I dont want guvmint to know anything about me'. Yup, that makes a lot of sense.

Wind them all together into a single digital id, a very appealing concept to me.

[ReserveTank]

You'll have your info keyed in by an NGO-backed organization that is interested in you losing your Freedom of Mobility. This is the privatization of your basic freedoms. You can't travel because a purple-haired staunch BLM loyalist is going to enter some special data for you, blanco nino.

What does any of this have to do BLM? Are they sponsoring the program?

I don't see them listed anywhere. Air Canada and KLM are, though.

Nothing at all, just the loyalist that enters your data.

[digits_]

So the person with an RAIC on the lanyard, drivers license and nexus cards in the wallet, SIN card in the drawer at home, passport booklet in the left breast pocket and a pilot license booklet in the right breast pocket is all up in the air because 'I dont want guvmint to know anything about me'. Yup, that makes a lot of sense.

Wind them all together into a single digital id, a very appealing concept to me.

Well, the only thing that's optional there is the nexus card. Everything else you require to do your job. I don't like the RAIC process or that you need a passport for travelling, that doesn't mean I didn't apply to get them, to do my job.

And it makes perfect sense we don't want yet another thing added that will be of no benefit to us.