For a new hire looking to upgrade ASAP in YVR or YYC which aircraft would be quickest?
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I would guess the Q. There's a lot of Q out west.
But as far as I know, YVR is more senior than YYC
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How about out east.. if someone was looking for YUL base and had the choice between RJ and Q4 in ground school. Fastest upgrades, or going up in seniority quicker.. one type with more multi day pairings if someone will be commuting?
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I'd choose the RJ, but there's a lot of Q alsosuperbilly24 wrote: ↑Mon May 16, 2022 6:28 am How about out east.. if someone was looking for YUL base and had the choice between RJ and Q4 in ground school. Fastest upgrades, or going up in seniority quicker.. one type with more multi day pairings if someone will be commuting?
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That is for operational integrity, which as the email said, the union is getting involved because the amount of training-related grievances is increasing.CPT.HarshColdReality wrote: ↑Sun May 15, 2022 9:08 pm Huh but this is ongoing now.... Been on bypass pay since November 2021... Loads of junior guys are upgrading ahead of me with my course date in September
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That was a leftover from a COVID era LOU affecting the training plan for Bid 2021-01. Will not apply going forward as all of those COVID LOU’s are now expired.CPT.HarshColdReality wrote: ↑Sun May 15, 2022 9:08 pm Huh but this is ongoing now.... Been on bypass pay since November 2021... Loads of junior guys are upgrading ahead of me with my course date in September
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YYC is more senior than YVR.
Q400 in YYC will be fastest, the RJ has been continually shrinking
RJ in YVR is junior compared to the Q400 so RJ is possibly faster than the Q.
Out East the RJ has a much larger roster in YYZ than Q400 and similar to YUL.
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Crazy, I would have thought yvr RJ was pretty senior.KenoraPilot wrote: ↑Mon May 16, 2022 9:09 pmYYC is more senior than YVR.
Q400 in YYC will be fastest, the RJ has been continually shrinking
RJ in YVR is junior compared to the Q400 so RJ is possibly faster than the Q.
Out East the RJ has a much larger roster in YYZ than Q400 and similar to YUL.
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Why's that?link821 wrote: ↑Mon May 16, 2022 9:11 pmCrazy, I would have thought yvr RJ was pretty senior.KenoraPilot wrote: ↑Mon May 16, 2022 9:09 pmYYC is more senior than YVR.
Q400 in YYC will be fastest, the RJ has been continually shrinking
RJ in YVR is junior compared to the Q400 so RJ is possibly faster than the Q.
Out East the RJ has a much larger roster in YYZ than Q400 and similar to YUL.
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Just a wrong assumption I guess.PostmasterGeneral wrote: ↑Tue May 17, 2022 6:39 amWhy's that?link821 wrote: ↑Mon May 16, 2022 9:11 pmCrazy, I would have thought yvr RJ was pretty senior.KenoraPilot wrote: ↑Mon May 16, 2022 9:09 pm
YYC is more senior than YVR.
Q400 in YYC will be fastest, the RJ has been continually shrinking
RJ in YVR is junior compared to the Q400 so RJ is possibly faster than the Q.
Out East the RJ has a much larger roster in YYZ than Q400 and similar to YUL.
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I am not sure what you would offered at the interview…
Under current terms of the CBA, a new-hire pilot cannot be offered a specific Position (Base/Equipment/Status) until:
1. They are an employee (on payroll)
2. They are on course (PIT)
3. They have been assigned a seniority number at Jazz (see 1. and 2.)
4. No other more senior Jazz pilot who is qualified and not frozen has bid for that Position
Bring good questions to the interview.
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I scoff at your left seat compensation numbers. All 705 Captains show up to a fully fuelled, fully loaded aircraft, with a flight plan filed. That's how Type A dispatch works.Admiral Benson wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 3:44 am ...
Jazz has absolutely no justification for their awful FO pay, especially in years 1-5. But people who scoff at the left seat compensation numbers are retarded. Considering you show up to a fully fuelled fully loaded fully filed aircraft and away you go.
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Your Captain wages are embarrassing to our profession.
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109 vacant CA positions (looking out 12 months). Almost all YYZ based. 81 YYZ CRJ CA.
Some of these will be filled over time through internal bidding.
Not sure what Jazz has planned externally. These would be jet DEC positions. New plane (for all but a Voyageur pilot). New operator. New SOP.
Will be a challenge for anyone without a strong technical background and meaningful command experience in either corporate or 705 world.
And then there is the starting pay…… less than many 703/704 CA.
Good luck to all applicants.
Some of these will be filled over time through internal bidding.
Not sure what Jazz has planned externally. These would be jet DEC positions. New plane (for all but a Voyageur pilot). New operator. New SOP.
Will be a challenge for anyone without a strong technical background and meaningful command experience in either corporate or 705 world.
And then there is the starting pay…… less than many 703/704 CA.
Good luck to all applicants.
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Hello
I have been reading the posts here for a while. I wonder what life is for a Junior Captain based in YYZ now, in July 2022? Do they fly a lot while in Reserve? How hard it is to commute? What is the net monthly pay? Are there benefits you can opt-out to get better net pay? I know the starting salary by CBA is 84.89. I have seen the paystub somebody posted but it was for half the month and didn´t include any overtime or Per Diems (which I know are not really part of the income, etc).
And I also know this all depends on what the company decides, if there is a bad recession, more lockdowns, or if the war in Europe goes nuclear or the energy crisis gets worst, etc.
I know that for a DEC that picture could last for a few years as other people with more seniority gets upgrades. I just wonder what life for a Junior Captain is like right now.
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Toto
I have been reading the posts here for a while. I wonder what life is for a Junior Captain based in YYZ now, in July 2022? Do they fly a lot while in Reserve? How hard it is to commute? What is the net monthly pay? Are there benefits you can opt-out to get better net pay? I know the starting salary by CBA is 84.89. I have seen the paystub somebody posted but it was for half the month and didn´t include any overtime or Per Diems (which I know are not really part of the income, etc).
And I also know this all depends on what the company decides, if there is a bad recession, more lockdowns, or if the war in Europe goes nuclear or the energy crisis gets worst, etc.
I know that for a DEC that picture could last for a few years as other people with more seniority gets upgrades. I just wonder what life for a Junior Captain is like right now.
Feel free to PM
Thanks
Toto
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From the information I'm hearing thru the grapevine the DEC is on hold for now. Jazz management walked away from the table when they wouldn't agree to the terms Alpa proposed.
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Not true.flyer 1492 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:45 pm From the information I'm hearing thru the grapevine the DEC is on hold for now. Jazz management walked away from the table when they wouldn't agree to the terms Alpa proposed.
They had captain seat available for the last ground school. They just have no idea how to make it work yet.
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Same thing. There is a CBA. There are rules. Either reach an accommodation or live with current language.RegionalPilot wrote: ↑Tue Jul 19, 2022 2:34 pmNot true.flyer 1492 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:45 pm From the information I'm hearing thru the grapevine the DEC is on hold for now. Jazz management walked away from the table when they wouldn't agree to the terms Alpa proposed.
They had captain seat available for the last ground school. They just have no idea how to make it work yet.
Nothing in life is free.
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There are 5 DEC showing as being assigned on the latest Pilot Position List. They are all from the most recent initial course.
This should be interesting.
This should be interesting.
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