Mainline hiring

[flyer 1492]

mainline does not have a pilot base in YYC

[flyer 1492]

Jazz has a pilot base in YYC not mainline.

[Tbayer2021]

mainline does not have a pilot base in YYC

You do realize this is a WestJet forum, right? WestJet doe indeed have a YYC base and its the most senior one.

[rooster]

mainline does not have a pilot base in YYC

What are you smoking?!

[chris.y]

Hello,

Question about new hire getting yyz base, how long will it take approximately to get yvr or yyc transfer ? Thx

Pretty quick with the current trend, I'd bet less than a year easily. Pretty sure YVR is only a little more junior than YYC so expect that first.
Though with anything and everything, things do change.

Woaw I was really expecting you to say around 2-4 years for base transfer.
Reserve time and upgrades are the same time as 2019 or with the current trend it’s better ?
6-8 years reserve and >10 years for upgrade ?
Thank you

[Canadaflyer46]

Hello,

Question about new hire getting yyz base, how long will it take approximately to get yvr or yyc transfer ? Thx

Pretty quick with the current trend, I'd bet less than a year easily. Pretty sure YVR is only a little more junior than YYC so expect that first.
Though with anything and everything, things do change.

Woaw I was really expecting you to say around 2-4 years for base transfer.
Reserve time and upgrades are the same time as 2019 or with the current trend it’s better ?
6-8 years reserve and >10 years for upgrade ?
Thank you

Depends on the base. YYZ is the junior base, it's currently around 5 years seniority to be off reserve. In YYC it's around 7 years to be off reserve. Upgrades currently at 9 years for YYZ. Must be the slowest narrowbody upgrade in North America.

[Inverted2]

Pretty quick with the current trend, I'd bet less than a year easily. Pretty sure YVR is only a little more junior than YYC so expect that first.
Though with anything and everything, things do change.

Woaw I was really expecting you to say around 2-4 years for base transfer.
Reserve time and upgrades are the same time as 2019 or with the current trend it’s better ?
6-8 years reserve and >10 years for upgrade ?
Thank you

Depends on the base. YYZ is the junior base, it's currently around 5 years seniority to be off reserve. In YYC it's around 7 years to be off reserve. Upgrades currently at 9 years for YYZ. Must be the slowest narrowbody upgrade in North America.

Question: if it takes 9 years to upgrade do you go to year 9 captain pay or start all over at 1?

[Canadaflyer46]

Woaw I was really expecting you to say around 2-4 years for base transfer.
Reserve time and upgrades are the same time as 2019 or with the current trend it’s better ?
6-8 years reserve and >10 years for upgrade ?
Thank you

Depends on the base. YYZ is the junior base, it's currently around 5 years seniority to be off reserve. In YYC it's around 7 years to be off reserve. Upgrades currently at 9 years for YYZ. Must be the slowest narrowbody upgrade in North America.

Question: if it takes 9 years to upgrade do you go to year 9 captain pay or start all over at 1?

Year 9.

[IOV747]

HELP NEEDED.

Looking for some advice here, specially if there is someone from WJ here. Would you recommend going WJ mainline right now? Is there a good future there rn? Are people within happy?
Would you guys recommend Jazz or Cargojet instead?

Thanks!

[cjet]

The job is good but there are some huge drawbacks. Mostly to do with upgrades. I'm just guessing here but upgrades for new hires are 15 plus years away. A new hire is at the bottom of our senioroty list of curently at 2200 pilots. LOts of retirements to go before you'll get an upgrade. LIfe in the right seat is good though. Good sked and the money is OK. I would say AC is the place to be but WJ would be a good spot to wait until hey call.

CJET

[FL030]

I'd say go to Jazz since over the next few years most of the hiring at Air Canada will come from Jazz and not WestJet.

[Nick678]

Anywhere is faster to AC than Jazz.

On the seniority list they are interviewing around the 800 mark with a total pilot count around 1600. They delayed all flow till the fall and talking about a PML to slow it down even further.

The only thing you’ll get from going to Jazz is financial trouble.

[Canadaflyer46]

WJ you'll be YYZ based and on reserve for at least half a decade, and an upgrade will take....well, forget about an upgrade. But 15+ years would be an optimistic outlook unless you're happy to take a pay cut from the right seat to take the left seat at Swoop. I'd take Jazz over WJ personally. I'm sure it won't take more than a few years to work your way up the seniority list and get a lifestyle that works for you. Plus a good shot at AC, even if that does take 3 or 4 years.

[702pipeliner]

WJ you'll be YYZ based and on reserve for at least half a decade, and an upgrade will take....well, forget about an upgrade. But 15+ years would be an optimistic outlook unless you're happy to take a pay cut from the right seat to take the left seat at Swoop. I'd take Jazz over WJ personally. I'm sure it won't take more than a few years to work your way up the seniority list and get a lifestyle that works for you. Plus a good shot at AC, even if that does take 3 or 4 years.

Don't think it will take that long. Know of guys at jazz turning down captain seats cause mainline is calling. Interesting market

[hithere]

There is no requirement to turn down a left seat at Jazz because AC has called you for an interview. Jazz knows exactly who is going for AC interviews and who is getting hired there. You are free to bid a left seat in the meantime and will be paid Captain bypass pay if Jazz decides not to do your upgrade training because you are going soon to AC

[pitottubey]

jeez are there any good options for someone who wants to live in Calgary?? both Jazz and WJ sound like shit

[fixnfly]

jeez are there any good options for someone who wants to live in Calgary?? both Jazz and WJ sound like shit

If you want, take a risk and joining lynx. If they survive and do well, you could see yourself in the top 10% of the seniority list in five years from now. Could be a really decent gig with mostly single day pairings. I had a friend that joined flair in their early days when it was a risky start up and now he’s in the top 20 of this seniority list out of 250 pilots

[Roundel Randy]

jeez are there any good options for someone who wants to live in Calgary?? both Jazz and WJ sound like shit

I'm surprised AC still hasn't established a base out of Calgary yet.

[fish4life]

jeez are there any good options for someone who wants to live in Calgary?? both Jazz and WJ sound like shit

I'm surprised AC still hasn't established a base out of Calgary yet.

Opening or closing bases is very expensive with all the training events it creates

[Roundel Randy]

jeez are there any good options for someone who wants to live in Calgary?? both Jazz and WJ sound like shit

I'm surprised AC still hasn't established a base out of Calgary yet.

Opening or closing bases is very expensive with all the training events it creates

What about having a port so you can start and end your pairings in a certain city like Calgary or Edmonton?

[fish4life]

I'm surprised AC still hasn't established a base out of Calgary yet.

Opening or closing bases is very expensive with all the training events it creates

What about having a port so you can start and end your pairings in a certain city like Calgary or Edmonton?

I don’t work there so no clue how that would work just sharing what I saw in the news about them shifting out west

[goingmissed]

What about having a port so you can start and end your pairings in a certain city like Calgary or Edmonton?

The company seems unwilling to consider the lives of it's employees. Feels like we're all just things to be used and replaced as necessary.

[tbaylx]

jeez are there any good options for someone who wants to live in Calgary?? both Jazz and WJ sound like shit

Flair will be opening a YYC base spring '23

[goingmissed]

jeez are there any good options for someone who wants to live in Calgary?? both Jazz and WJ sound like shit

Flair will be opening a YYC base spring '23

Really trying to entice those Encore pilots, eh?

Seems that WestJet management is already handing you the entire Encore pilot group on a silver platter.

[kiaszceski]

Lol, Flair's chief pilot posting on Westjet forum, that's funny